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Onioncookie
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 23:53:32
June 26 2012 23:19 GMT
#2861
Okay Guys ... did anyone LOVE all the animation in this series?!

Hell , i still cant believe how well this is done , the guy who did this needs some trophys and stuff right know imo


Edit: Just watched this again and DAMNNNNN that stuff is sooo sexy

Funguuuuu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 00:03:13
June 27 2012 00:02 GMT
#2862
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2012 08:07 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Hello, me again.

Here's what I was hoping: that Amon was actually a regular human and/or he was in touch with the spirit world and that's how he could remove bending. The fact that he ended up being a fraud was dismissive of his message of the oppression at the hands of benders (which was exploited, yet valid enough to explore).

Other things that we're "resolved" too quickly:

- as stated by you guys earlier: conservation of ninjutsu. The super-skilled Equalists turned into beatable goons in the blink of an eye after spending over half of the season emphasizing their dominance
- Too much Mako-drama, not enough other Team Avatar members
- after having no spiritual connections whatsoever, Aang reveals himself to Korra with 3 minutes left in the season
- she could suddenly airbend with 10 minutes left in the season, but Amon took her bending away just before... >_>
- Amon could have just swam, or bended, to the surface of the water, but instead reveals himself as a fraud by propelling himself out with a fucking whirlpool. Because, why?
- Amon used advanced bloodbending to remove bending permanently, but it's never even remotely explained how!


The super-skilled Equalists turned into beatable goons in the blink of an eye after spending over half of the season emphasizing their dominance

This can be attributed to korra and her allies learning how to better fight them, because of the practice gained from battling them quite often. Korra also probably gained real-life combat experience against them during her brief stint on tarrlock's task force (assuming she did more missions then the one that was shown).

after having no spiritual connections whatsoever, Aang reveals himself to Korra with 3 minutes left in the season

Many people attribute this to Korra having thoughts of suicide while standing on the cliff ,which would be her "lowest point" as mentioned by Aang. In choosing to live, she accepted herself as who she was, not as just Korra the Avatar, which let her connect with her spiritual self.

- she could suddenly airbend with 10 minutes left in the season, but Amon took her bending away just before... >_>

Amon probably couldn't remove bending that she could not do. She probably forced herself subconciously to airbend out of desperation (as evidenced by her poor air bending form)
- Amon could have just swam, or bended, to the surface of the water, but instead reveals himself as a fraud by propelling himself out with a fucking whirlpool. Because, why?

It made it very clear that Amon was drowning (as evidenced by his gasping for breath once he leaves the water) so you can't fault him for not thinking clearly. Also, how was he to know there was a huge crowd on the shoreline?

- Amon used advanced bloodbending to remove bending permanently, but it's never even remotely explained how!
I don't see why this is such a big deal. It was never explained why combustion man could create explosions with his mind, but no one seemed to mind.
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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
June 27 2012 00:06 GMT
#2863
On June 27 2012 09:02 Funguuuuu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2012 08:07 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Hello, me again.

Here's what I was hoping: that Amon was actually a regular human and/or he was in touch with the spirit world and that's how he could remove bending. The fact that he ended up being a fraud was dismissive of his message of the oppression at the hands of benders (which was exploited, yet valid enough to explore).

Other things that we're "resolved" too quickly:

- as stated by you guys earlier: conservation of ninjutsu. The super-skilled Equalists turned into beatable goons in the blink of an eye after spending over half of the season emphasizing their dominance
- Too much Mako-drama, not enough other Team Avatar members
- after having no spiritual connections whatsoever, Aang reveals himself to Korra with 3 minutes left in the season
- she could suddenly airbend with 10 minutes left in the season, but Amon took her bending away just before... >_>
- Amon could have just swam, or bended, to the surface of the water, but instead reveals himself as a fraud by propelling himself out with a fucking whirlpool. Because, why?
- Amon used advanced bloodbending to remove bending permanently, but it's never even remotely explained how!


Show nested quote +
The super-skilled Equalists turned into beatable goons in the blink of an eye after spending over half of the season emphasizing their dominance

This can be attributed to korra and her allies learning how to better fight them, because of the practice gained from battling them quite often. Korra also probably gained real-life combat experience against them during her brief stint on tarrlock's task force (assuming she did more missions then the one that was shown).

Show nested quote +
after having no spiritual connections whatsoever, Aang reveals himself to Korra with 3 minutes left in the season

Many people attribute this to Korra having thoughts of suicide while standing on the cliff ,which would be her "lowest point" as mentioned by Aang. In choosing to live, she accepted herself as who she was, not as just Korra the Avatar, which let her connect with her spiritual self.

