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Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 10:51:30
June 24 2012 10:51 GMT
#2701
On June 24 2012 19:39 kemoryan wrote:
Thank god I skipped from 6 to the finale. This show is so bad compared to the Aang series... characters and plot are weak and uninteresting, but specially the fights, they are so underwhelming compared to that of TLAB, why are they so inconsistent with the bending power levels of the previous show? The awesome fights and the adventure-like storyline was what made me watch the original series despite it being so childish.

Sorry for the rant, I had my hopes up for this show and especially seeing how the thread here was constantly bumped :/
Forgot to include the above in my rant. The show severely lacked in awesome bending battles/bending tricks. Disappointing.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
June 24 2012 11:04 GMT
#2702
On June 24 2012 19:39 kemoryan wrote:
Thank god I skipped from 6 to the finale. This show is so bad compared to the Aang series... characters and plot are weak and uninteresting, but specially the fights, they are so underwhelming compared to that of TLAB, why are they so inconsistent with the bending power levels of the previous show? The awesome fights and the adventure-like storyline was what made me watch the original series despite it being so childish.

Sorry for the rant, I had my hopes up for this show and especially seeing how the thread here was constantly bumped :/


TLA had a bunch of seasons to have proper character development and set up epic battles/encounters. TLoK was only assigned 12 episodes to START and FINISH! I am with you that I enjoyed TLA much more, but we have to accept that the original can never be replicated. I enjoy TLoK, that being said.
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 24 2012 11:16 GMT
#2703
On June 24 2012 16:50 SkelA wrote:
I dont know why you guys are complaining about LOK. Yes it was rushed and little underwhelming and i hated the romance with Mako and Korra but in the end it all tied up nicely. They did preety good job with the limited time they had to work with and overall it was really good.

The visions of Korra make more sense because Amon was still somehow tied with them. I still beleive Amon is not dead and he will make a comeback in the next season.


The thing is, there was no reason for them to have had so little time in the first place. The first show was widely successful and they could easily have asked for a larger episode order, they were given an order for a second season anyway. If Legend of Korra was anywhere between 16-20 episodes I think it could have been paced much better.

Some scenes in the finale were absolutely atrocious, and I'm not sure if it was because of time constraints or just poor writing. Korra arriving to save the fleet and only saving one guy(who happens to be the general) and neither of them making any effort to save anyone else was absolutely retarded. It made Iroh seem like a horrible general and made no sense for Korra either.

Amon suddenly giving up on everything and deciding he wanted to chill with his brother sort of came out of nowhere as well. Everything was wrapped up but it was wrapped up hastily and was really underwhelming.
Siborg
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia51 Posts
June 24 2012 11:39 GMT
#2704
Im not sure what all the complaining is about with the ending. Its the first season.

If the show was meant to be about Korra learning bending and slowly becoming confident enough to beat the main villain over 3 series then It would just be Original Avatar all over again.

Now the writers actually get to create a new story with a fully fledged avatar to deal with things that the avatar should in a world where she is at some points( technology wise) not even needed.

Didn't everyone wish that they could of seen what Aang did after he could spirit bend and was a complete Avatar?.

I for one, am psyched for season 2 and what could happen. Cause at the moment, I have no idea what's planned. And thats thrilling.
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
June 24 2012 11:42 GMT
#2705
On June 24 2012 20:39 Siborg wrote:Didn't everyone wish that they could of seen what Aang did after he could spirit bend and was a complete Avatar?.


There's a comic about that called The Promise.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 12:02:40
June 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#2706
On June 24 2012 16:07 MeteorRise wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
What I really enjoyed about the show was that how the actions and cause of the antagonist, Amon, were somewhat justified. In the eyes of the hundreds of thousands of non-benders, Amon was almost a symbol of liberation and justice.The non-benders were being repressed and many of them had a valid cause to support Amon and attempting to topple the tyranny of the benders. Amon's revolution was obviously way too extreme and flawed in a bunch of ways, but I felt empathetic to the equalist cause. It was an interesting way to express the outcry of a downtrodden minority. I really enjoyed the gray morality that show sort of built, in that both the benders and non-benders felt like they were doing the right thing to make the world a better place.

However, I disliked how they made Amon into an irredeemable megavillian who just abused his blood bending power to wreck everything. He used a non-water proof red paint to just draw scars on his face and made up some BS story. After Tarlock just info dumped us with Amon's true identity, we realize that Amon's cause is totally fake and he's just using the revolution to eliminate bending because his daddy abused him with it. It suddenly turned the somewhat gray morality into just a black and white one, where the guys in white beat the guys in black and save the world. Also I thought it was going to be interesting how Korra lost her bending, and I thought it would be cool if she would be like a broken avatar and just try her best with just air bending. But suddenly Aang just pops up and fixes everything like it aint no thang. I felt like this trivialized the impact of losing one's bending and took away any lasting effect Amon could have had on the avatar.

