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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
April 22 2015 17:41 GMT
#11801
I've started playing a game with my GF when we watch GoT. "Guess if this scene was in the book" She does pretty well, guesses it nearly all the time. There's just such a massive difference in quality of writing/characters and like others have said, they've kinda butchered lots of characters for no real reason other than "cool tv"
<3
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 22 2015 17:44 GMT
#11802
On April 23 2015 00:44 Hyperbola wrote:
So if Sansa is going to take the place of uncat then she's going to hang Brienne? That'll be a hilarious ending to her story.


Brienne doesn't get hung by Lady Stoneheart though in the end.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 22 2015 17:59 GMT
#11803
On April 23 2015 02:41 Nebula wrote:
I've started playing a game with my GF when we watch GoT. "Guess if this scene was in the book" She does pretty well, guesses it nearly all the time. There's just such a massive difference in quality of writing/characters and like others have said, they've kinda butchered lots of characters for no real reason other than "cool tv"


I like to play a game too, it's called "pretend that the book and TV are two completely different stories set in the same universe." It helps me enjoy both mediums more than I would otherwise, and I suggest others give it a try.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
April 22 2015 18:54 GMT
#11804
On April 23 2015 02:59 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 02:41 Nebula wrote:
I've started playing a game with my GF when we watch GoT. "Guess if this scene was in the book" She does pretty well, guesses it nearly all the time. There's just such a massive difference in quality of writing/characters and like others have said, they've kinda butchered lots of characters for no real reason other than "cool tv"


I like to play a game too, it's called "pretend that the book and TV are two completely different stories set in the same universe." It helps me enjoy both mediums more than I would otherwise, and I suggest others give it a try.

Isn't alternative universe a little more plausible?
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 22 2015 22:28 GMT
#11805
On April 23 2015 02:44 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:44 Hyperbola wrote:
So if Sansa is going to take the place of uncat then she's going to hang Brienne? That'll be a hilarious ending to her story.


Brienne doesn't get hung by Lady Stoneheart though in the end.


Hanged, karazax. Brienne is not a tapestry.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 17:18:32
April 22 2015 23:51 GMT
#11806
What do you think will happen to Myrcella?

1. She survives

+ Doran is on top of things ("not while I rule")
+ Jaime has become a force of good, and that means he should succeed?


2. She dies

+ The deaths of Cersei's children were foretold ("... gold will be their shrouds") by the witch who was right about everything else.
+ Cersei is an insecure tyrant. Losing another child adds to her instability.
+ Jaime: "I'm going to Dorne. I'm bringing our daughter home" -> He could fail and bring home Myrcella's dead body.


Another question: are there any characters deceased in the books who are alive in the show?
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 00:02:58
April 23 2015 00:01 GMT
#11807
Marillion. Between the books and the show it appears he traded his tongue for his life.

I'd keep an eye out for Beric too. Without Uncat it seems likely enough he will stick around for any continued BwoB action.
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 00:59:37
April 23 2015 00:58 GMT
#11808
more like the brotherhood without central plot relevance
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
April 23 2015 04:07 GMT
#11809
On April 23 2015 08:51 domane wrote:
What do you think will happen to Myrcella?

A. She survives (injured or unharmed)

+ She is still alive in the books
+ Doran is on top of things
+ Jaime has had a positive transformation after losing his hand, and that means he should succeed?


B. She dies

+ Myrcella's death has been foreshadowed in the books. Maybe it will happen earlier in the show
+ Cersei is slowly becoming a crazed tyrant. Losing another child adds to her instability.
+ Jaime's conversation with Cersei

Jaime: "I'm gonna make things better"
Cersei: "You've never made anything better"
Jaime: "I'm going to Dorne. I'm bringing our daughter home"

For all we know, he could fail and bring home her dead body in a casket.


Another question: are there any characters deceased in the books who are alive in the show?


Balon Greyjoy?
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
April 23 2015 05:35 GMT
#11810
I'm inclined to think that Balon has been dead for a while, but he just wasn't important enough for the show to spare the time to spread the news.

Stannis did burn three leeches in the show, like in the books (Robb, Joffrey, and Balon).
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
April 24 2015 00:47 GMT
#11811
ill just leave this here

+ Show Spoiler +
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"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 24 2015 01:42 GMT
#11812
On April 23 2015 14:35 domane wrote:
I'm inclined to think that Balon has been dead for a while, but he just wasn't important enough for the show to spare the time to spread the news.

Stannis did burn three leeches in the show, like in the books (Robb, Joffrey, and Balon).


People keep mentioning this, but I'm 90% sure that Balon's death was mentioned in the show, just as an off-hand comment during a Small Council meeting or something like that.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
April 24 2015 23:29 GMT
#11813
On April 24 2015 10:42 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 14:35 domane wrote:
I'm inclined to think that Balon has been dead for a while, but he just wasn't important enough for the show to spare the time to spread the news.

Stannis did burn three leeches in the show, like in the books (Robb, Joffrey, and Balon).


People keep mentioning this, but I'm 90% sure that Balon's death was mentioned in the show, just as an off-hand comment during a Small Council meeting or something like that.


Nop.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
April 27 2015 08:55 GMT
#11814
Well, that was unexpected. Baelish taking Sansa to the Boltons instead of having her to himself? I can't see the reasoning if his ambitions are still as in the books. Guess the Sansa when Stannis rides to save her will be Sansa, eh.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
April 27 2015 12:49 GMT
#11815
On April 24 2015 10:42 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 14:35 domane wrote:
I'm inclined to think that Balon has been dead for a while, but he just wasn't important enough for the show to spare the time to spread the news.

Stannis did burn three leeches in the show, like in the books (Robb, Joffrey, and Balon).


People keep mentioning this, but I'm 90% sure that Balon's death was mentioned in the show, just as an off-hand comment during a Small Council meeting or something like that.

It wasn't mentioned
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 22:59:25
April 27 2015 22:57 GMT
#11816
Kinda sad there was no "Edd, fetch me a block", Jon chose to execute him from the get go, there was no "oh shit it's about to get real" moment. Still thought the scene was really well done nonetheless. Everything was there, from Alliser's hesitation to Stannis's approval.

Really liked the introduction to the scene too, the toilet jokes may sounds like a random joke at first, but it's actually a warning to both Janos and Alliser that's he's not a petty bitch and will try to do whats best for the watch. Alliser acknowledges this, Janos fails to see it. Alliser steps out of the way, realising that there is nothing to gain from protected him. Really well done.

Probably Alliser will take Bowen Marsh role in the show though.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
April 27 2015 23:00 GMT
#11817
Why would he? Bowen Marsh is cast this season
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
April 27 2015 23:13 GMT
#11818
Really ? Though they would merge the roles, that's good then.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 28 2015 08:09 GMT
#11819
On April 28 2015 08:13 SpiZe wrote:
Really ? Though they would merge the roles, that's good then.

well someone needs to stab Jon, and all the nightswatchmen are either dead or cut.
We have Edd left, Sam who will leave, Allisair Thorne and Bowen Marsh, and the new kid introduced, Olly. If not for Marsh, Allisair thorne "betraying" Jon wouldnt be that much of a twist, now would it.

Even so, they will probably have to involve Edd or Olly (lol) to make it at least a bit dramatic, though that would be more of a parody for me, but let's see
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
April 28 2015 09:07 GMT
#11820
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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