Show nested quote +
- she could suddenly airbend with 10 minutes left in the season, but Amon took her bending away just before... >_>

Amon probably couldn't remove bending that she could not do. She probably forced herself subconciously to airbend out of desperation (as evidenced by her poor air bending form)
Show nested quote +
- Amon could have just swam, or bended, to the surface of the water, but instead reveals himself as a fraud by propelling himself out with a fucking whirlpool. Because, why?

It made it very clear that Amon was drowning (as evidenced by his gasping for breath once he leaves the water) so you can't fault him for not thinking clearly. Also, how was he to know there was a huge crowd on the shoreline?

Show nested quote +
- Amon used advanced bloodbending to remove bending permanently, but it's never even remotely explained how!
I don't see why this is such a big deal. It was never explained why combustion man could create explosions with his mind, but no one seemed to mind.

Combustion man wasn't the main villain of the series though. They had an entire season focusing on Amon. Hopefully it's explained next season.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
June 27 2012 00:08 GMT
#2864
On June 27 2012 08:07 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
- she could suddenly airbend with 10 minutes left in the season, but Amon took her bending away just before... >_>

I suspect this is something to do with Amon blocking her fire/earth/water bending (only, because that's all she's used till that point) but because of that she's forced to develop her air bending in such a short space of time because she can't cheat with the others...or something to that effect.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 27 2012 00:28 GMT
#2865
On June 27 2012 09:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 08:07 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
- she could suddenly airbend with 10 minutes left in the season, but Amon took her bending away just before... >_>

I suspect this is something to do with Amon blocking her fire/earth/water bending (only, because that's all she's used till that point) but because of that she's forced to develop her air bending in such a short space of time because she can't cheat with the others...or something to that effect.


Yes, the audience is force to simply assume this =/

Here's my interpretation of it though: "Deus Ex Machina"

It looked great and heightened emotion in the scene greatly though, so even though I think plot-wise it doesn't make a lot of sense, pacing wise it had me go "Oh shi-" and grin.

What it feels like a lot of LoK did though. It didn't explain a lot or really go deeper into issues in order to keep drama fairly high throughout. I mean, there's not an episode in LoK where some serious shit didn't go down. By the same token, you can discount about half of TLA episodes, or parts therein, where the aim isn't to keep drama high.

I think I prefer this pacing, especially given it's a 12 episode season, even though we're left to fill in a lot of blanks.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
June 27 2012 00:31 GMT
#2866
We cannot simply assume it was a deus ex machina until we watch season 2. Who knows, they could go into great depth about the whole 'bloodbending taking away powers' as well as Korra's Avatar state thing. Not exactly an obvious cliffhanger but I still look forward to it.

I'd say the giant turtle lion at the end of TLAB was a bigger deus ex machina than this.
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Quenchiest
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada286 Posts
June 27 2012 00:47 GMT
#2867
On June 27 2012 09:02 Funguuuuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Amon could have just swam, or bended, to the surface of the water, but instead reveals himself as a fraud by propelling himself out with a fucking whirlpool. Because, why?

It made it very clear that Amon was drowning (as evidenced by his gasping for breath once he leaves the water) so you can't fault him for not thinking clearly. Also, how was he to know there was a huge crowd on the shoreline?


This is actually one of the bigger problems I had with the finale. I understand why they had to do it (12 episodes, not sure of second season) but he was a water bender. He could have got himself out of the situation without revealing himself and returned later.

Honestly I just feel like there wasn't enough episodes. 12 was far too short, especially compared to the 20 a season we got with ATLA.
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
June 27 2012 00:51 GMT
#2868
On June 27 2012 08:07 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
- Amon used advanced bloodbending to remove bending permanently, but it's never even remotely explained how!

It didn't really need to be explained imo, because:

1) Nobody else new how, so the only way it would be it would be explained would be some bs "bad guy lost so he has to give up all his secrets" moment, and

2) Once you know he uses blood-bending to do it, you don't know the specifics because that would be really complicated, but that's enough to basically understand it. Think about it, someone who can control all the blood in your body could find a way to block a section of your brain that helps with bending for instance. Maybe he could even mess with your "chakra" or something, but the point is he's such a skilled blood bender he can control people more than others understand.
ore0z
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania161 Posts
June 27 2012 00:59 GMT
#2869
On June 27 2012 09:28 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 09:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
On June 27 2012 08:07 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
- she could suddenly airbend with 10 minutes left in the season, but Amon took her bending away just before... >_>

I suspect this is something to do with Amon blocking her fire/earth/water bending (only, because that's all she's used till that point) but because of that she's forced to develop her air bending in such a short space of time because she can't cheat with the others...or something to that effect.