My gripes were pretty much they just made it into a good guys win, bad guys lose show, and had a cheery sunshines and rainbows everything is fine ending. Also Mako is a douche for cheating on Asami. ./endrant.

+ Show Spoiler +
Exept, you know, he broke up with her. Remember that whole "I'm sorry things got so crazy between us so fast, but I want you to know how much I care for you" bit?


It's a shame season 1 couldn't have been 2-4 episodes longer or was given the go for season 2 before they finished this one as it would have helped the flow. At the same time, I can accept it for what it is given what they had to work with.

Irami plox.
PieceOCake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
June 24 2012 12:14 GMT
#2707
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 24 2012 12:34 GMT
#2708
On June 24 2012 20:39 Siborg wrote:
Im not sure what all the complaining is about with the ending. Its the first season.

If the show was meant to be about Korra learning bending and slowly becoming confident enough to beat the main villain over 3 series then It would just be Original Avatar all over again.

Now the writers actually get to create a new story with a fully fledged avatar to deal with things that the avatar should in a world where she is at some points( technology wise) not even needed.

Didn't everyone wish that they could of seen what Aang did after he could spirit bend and was a complete Avatar?.

I for one, am psyched for season 2 and what could happen. Cause at the moment, I have no idea what's planned. And thats thrilling.


That's not the issue that people are raising though. The issue was largely with poor pacing, you don't need Korra to learn the elements one by one over the course of the series, you just need better pacing and writing. Some of the specific criticisms I've already mentioned in earlier posts.

I did not want LoK to be TLA, it was disappointing for other reasons.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 24 2012 13:02 GMT
#2709
Even though it happened way too fast, I still liked the fact that Aang just showed up and was like 'what now? Some blood bender took away the avatar's bending? lolokthenifyousayso'
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
June 24 2012 14:00 GMT
#2710
Korra going all avatar-state was a bit quick, im not sure about that, i mean, the first time it looked like she was kinda "put" into the avatar state by aang, but then she goes all glowy whenever she wants? Seems a bit quick.

Other than that i think the finale was alright, not Aang-worthy, but its season 1, i can deal with some things being rushed (as Mordidford said- she saves 1 guy and they just run off leaving the rest of the fleet to die/be captured whatever? but lame, a few other things too)

All up, i liked it.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 24 2012 14:46 GMT
#2711
I liked the finale, but I hated how they ended it. I wish Amon and Tarrlok didn't suicide, and they actually tried to build up again as brothers or something. The bloodbending into taking away bending thing seemed cool, and I would've liked to see Korra slowly develop with only airbending. I understand why Energybending can be used to give back bending, but I really would have liked to see her slowly learn Energybending instead of Aang just wtfhaxing all of it back to her. I also wanted to see Korra actually connect more with her other lives. Like, Aang talked to Roku & co. a lot. I want to see Korra do that too.
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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
June 24 2012 14:50 GMT
#2712
There were barely any bending tricks or using bending in an interesting way in this season... it was all the same style of punch kick and some element flies out.
always tired -_-
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 24 2012 14:56 GMT
#2713
On June 24 2012 23:50 AppleTart wrote:
There were barely any bending tricks or using bending in an interesting way in this season... it was all the same style of punch kick and some element flies out.


I agree. Iroh's lightning re-direction was so fucking awesome since it was based on waterbending and showed a lot of wisdom.

Also, why does electricity seem to be so much weaker now? Aang almost died from it, and Zuko was hurt badly even after trying to redirect it in his Agni-Kai vs Azula. Now, Amon gets hit point blank, and it's like, herp derp, lemme get up and be the bad guy.
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Valeranth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States100 Posts
June 24 2012 15:00 GMT
#2714
I was a bit disappointed in the end. Would have loved to have them change it once they got a second season so that korra never got her bending back from Aang but rather it cuts to Lin who is moving a small pebble or something. Either way we cant change what happened so here is to hoping they extend the next one for 2 or 3 seasons and we can get a much better story.
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
June 24 2012 15:13 GMT
#2715
i thought it was awesome!
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
June 24 2012 16:23 GMT
#2716
Maybe it is just me but I totally did not get the impression that she mastered the avatar state in an instant as some seem to be saying. As far as I can tell the scope of her revelation was the ability to reverse Amon's technique and that's it. Also I feel that some people in this thread need to go back and re-watch the original because it did NOT have a large concentration of epic battles.

This all said I think the finale was fine. We had no idea if Amon was truly repentant since he was such a shameless manipulator so I understand his brother feeling he was too dangerous to let live. Avatar is a 'deus ex machina' story by design. You always know, from the first episode of the first show, that every problem will eventually be resolved with the avatar state so to complain about this point seems silly.

