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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
On May 24 2011 18:55 Robstickle wrote: Did anyone else laugh at them using romantic music in the Sansa Joffrey scene? Such epic trolling. during that entire scene all i could think was "oh no he di-int" | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On May 24 2011 19:16 Telcontar wrote: So 6 episodes into the first season, how is everyone finding the series? I've not been able to watch it since I've been reading through the books again in preparation for A Dance with Dragons. Is it living up to everyone's expectations and more? so far HBO is doing a great job | ||
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Uhnno
Netherlands288 Posts
On May 24 2011 19:14 NEwAcC) wrote: during that entire scene all i could think was "oh no he di-int" Dont forget the index finger shaking while saying that. The series is staying very true to the books, adding some scenes here and there. Most of the additions are pretty good and I enjoy them. The casting is pretty much spot on for Ned/Tyrion/Arya/Littlefinger so far. Very recommendable. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On May 23 2011 08:45 skyrunner wrote: I think a theory is that the skull could be from one of the dead dwarves that were brought to Cersei. Dwarves seem to always be described as having abnormally large heads. ..compared to their bodies | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:04 1Eris1 wrote: Did you not read my post? Thats exactly what I'm arguing, that good/evil is not black and white at all, besides from a few specific individuals like Gregor, etc. No you're the one who is since the beginning arguing around "good" or "evil". I never used that, I said the Lannister were the VILAIN, the ANTAGONIST, the bad guys. Does not mean they are nazi who only want to destroy, but you are still supposed to take the side of the Stark, that's it, there is nothing to argue to that. The PoV are absolutly relevant: every character that you follow are opponent / against the Lannisters for the first 2 books and, except Cersei, all the Lannister you follow AFTER the first two books are more or less getting more and more distant with the Lannisters (Jaime burning Cersei's letter, Tyrion killing his father and helping Daenerys against his own familly). That's why I don't like how the saga evolved in AFFC, he built the entire saga around one familly who follow certain rules, getting destroyed by another familly while other event occur that are yet irrelevant to the main plot, which is the game of throne (the shit around the Iron Throne). Then, Martin destroyed all the grown up Starks, letting only the Lannisters / a certain number of new PoV / Daenerys still away from Westeros / and a bunch of kids. It's good to schock the readers with amazing twist and the lost of some major characters, but once you did that, you gotta think about what you let after. And, before you came and talk to me about good and evil, I was asking, how the TV show is gonna get, when all the Starks are going to die / disappear. (Just to mention, Arya does not use the name Stark, Catelyn same, Sansa same, Jon never used it anyway, Benjen gone and most likely became "Cold Hand", the only Starks in the books are Rickon who will not be back and Bran). | ||
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petitdragon
France22 Posts
Quick question though, I cannot remember Loras Tyrell and Renly being lovers from the books... Was it in there ? If so was it hinted or clearly stated ? Anyways it feels pretty right, so no complaint there ^^ | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On May 24 2011 23:10 petitdragon wrote: HBO is doing an absolutely awesome job with this, probably the best fantasy adaptation I have ever seen. Quick question though, I cannot remember Loras Tyrell and Renly being lovers from the books... Was it in there ? If so was it hinted or clearly stated ? Anyways it feels pretty right, so no complaint there ^^ Not explicitly stated but very strongly hinted. I think GRRM confirmed that they were lovers. | ||
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Doppelganger
488 Posts
On May 24 2011 23:12 Telcontar wrote: Not explicitly stated but very strongly hinted. I think GRRM confirmed that they were lovers. He did indeed. | ||
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matko5
Croatia385 Posts
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
Yeah, probably the first time for many viewers that a show kills of a huge percentage of (at that point) important characters. Will be interesting to see. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
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Cayn
Germany173 Posts
On May 24 2011 23:56 matko5 wrote: Only thing I wonder about is how will the audience receive the execution of Ned. I mean, it was a shock to me because I never saw that done to a main character (and you have to admit, he was the mainest of them all) and then just continuing with the story like nothing "mayor" happened. well in my feeling just such events make the books so superior i remember the scene with Theon Greyjoy returning to Winterfell and Describing how Brann and Rickons Heads are Spiked on the Walls. It was such a harsh moment grrm's writing style and his art to killing characters u liked is great  | ||
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
On May 25 2011 00:37 Sm3agol wrote: I don't care about spoilers and never read the books...what happens to Drogo? His storyline was just getting me interested. i just copy past from the asoiaf wiki "While in Lhazar, Drogo's khalasar battled and defeated the rival khalasar of Khal Ogo. Drogo slew Ogo himself, but took a wound to the chest. Though Drogo was unconcerned with his minor wound, Daenerys convinced him to let Mirri Maz Duur, a Lhazareen maegi (herb-woman) she had rescued, make him a poultice. The poultice itched, and Drogo tore it off, causing the wound to fester. Drogo's condition deteriorated until he fell from his horse, a symbol to his warriors that he could no longer lead them. As he lingered near death, Daenerys convinced Mirri Maz Duur to use her blood magic to preserve his life. The maegi betrayed her in revenge for the attack on her village, and the ritual only returned Drogo to a catatonic vegetable state, [...]. After Drogo would not wake up from this state, Daenerys smothered him with a pillow and built him a funeral pyre as his khalasar broke apart." | ||
