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Kyrillion
Russian Federation748 Posts
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Janaan
United States381 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:12 SoraLimit wrote: Where the hell did it say that Aang died in the Avatar State? If that was the case, Korra wouldn't exist, or at least wouldn't exist with Fire and Earth bending. He's talking about when Azula shot Aang with lightning at the end of TLA Season 2. He was in the Avatar State when he was shot, so the theory that there was a reincarnation of the avatar from Aang "dying" before Katara revived him isn't possible. When Aang eventually did die, it obviously was not in the Avatar State. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On June 20 2012 01:47 tauon wrote: My favourite theory about Amon is: (contains plot details from The Last Airbender) + Show Spoiler + Would like to suggest that Korra can't access her spiritual state because Aang blocked his final Chakra. Also, Aang technically died while in the avatar state so perhaps Amon inherited the spiritual aspect of the Avatar when he died the first time and Korra got the bending when he died for a final time. Amon did say the world's spirits gave him the power because the avatar failed. All the stuff surrounding Chakras was never properly resolved in the original series imo. Here are some leaked scenes from the next episode (11. "Skeletons in the Closet") if anyone is interested: Dinner in hiding: http://www.mediafire.com/?c2cuqbb6426ac58 Korra and Mako reflect: http://www.mediafire.com/?o442zpdcx5a44wy aang clearly had the avatar state mojo at the end of TLA and he was seen multiple times using it in korra during flash backs so the chakra was unsealed after being hit in the spot where he was struck by lightening | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:12 SoraLimit wrote: Where the hell did it say that Aang died in the Avatar State? If that was the case, Korra wouldn't exist, or at least wouldn't exist with Fire and Earth bending. People are talking about when Azula struck Aang down with a direct lightning hit while he was in his Avatar state. Aang would have been dead if not for Kataras healing water. Aang didn't die then and there, but if not for Katara the Avatar cycle would have been over. | ||
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Belgo
United States721 Posts
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
Azula did obviously get the jump on him, but all the same. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On June 20 2012 01:47 tauon wrote: My favourite theory about Amon is: (contains plot details from The Last Airbender) + Show Spoiler + Would like to suggest that Korra can't access her spiritual state because Aang blocked his final Chakra. Also, Aang technically died while in the avatar state so perhaps Amon inherited the spiritual aspect of the Avatar when he died the first time and Korra got the bending when he died for a final time. Amon did say the world's spirits gave him the power because the avatar failed. All the stuff surrounding Chakras was never properly resolved in the original series imo. Here are some leaked scenes from the next episode (11. "Skeletons in the Closet") if anyone is interested: Dinner in hiding: http://www.mediafire.com/?c2cuqbb6426ac58 Korra and Mako reflect: http://www.mediafire.com/?o442zpdcx5a44wy + Show Spoiler + Soooo...that guy serving them food is obviously Bumi, Aang's non-bender son, right? | ||
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SoraLimit
Canada747 Posts
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nooboon
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lxanderl
United States629 Posts
also I wonder if they will develop airbending's stronger form. all the other elements have stronger forms. it makes sense within the world that air wouldn't, because the masters of air were mostly wiped out and so the tradition didn't have as much time to develop. but they sure seem to be posturing for air to have some special place, seeing as korra's weakness is air and her tutor and his family, all airbenders, get a lot of face time on the show. maybe she will be the one to develop the specialized, stronger version of airbending | ||
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Belgo
United States721 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:39 lxanderl wrote: at this point I could see amon being yakone. he would have motive, after getting his powers taken away by aang, to learn or obtain the power to remove bending to bring others to his level, as well as rule republic city. it would create an interesting dynamic with tarlok, in the same line as asami and her father, but much more volatile and manipulative (having taken away his own son's powers). only thing is he might be too old, but if he could obtain bending removal, he probably could have some method to mitigate aging (perhaps he is cyborg-like, being slowed initially by blood bending but not incapacitated by it) also I wonder if they will develop airbending's stronger form. all the other elements have stronger forms. it makes sense within the world that air wouldn't, because the masters of air were mostly wiped out and so the tradition didn't have as much time to develop. but they sure seem to be posturing for air to have some special place, seeing as korra's weakness is air and her tutor and his family, all airbenders, get a lot of face time on the show. maybe she will be the one to develop the specialized, stronger version of airbending Airbending dosn't not have another other "Forms" (metalbending, bloodbending/healing, lightingbending) They never said why, I could get into the philosophical reasons why (but seeing how every time I brought something up like that is was ignored D ; ) But I doubt they will. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:49 Belgo wrote: Airbending dosn't not have another other "Forms" (metalbending, bloodbending/healing, lightingbending) They never said why, I could get into the philosophical reasons why (but seeing how every time I brought something up like that is was ignored D ; ) But I doubt they will. What would it be? Vacuumbending would be sick! | ||
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SoraLimit
Canada747 Posts
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Belgo
United States721 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:52 Spicy_Curry wrote: What would it be? Vacuumbending would be sick! Well, a vaccum isn't a "thing" it is a lack of something. All the other elements is just a secondary thing that also resides in the primary bending element. The closest thing airbending has is cloudbending, which a waterbender can do aswell so isn't exactly the same. But, since airbending is based on Ba Gua, an internal martial art and one of the highest, if not the highest martial arts in existence. (You can distill every movement and action in Ba Gua into every other martial art) So, given that airbending is already has within itself all that it encompasses. (Not speaking out of my ass, I am an intenral martial artist, Tai Chi, XianYi, Bagua and do a avatar panel at conventions yearly. ) On June 20 2012 06:56 SoraLimit wrote: Heh, they do have another form of Airbending, and it's obviously beard bending (Senses?). + Show Spoiler + Also...totally cheating. | ||