My main criticisms would be that the main love triangle was a little too emo for my taste and that pro bending felt too restrained. I know they wanted it to seem like an authentic sport but this is fantasy so i think it is okay to go a little crazy.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
June 24 2012 16:29 GMT
#2717
On June 24 2012 23:56 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 23:50 AppleTart wrote:
There were barely any bending tricks or using bending in an interesting way in this season... it was all the same style of punch kick and some element flies out.


I agree. Iroh's lightning re-direction was so fucking awesome since it was based on waterbending and showed a lot of wisdom.

Also, why does electricity seem to be so much weaker now? Aang almost died from it, and Zuko was hurt badly even after trying to redirect it in his Agni-Kai vs Azula. Now, Amon gets hit point blank, and it's like, herp derp, lemme get up and be the bad guy.


makos lightning is not azulas lightning
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 17:08:15
June 24 2012 17:07 GMT
#2718
So after not following this at all (but knowing it existed), I watched all 12 episodes in the last 18 hours or so.

Was very enjoyable, though I'd admit that my favourite parts were hands down all the references to the past. Seeing flashbacks of old Aang, Toph, etc etc and hearing about their future just made me so happy. On a related note the only part of the very ending that disappointed me was that Aang and past avatars appeared for only a split second, barely speaking to Karra at all, before supering all her powers back.

Very enjoyable, I can't wait till next season.
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GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
June 24 2012 17:19 GMT
#2719
On June 24 2012 19:39 kemoryan wrote:
Thank god I skipped from 6 to the finale. This show is so bad compared to the Aang series... characters and plot are weak and uninteresting, but specially the fights, they are so underwhelming compared to that of TLAB, why are they so inconsistent with the bending power levels of the previous show? The awesome fights and the adventure-like storyline was what made me watch the original series despite it being so childish.

Sorry for the rant, I had my hopes up for this show and especially seeing how the thread here was constantly bumped :/


I just finished the last episode of this show and I have to agree with you 100%

Aang is a much much much better Protaganist than Korra. He represents innocence, hard work, devotion, and non-violent nature, all of which I think are needed qualities in an Avatar. He also had so much internal character development. His guilt from being frozen caused him to reach out and train to get that power, but when he finally achieved that power, his pacifist nature to not take a life conflicted with the world's urgent need to get rid of Sozen. He found his answer by unlocking the power to take away bending. You could also see how, in his internal state, he was battling for achieving full potential of avatar state vs. maintaining human affection for his love.

Korra, on the other hand, just wants to fight for what she believes in, and become a full-fledged avatar. Her hot-headed personality sucked, and she didn't try to think through things, she would always try to force it thru.

Not only is Aang much more like-able, but his character had real depth and maturity.



The plot and power, I agree, is on a much smaller scale on this show. TLAB was a group of talented adventurers vs an entire fire nation empire that had a scary powerful firebender that will have his power magnified. In Korra, it's an established society (with the avatar) vs. a rebel group. Let's pretend like Korra did get killed by Amond and his group, and all the good characters died off. So what? The fire nation/united nations will not let the Equalists survive.

In TLAB, it looked hopeless for the protaginists, so it was more exciting and adventure themed.
In LoK, it looked hopeless for the antagonists, which is not exciting for the audience watching the show.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
June 24 2012 17:24 GMT
#2720
On June 24 2012 20:16 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:50 SkelA wrote:
I dont know why you guys are complaining about LOK. Yes it was rushed and little underwhelming and i hated the romance with Mako and Korra but in the end it all tied up nicely. They did preety good job with the limited time they had to work with and overall it was really good.

The visions of Korra make more sense because Amon was still somehow tied with them. I still beleive Amon is not dead and he will make a comeback in the next season.


The thing is, there was no reason for them to have had so little time in the first place. The first show was widely successful and they could easily have asked for a larger episode order, they were given an order for a second season anyway. If Legend of Korra was anywhere between 16-20 episodes I think it could have been paced much better.

Some scenes in the finale were absolutely atrocious, and I'm not sure if it was because of time constraints or just poor writing. Korra arriving to save the fleet and only saving one guy(who happens to be the general) and neither of them making any effort to save anyone else was absolutely retarded. It made Iroh seem like a horrible general and made no sense for Korra either.

Amon suddenly giving up on everything and deciding he wanted to chill with his brother sort of came out of nowhere as well. Everything was wrapped up but it was wrapped up hastily and was really underwhelming.


Thing is, you can't know if there was no reason or not. You should consider what is, and only base it off of that. (Treat it as a 12 episode series, not a 12 episode series trying to be as full as a ~26 episode series).

Also they didn't get a second season until they finished the first. Perhaps the people at Nick or whatever wanted to see the first season first before deciding or not. Again, you can't know unless they release this publicly.



@Disappointing fight scenes in LoK

All I have to say is... are you serious? xD They are much better animated, and more epic. There's more variety as well. There are both big bending battles as well as close combat fighting. Please don't tell me the early chi blocking fights didn't get you pumped up. You didn't see that level of animation in TLA.
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