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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
Him turning out to be Tarrlok's bro I dunno. If executed differently I would be okay with it. I guess I mostly just dont like his other decisions... like deciding to use that water tornado when he got knocked into the water, thus revealing everything. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On July 01 2012 07:09 ore0z wrote: The Avatar state and the chakras were never mentioned in A:LoK. I can understand most people's being confused because it was never suggested. The idea that the series followed Korra releasing her chakras was never hinted on, or explained, so its still just an idea that doesn't have any support. Symbolism is dead, it seems. | ||
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ore0z
Romania161 Posts
Can you call it symbolism when there's no proof to support it? Where in LoK do they mention it? If someone was watching TLoK without watching ATLAB, do you think they'd understand the seven chakras? If you didn't read the that "Korra's chakra being unlocked" on reddit, would you have understood it? Was it apparent to a majority of fans that Korra was unlocking her chakra without that thread? I could very well claim a number of symbolism, parallels, or foreshadowing, no matter how ridiculous, if I didn't need any proof to support my claim. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Like, required reading at my school for 11-12 year olds was 1984 and animal farm. Sure we didn't grasp all of it but we weren't like suddenly turned into demon children because we had to deal with some adult themes. We learn about the holocaust and WWII in like what, 5th grade? That's 9-10 year olds learning about the systematic and brutal extermination of millions of people over differences like religion and ethnicity. I think you could make LoK a tiny bit more mature and survive. On June 30 2012 20:10 Skilledblob wrote: Of the Korean variety, SO many, yes. Idk what you mean by cheap but cheesy and predictable for sure.Xenocide has seen too many cheap dramas EDIT: ok after re-reading my suggested alternate ending, it was pretty poor yes. I pretty much just started ranting because I was so disappointed in the finale. All I'm saying is, they started to build such interesting conflicts and then in the last 3 episodes, just resolve everything so fast and unsatisfyingly. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On July 01 2012 21:37 Skilledblob wrote: I know what you mean but that doesnt have to lead to every character going emo and killing each other It seems like the most reasonable result when half the population has godlike powers while the other half doesn't even have firearms. | ||
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
Korra also probably still has a long way to go before she masters airbending or the Avatar state. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
Even HE takes worse falls. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
And Asami > Korra | ||
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Alick
Bulgaria10 Posts
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
On July 01 2012 16:41 ore0z wrote: Can you call it symbolism when there's no proof to support it? Where in LoK do they mention it? If someone was watching TLoK without watching ATLAB, do you think they'd understand the seven chakras? If you didn't read the that "Korra's chakra being unlocked" on reddit, would you have understood it? Was it apparent to a majority of fans that Korra was unlocking her chakra without that thread? I could very well claim a number of symbolism, parallels, or foreshadowing, no matter how ridiculous, if I didn't need any proof to support my claim. Yes. Yes you can. Most definitely. Symbolism does not mean what you think it does apparently - the events symbolize the chakras - the events did not necessarily unlock her chakras by any means, but the events themselves symbolize the paths to open chakras (or at least some could interpret them as so) and it is all about the interpretation, not proof. And about the "some people may have not understood it" well that is the nature of writing in such a fashion. For most people who write anything above picture books (and perhaps even those that make picture books) adding in symbolism, foreshadowing, etc etc is supposed to put the reader in awe and make them enjoy the story that much more and there are always (read ALWAYS) scenarios where readers read something the author did not intend and guess what, proof or no proof, it is still welcome (in most circumstances). If you don't think it's possible to form theories about the progression of stories without facts to prove/disprove them (the theories) then you should go and read A Song of Ice and Fire and then read some of the theories they have created based on mere symbolism. | ||
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ore0z
Romania161 Posts
I might have worded it badly. But this is my issue. Its just a theory. To knock people down for "not being able to understand it" but knowing full well its just a theory and very well could be something the author did not intend is poor. Talking about the ideas is fine and I have no problem with it. | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
On July 03 2012 11:43 ore0z wrote: "Some people may have not understood it" and "people reading into something that is not there (or that the author did not intend)" I might have worded it badly. But this is my issue. Its just a theory. To knock people down for "not being able to understand it" but knowing full well its just a theory and very well could be something the author did not intend is poor. Talking about the ideas is fine and I have no problem with it. This post seems contradictory? "But this is my issue. Its just a theory." "Talking about the ideas is fine and I have no problem with it." And no one is knocking people down (I am confused at you saying this, perhaps I missed something earlier in the thread). | ||
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ore0z
Romania161 Posts
"But this is my issue. Its just a theory" is in context to it being used as fact. Edit: got rid of a word | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
It just turned out to be not that good. | ||
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Funguuuuu
United States198 Posts
On July 03 2012 13:37 Zergneedsfood wrote: Well, the point of Korra is that it was supposed to be a standalone so that even if you didn't watch the original Avatar you could enjoy it. At least that was the creator's intention at one point. It just turned out to be not that good. It is standalone, you can enjoy it without seeing ATLA, but with its nature of being a sequel series many people (particularly the die-hard fans of the original series) would be angry if the creators didn't put in references to the original series. As to your second point, I personally thought it was very good, with a much better story then the original series, but different people like different stuff I suppose. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Honestly, things move a bit too fast in this show. | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
On July 03 2012 14:04 Lightwip wrote: The episodes need to be stretched out longer, like DBZ. Honestly, things move a bit too fast in this show. I really think this was the biggest flaw, it feels like they were limited too much in the # of episodes, but I'd be lying if I said the I didn't enjoy the show even with what I felt were flaws and I'm still eagerly waiting for the next season. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On July 03 2012 14:44 Sprungjeezy wrote: I really think this was the biggest flaw, it feels like they were limited too much in the # of episodes, but I'd be lying if I said the I didn't enjoy the show even with what I felt were flaws and I'm still eagerly waiting for the next season. Shows have proven to be complicated and compelling with only 12 episodes. The fault of Korra isn't with length restrictions and more on the part of just writing problems and pacing issues. If anyone's watched the anime Angel Beats, that's pretty much what it is. Decent premise, weighed down by poor pacing, poor writing, characters that you could rarely relate to, while a bunch of other characters got underdeveloped. Korra's only reasonable claim to fame are ironically its cast that related back to the original and Amon whose character got shafted and his revolution completely ignored. On July 03 2012 13:45 Funguuuuu wrote: It is standalone, you can enjoy it without seeing ATLA, but with its nature of being a sequel series many people (particularly the die-hard fans of the original series) would be angry if the creators didn't put in references to the original series. As to your second point, I personally thought it was very good, with a much better story then the original series, but different people like different stuff I suppose. The story itself was pretty poorly constructed. The Equalist revolution lives in a vacuum and exists solely for the purpose of existing for a plot. There's no real meat and depth to the revolution, nor is there any depth given to anything else in this story. It's simplistic good guy versus bad guy. | ||
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