Yes, the audience is force to simply assume this =/

Here's my interpretation of it though: "Deus Ex Machina"

Amon never removed an airbender's powers and Korra was the first.
How I took it was that Amon took away the "physical side" of bending, and because airbending was more spiritual, could not really take it away.
If he had taken away Tenzin's powers, theres a chance he might not be successful.
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
June 27 2012 01:10 GMT
#2870
On June 27 2012 09:59 ore0z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 09:28 bittman wrote:
On June 27 2012 09:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
On June 27 2012 08:07 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
- she could suddenly airbend with 10 minutes left in the season, but Amon took her bending away just before... >_>

I suspect this is something to do with Amon blocking her fire/earth/water bending (only, because that's all she's used till that point) but because of that she's forced to develop her air bending in such a short space of time because she can't cheat with the others...or something to that effect.


Yes, the audience is force to simply assume this =/

Here's my interpretation of it though: "Deus Ex Machina"

Amon never removed an airbender's powers and Korra was the first.
How I took it was that Amon took away the "physical side" of bending, and because airbending was more spiritual, could not really take it away.
If he had taken away Tenzin's powers, theres a chance he might not be successful.

Another possible explanation is that he blocks their chakras, or whatever ties the bender to it's bending, and since Korra never airbended before her airbending wasn't blocked out when he took away the other forms of bending.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
June 27 2012 02:59 GMT
#2871
On June 27 2012 08:19 Onioncookie wrote:
Okay Guys ... did anyone LOVE all the animation in this series?!

Hell , i still cant believe how well this is done , the guy who did this needs some trophys and stuff right know imo


Edit: Just watched this again and DAMNNNNN that stuff is sooo sexy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdKuJ75MMqs&feature=related


I saw this too! I was surprised I couldn't find a good compilation for a long time (if there was even one). Even this video is missing a lot (it shows many fight scenes but doesn't even include all of it)

The animation is so fucking epic. I way prefer this higher quality animation over seeing bigger bending. It makes it more realistic too. The lieutenant may get lose often (well pretty much all the time) but he doesn't actually get owned. I mean, look at how boss he is, jumping and flipping around like that. And he runs like those pro ninjas, rofl. So epic.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 27 2012 03:38 GMT
#2872
On June 26 2012 19:03 Firebolt145 wrote:
So I spend the last 48 hours (or so) watching all 3 seasons of TLAB.

Holy fuck I had forgotten how amazing the bending was there. Waves of ice crushing down opponents, circles of fire splitting into multiple fireballs heading in different directions, mountains of dirt and earthquakes, tornadoes and gusts of air to harden molden lava...

I want some of that stuff in TLK. Most of TLK so far is measly small projectile bending atm. Has bending really deteriorated that much in the last 50-60 years?


I'm going to roughly paraphrase the creators. They did some AM I'm too tired to find now that I heard from reddit.

It was on purpose. Most of the main benders in the show we probender that fought in a certain stylized way. In probending there were always other rules and restrictions to take into account. Outside of the ring, that wasn't the case. It's like asking a boxer to fight a streetfighter.


On a personal note, that's why it made Tenzin and Lin look so baller when the wrecked shit. Well, that and the novelty of their bending.
Escavalier
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada62 Posts
June 27 2012 03:48 GMT
#2873
Could Amon take away airbending if he wanted to? Keep in mind that there are only four airbenders in the entire world (not counting Korra), so Amon has clearly never practiced or attempted it before. Hell, he's probably never even fought an airbender before Korra kicked his ass in the season finale.
Mellowman
Profile Joined May 2012
30 Posts
June 27 2012 03:48 GMT
#2874
On June 27 2012 12:38 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 19:03 Firebolt145 wrote:
So I spend the last 48 hours (or so) watching all 3 seasons of TLAB.

Holy fuck I had forgotten how amazing the bending was there. Waves of ice crushing down opponents, circles of fire splitting into multiple fireballs heading in different directions, mountains of dirt and earthquakes, tornadoes and gusts of air to harden molden lava...

I want some of that stuff in TLK. Most of TLK so far is measly small projectile bending atm. Has bending really deteriorated that much in the last 50-60 years?


I'm going to roughly paraphrase the creators. They did some AM I'm too tired to find now that I heard from reddit.

It was on purpose. Most of the main benders in the show we probender that fought in a certain stylized way. In probending there were always other rules and restrictions to take into account. Outside of the ring, that wasn't the case. It's like asking a boxer to fight a streetfighter.


On a personal note, that's why it made Tenzin and Lin look so baller when the wrecked shit. Well, that and the novelty of their bending.


The changes in bending is my BIGGEST quarral with the new series. The bending in TLAB was nothing less than beautiful. When I watch TLAB fights, there's an undescribable sense of awe for reasons i probably don't understand. But you can almost feel the people's personalities through the bending.

In Korra nearly every scene with bending is just people lobbing a a chunk of water at some dude, or a chunk of rock. Its basically like there's hardly a difference between the elements because people just slap each other with their respective color(red,blue, brown).

