EPT[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 592
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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire Click Here for the spoiler-free thread. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14904 Posts
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
What do you think that means in regards to Jon's parentage? His status/lack of status as a Stark? | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 29 2015 00:03 domane wrote: Remember Jon's dream in the books where he is in the crypts of Winterfell and the buried kings tell him that he is not welcome/does not belong there? What do you think that means in regards to Jon's parentage? His status/lack of status as a Stark? i think u sortof misremeber the dreamsequence. Jon's parentage is as clear as an unrevealed secret can get, at this point | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On April 29 2015 00:03 domane wrote: Remember Jon's dream in the books where he is in the crypts of Winterfell and the buried kings tell him that he is not welcome/does not belong there? What do you think that means in regards to Jon's parentage? His status/lack of status as a Stark? It could just as well be that the ancestors are telling him it isn't his place because of his targ heritage and that his place will be at Dany's side fighting the others, aka he should not be (dead and) buried under Winterfell. | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
On April 29 2015 00:21 Geo.Rion wrote: i think u sortof misremeber the dreamsequence. Jon's parentage is as clear as an unrevealed secret can get, at this point There are multiple dream sequences. In AGOT where Jon yells that he's not a Stark but has to go down in the crypts. In ASoS where the Kings of Winter tell him there is no place for him in the crypt. But I agree that Jon's parentage is too muddled. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3813 Posts
On April 28 2015 07:57 SpiZe wrote: Kinda sad there was no "Edd, fetch me a block", Jon chose to execute him from the get go, there was no "oh shit it's about to get real" moment. Still thought the scene was really well done nonetheless. Everything was there, from Alliser's hesitation to Stannis's approval. Really liked the introduction to the scene too, the toilet jokes may sounds like a random joke at first, but it's actually a warning to both Janos and Alliser that's he's not a petty bitch and will try to do whats best for the watch. Alliser acknowledges this, Janos fails to see it. Alliser steps out of the way, realising that there is nothing to gain from protected him. Really well done. Probably Alliser will take Bowen Marsh role in the show though. Why they refuse to use the iconic phrases from the book is beyond me, "Only Cat" comes to mind as well. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3813 Posts
Just watched the episode. YES SER JORAH!!! One of my favourite characters, my dj scene name is exactly that Also, I love the political talent of some people. Cersei, Little Finger, Varys...damn, natural talent. He is gonna regret saying that once he sees the downfall of Cersei :-D | ||
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Sent.
Poland9275 Posts
On April 29 2015 03:17 Grovbolle wrote: From the other thread He is gonna regret saying that once he sees the downfall of Cersei :-D I'm kind of disappointed that show Cersei didn't do anything obviously stupid yet. Her chapters in the book instantly let you know that she is a narrow-minded person and an incompetent ruler so her fall could be expected. | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
On April 29 2015 03:42 Sent. wrote: I'm kind of disappointed that show Cersei didn't do anything obviously stupid yet. Her chapters in the book instantly let you know that she is a narrow-minded person and an incompetent ruler so her fall could be expected. But Cersei can still to drag people down with her. If she were to loses all caution, who knows what she'd be capable of? I'm reminded of Cersei's orders to kill Sansa if Stannis took the capital. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On April 29 2015 03:42 Sent. wrote: I'm kind of disappointed that show Cersei didn't do anything obviously stupid yet. Her chapters in the book instantly let you know that she is a narrow-minded person and an incompetent ruler so her fall could be expected. But that's mostly because we get inner monologue in the books. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On April 29 2015 03:42 Sent. wrote: I'm kind of disappointed that show Cersei didn't do anything obviously stupid yet. Her chapters in the book instantly let you know that she is a narrow-minded person and an incompetent ruler so her fall could be expected. 1) There's only so much incompetence they can blatantly show without straining incredulity. They need to build-up to her fall, so to speak. 2) That's because AFFC was written in Cersei's PoV, so we knew exactly how crazy, narrow-minded, and incompetent she was by inner thoughts. It wasn't until her actions bit her in the arse that her lack of competence was publicly revealed. 3) There's again only so much incompetence she can show without it being comical. She has some experience with politics, even if she's just some amateurish schemer. She is, at the least, more competent a politician and conniver than Ned. | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
It's becoming strangely satisfying watching people get insanely hopeful for the 5th time, only to have it all soon taken away. :D | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
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Sadir
Vatican City State1176 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14904 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On May 02 2015 01:44 Sadir wrote: what will happen when the series catches up to the book? is it true that the series will precede the books? And it seems like a LOT of things are going to end up changed anyway, so we won't know what things are spoilers and what things aren't. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On May 01 2015 15:24 dudeman001 wrote: Everything about this season is getting people hyped for Jon as the last great heroic character. It's becoming strangely satisfying watching people get insanely hopeful for the 5th time, only to have it all soon taken away. :D He will probably come back though. He is such an integral part in so many clever "conspiracies". | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
On May 03 2015 04:44 kyllinghest wrote: He will probably come back though. He is such an integral part in so many clever "conspiracies". I agree, he's probably not actually dead. But I feel like it would be such a hype moment to end episode 10 with Jon bleeding on the ground. But they may do the typical episode 9 giant shock event as usual too. I guess we'll find out when they release the episode names for the last 2 episodes. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On May 03 2015 04:50 dudeman001 wrote: I agree, he's probably not actually dead. But I feel like it would be such a hype moment to end episode 10 with Jon bleeding on the ground. But they may do the typical episode 9 giant shock event as usual too. I guess we'll find out when they release the episode names for the last 2 episodes. Yes it will indeed be epic when he dies. But are they making the two latest books into one season? Or is there actually a chance he only dies next season? | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On May 03 2015 04:50 dudeman001 wrote: I agree, he's probably not actually dead. But I feel like it would be such a hype moment to end episode 10 with Jon bleeding on the ground. But they may do the typical episode 9 giant shock event as usual too. I guess we'll find out when they release the episode names for the last 2 episodes. I think it would be better if Jon being stabbed was the very last scene of S5. Make it a proper cliffhanger. They didn't do the typical episode 9 climax scheme for S4, so there is a precedent. | ||
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