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Acetone
United States200 Posts
On June 20 2012 05:53 Crazyeyes wrote: The whole 'two Avatar cycles' theory is retarded. It's all based off the fact that Aang died, which suggests a new Avatar state could have started, but then Aang was resurrected so there are two at once. Why is this retarded? 1) The Avatar is the spirit of the earth or something that gets reincarnated. It wouldn't make sense for this spirit to 'split.' 2) That last reason I pulled out of my ass but seems to make sense. The REAL reason, and the only one that matters, is that when Aang died, he died in the Avatar State. When the Avatar dies in the AS, the Avatar cycle ENDS. So there is no reason for a second cycle to start after Aang died, becuase it should have completely stopped at that point. I never bought into that theory either, and also for two reasons. The first is the one you mentioned second. The second is that I'm unconvinced that Aang ever died in the first place. I took a little time to revisit the relevant conversation between Aang and Katara in Book 3: Fire, Chapter 1: The Awakening, and the important part goes like this: Aang: "I went down. I didn't just get hurt, did I? It was worse than that. I was gone, but you brought me back." Katara: "I just used the spirit water from the North Pole. I don't know what I did exactly." Aang: "You saved me." It's completely vague. My assumption is that Aang was just unconscious, in a coma of some sort. A spiritual coma, perhaps, but it could have been just physical, too (you know, due to being electrocuted and all). It's impossible to say for sure. Again, we know too little. Here's something interesting I noticed about Aang's revival in the Book 2 finale: Katara's spirit water appears to be absorbed into Aang's scar, and is presumably what breathes life/spirit/something back into Aang, as his tattoos glow and he regains consciousness for a little while. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/x6fCD.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Tao5z.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NkyrN.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cbPEo.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1S2qK.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UvbWX.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1cryK.jpg) It makes some sense if you consider the fact that the spirit water is from the little pond in which the spirits Tui and La (the sources of waterbending) reside. Or it could've just evaporated for some other unexplained, possibly metaphysical reason. Who knows. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
Unless they go with something that isn't obvious at all like water - healing. Then again its most likely that they just won't really touch any of that at all. I hope they do, though. Korra should learn all the sub-bendings. Jinora should discover the new airbending and get her tattoos. I want one of Tenzin kids to get their tattoos before the series is over. | ||
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Acetone
United States200 Posts
On June 20 2012 07:22 Crazyeyes wrote: I think the most commonly accepted second 'type' of airbending would be soundbending. I think it's even in the Avatar wiki. What else could it be? Unless they go with something that isn't obvious at all like water - healing. Then again its most likely that they just won't really touch any of that at all. I hope they do, though. Korra should learn all the sub-bendings. Jinora should discover the new airbending and get her tattoos. I want one of Tenzin kids to get their tattoos before the series is over. Soundbending would not only be feasible for airbenders, but for earthbenders and waterbenders as well. It would be cool to see some, but there's no possibility of it being usable only by airbenders. Well, I guess the writers could decide to ignore basic physics, but that'd be totally lame. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
EDIT: Sound travels through a medium. If it's traveling through water, a waterbender shoudl theoretically be able to bend it. Same goes for earth. I guess that's what you're getting at? I guess that makes sense. Although thats not really bending the sound itself, which is what this would be. When looked at it from a physics-PoV, that doesnt seem to make much sense to me anymore. But then again, neither does earthbending. Theres no such thing as 'earth.' I still think soundbending would be the best candidate... nothing else really makes any sense at all. | ||
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Acetone
United States200 Posts
On June 20 2012 07:35 Crazyeyes wrote: As a person who apparently doesn't understand basic physics, I don't see how an earthbender would be able to bend sound. EDIT: Sound travels through a medium. If it's traveling through water, a waterbender shoudl theoretically be able to bend it. Same goes for earth. I guess that's what you're getting at? I guess that makes sense. Although thats not really bending the sound itself, which is what this would be. When looked at it from a physics-PoV, that doesnt seem to make much sense to me anymore. But then again, neither does earthbending. Theres no such thing as 'earth.' I still think soundbending would be the best candidate... nothing else really makes any sense at all. Yes, that's what I was getting at. However, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "bending the sound itself." Sound is just how our eardrums interpret longitudinal waves in a certain range of frequencies (I think the approximate range is between 20 Hz and 20,000 Hz), so the only type of soundbending I can imagine is generating a specific sound by controlling your medium of choice (air, water or earth) at the molecular level and exercising some limited control over the direction of propagation. As far as I'm concerned, that'd be some Grandmaster-level bending. Hmmm, perhaps, if it were really studied and developed, we could hear some musicbending and conversationbending. O.O EDIT: I felt like I should mention that I share you frustration with the idea of earthbending. Really, what ARE they bending? o.O | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
Why, you ask? Why not? I've got nothing, though. This is probably why theres no specialized bending technique for Air. Because they simply couldnt think of anything. :/ | ||
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