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skyrunner
371 Posts
Well that's obvious... But not the point. There are definitely enough in the text to back this up but... forget it. | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On May 24 2011 19:09 Robstickle wrote: At a season per book, 7 seasons, and AGOT is the shortest book. I doubt that the last book will even be out when the 3rd season finishes. It's probably not gonna be a season per book. Storm of Swords is almost twice as long as Game of Thrones, there is no way to do it in 10 episodes without cutting out half the plotlines. Dance comes out this July and is also longer than Storm, so if we count 2 seasons for Storm and Dance, the series will catch up to printed material by June 2017, by which point I do hope we'll have had more books. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
As one last tidbit of evidence, it can be said that if Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna, it fits with the series name 'A Song of Ice and Fire.' Jon seems to be shaping as the main character, and it would fit the series title if his parents were Rhaegar (fire) and Lyanna (ice). So I was discussing GoT with Wax last night before sleeping. The conclusion we came to was that Jon was ice and Dany was fire and they would go against one another in the end... or something like that. Basically because Jon is now pretty much the only character left in the series without fault. I mean, you know he's got to be something important in the end, even if he's getting ignored now. Though that interpretation above makes me think... Jon + Dany get married or something? Who knows; I actually need to read the books now instead of spoilering myself off wiki plots and internet articles. Edit: Huh, and the first comment at the end of that article came to the same conclusion I did... | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On May 25 2011 02:05 flamewheel wrote: From http://towerofthehand.com/essays/chrisholden/jon_snows_parents.html : So I was discussing GoT with Wax last night before sleeping. The conclusion we came to was that Jon was ice and Dany was fire and they would go against one another in the end... or something like that. Basically because Jon is now pretty much the only character left in the series without fault. I mean, you know he's got to be something important in the end, even if he's getting ignored now. Though that interpretation above makes me think... Jon + Dany get married or something? Who knows; I actually need to read the books now instead of spoilering myself off wiki plots and internet articles. Edit: Huh, and the first comment at the end of that article came to the same conclusion I did... Yeah even if it's quite pointless to theorize on the end of the books, I also think Jon and Daenerys will fight one against each other, until the others or any other bigger threat comes and force them to unite. Then Daenerys marry Jon (who is the prince that should come or whatever) and everybody is happy. At least that's how I see the end of the book. Daenerys have had some dream about her brother Rhaegar and how he talks about the third head of the dragon while looking at his two child, meaning Jon is the third. The problem is Martin is the guy that is known to shaken your own certitude. On the other side, he already killed almost everyone. On May 25 2011 00:35 Mattes wrote: Its not only Ned (although you're right, he is the main character of book 1), but the viewers who haven't read the books will experience 4 "major" deaths in 4 consecutive episodes as it seems (ep6 - visery, ep7 - robert, ep8/9 - drogo/eddard). Yeah, probably the first time for many viewers that a show kills of a huge percentage of (at that point) important characters. Will be interesting to see. The main problem will not be in Season 1 I think because, even if Ned / Varys / Drogo /Robert are all great characters, they don't die letting nothing behind them: Ned has a son, Varys and Drogo's story line / legacy will still be there through Daenerys and Robert will be there through Stannis / Renly / Joffrey. My main concern is about S2, when you have Robb dying, Catelyne changing name (meaning no more grown up Starks), Renly dying (like a shit). Those characters will let nothing behind them, nobody will get revenge for them (at least not now after 4 books) and nobody will take their legacy / name through the rest of the saga. | ||
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On May 25 2011 01:47 Acid~ wrote: It's probably not gonna be a season per book. Storm of Swords is almost twice as long as Game of Thrones, there is no way to do it in 10 episodes without cutting out half the plotlines. Dance comes out this July and is also longer than Storm, so if we count 2 seasons for Storm and Dance, the series will catch up to printed material by June 2017, by which point I do hope we'll have had more books. That is kind of innacurate. The first and third books are approximately 800 and 1100 pages respectively (US paperback). That warrants 3-4 more episodes in season 3, but not an entire extra season. And I don't think we have to wait for 5 more years for the next book. They were delayed due to unforeseen plot complexities and Martin having to rethink the way he wanted to do the transition between the first and second part of the series (originally it was going to be a five year gap, but it didn't work out). It was not due to lazyness on his part, only perfectionism. It didn't happen for the first three books, and the last two books may be easier to write now that he has gotten through the hard transition bit. | ||
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lixlix
United States482 Posts
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