Damn, just watch the 9 minute battle between Zuko and Azula on youtube, is there a scene in Korra that comes close in comparison of beauty?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
June 27 2012 03:51 GMT
#2875
On June 27 2012 12:48 Mellowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 12:38 Gahlo wrote:
On June 26 2012 19:03 Firebolt145 wrote:
So I spend the last 48 hours (or so) watching all 3 seasons of TLAB.

Holy fuck I had forgotten how amazing the bending was there. Waves of ice crushing down opponents, circles of fire splitting into multiple fireballs heading in different directions, mountains of dirt and earthquakes, tornadoes and gusts of air to harden molden lava...

I want some of that stuff in TLK. Most of TLK so far is measly small projectile bending atm. Has bending really deteriorated that much in the last 50-60 years?


I'm going to roughly paraphrase the creators. They did some AM I'm too tired to find now that I heard from reddit.

It was on purpose. Most of the main benders in the show we probender that fought in a certain stylized way. In probending there were always other rules and restrictions to take into account. Outside of the ring, that wasn't the case. It's like asking a boxer to fight a streetfighter.


On a personal note, that's why it made Tenzin and Lin look so baller when the wrecked shit. Well, that and the novelty of their bending.


The changes in bending is my BIGGEST quarral with the new series. The bending in TLAB was nothing less than beautiful. When I watch TLAB fights, there's an undescribable sense of awe for reasons i probably don't understand. But you can almost feel the people's personalities through the bending.

In Korra nearly every scene with bending is just people lobbing a a chunk of water at some dude, or a chunk of rock. Its basically like there's hardly a difference between the elements because people just slap each other with their respective color(red,blue, brown).

Damn, just watch the 9 minute battle between Zuko and Azula on youtube, is there a scene in Korra that comes close in comparison of beauty?


To each his own.

But do recall that probending is the predominant influence on popular contemporary bending.

I had no issue with this.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 27 2012 06:21 GMT
#2876
I also liked the style of fighting in LoK. If anything, the major reason I saw the bending being what it was from a setting point of view is that it's hard to chi block someone encased in a wall of rock. If it was TLA, Lin wouldn't be standing there owning stuff, she'd throw herself into a defensive area and chuck rocks at people all day.

But if we go the "probending as a big influence" then another big influence is obviously that people aren't at war. And certainly not at war with chi blockers until suddenly: they're at war with chi blockers. In TLA people had fought against firebenders for 100 years predominately and being at war was a constant thing.

Anyway I thought there was some beauty in the bending of LoK. Bending battles were pretty and that Tarlok v Korra battle, though short, was pretty boss. But nothing was ever going to be of the scale of TLA. I mean, come on: fighting against a giant water carp man or super saiyan firebenders isn't typically fair.

I understand the gripe, but I still appreciate the bending style shown in the show.
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StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
June 27 2012 06:35 GMT
#2877
i'm excited for seasons 2 and 3
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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 27 2012 09:26 GMT
#2878
On June 27 2012 15:35 StatikKhaos wrote:
i'm excited for seasons 2 and 3

There are currently no plans for a third season.
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
June 27 2012 09:45 GMT
#2879
On June 27 2012 18:26 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 15:35 StatikKhaos wrote:
i'm excited for seasons 2 and 3

There are currently no plans for a third season.

Not to mention they already wrote season two. There's not going to be a season three unless they intentionally left the whole thing open ended (unlikely).
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Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
June 27 2012 09:52 GMT
#2880
On June 27 2012 15:21 bittman wrote:
I also liked the style of fighting in LoK. If anything, the major reason I saw the bending being what it was from a setting point of view is that it's hard to chi block someone encased in a wall of rock. If it was TLA, Lin wouldn't be standing there owning stuff, she'd throw herself into a defensive area and chuck rocks at people all day.

But if we go the "probending as a big influence" then another big influence is obviously that people aren't at war. And certainly not at war with chi blockers until suddenly: they're at war with chi blockers. In TLA people had fought against firebenders for 100 years predominately and being at war was a constant thing.

Anyway I thought there was some beauty in the bending of LoK. Bending battles were pretty and that Tarlok v Korra battle, though short, was pretty boss. But nothing was ever going to be of the scale of TLA. I mean, come on: fighting against a giant water carp man or super saiyan firebenders isn't typically fair.

I understand the gripe, but I still appreciate the bending style shown in the show.


I would also like to point out that the show makes a pretty big deal in the first episode about how out of control bending can do more harm that good in a highly populated and developed cityscape. If you had the bending power to throw huge boulders and incinerate the landscape would you use it while fighting in the middle of Manhattan?

Id like to think that even a hothead like Korra would respect certain limits to prevent collateral damage (both life and property).
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