EPTThe one who can correctly guess the plot elements of episode 9 will live in glory to the end of his days!
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fancyClown
65 Posts
The one who can correctly guess the plot elements of episode 9 will live in glory to the end of his days! | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18213 Posts
On April 22 2015 04:13 fancyClown wrote: How about a little contest? The one who can correctly guess the plot elements of episode 9 will live in glory to the end of his days! I think they will leave most of the happenings in the north for next season, meaning I don't think Jon will "die", and nor will the Battle of Winterfell happen yet (imho there is still too much to happen in the north to squash that into a single season). Cersei's walk of shame is probably Ep. 10. So my guess for Ep. 9 is that it has the Battle of Meereen, and Myrcella getting her face cut in half when Jaime and Bronn rescue her. | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
On April 21 2015 20:17 Geo.Rion wrote: and u're wrong on that. D&D and GRRM all confirmed that the show will in fact spoil the books, and it will finish sooner. it's a done deal, the show will tell the story first, and the ending is gonna be basically the same. how they get to the endgame is gonna be different enough so even non-hardcore fans are gonna care. I'm sure there will be spoilers. My view is 'similarities with sweeping changes', rather than 'remains basically the same'. Just what I think will happen. In the event that Martin doesn't finish ASOIAF, I would appreciate the latter. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18213 Posts
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r00ty
Germany1062 Posts
On April 21 2015 09:17 The_Red_Viper wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 21 2015 08:33 r00ty wrote: I think the show makes too many compromises to satisfy the audience (Bronn + Show Spoiler + Jaime/Ilyn Payne might have been my favorite chapters in the latter books -,- FACELESS men? But the audience loved that guy so here we go... Which to me weakens the House of Black and White story a lot. Overall it was really lame so far imho. Blasted through them between seasons one and two to find myself loosing all interest in the show after season two. Too much (imho) cool/important(???) stuff was let out. That notion only worsens by each episode. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic show, but atm i fear it might ruin the books (the whole story) for me. I mean, the producers know the end, so all of "that stuff" ("young Griff", Iron Islanders) maybe doesn't matter? I wish i would have never continued to watch the show atm.  It really depends what you mean with "it doesn't matter". (f)Aegon probably won't be Azor Ahai. No Iron Islander will sit on the Iron throne in the end. That doesn't mean that these characters aren't important though. They all play a particular role in the books, the show simply decided to get to these big plot points which will happen on a different route (the show only has so much time, they simply cannot do every single book arc, unless they would make more episodes, have more actors => a lot more money) Yeah you're right. About the show: It's not really about the resources i think but more about watchability. I agree, you just can't do what the books did: Basically disregard most of the story so far to start so many other different plot lines. Going back and forth in the timeline. A myriad of detailed characters. It just would be too confusing. But maybe they could have taken some more time. Another season or two to get where we are now would have been doable without watering it down too much. There's also still room for another season after that one, depends how far they'll go in all plot lines. My opinion may be influenced by hindsight now, but i didn't really buy into the Aegon and for some extend the Iron Islanders plots. It's more about spreading even more chaos and weakening the Seven Kingdoms i guess. Aegon imho won't play a major role. Grooming the perfect peoples king for a happy ending... Absolutely no way that's gonna happen!  Young Griff will go down. On a different note: What i completely missed in the show about Jon is that he has the gift as well doesn't he? All the "Stark" Kids do to some extend. Aryas wolf dreams etc. At least he's kind of a warg, or is my memory tainted? How his story goes i always felt that was really important. I mean either he somehow survives or he becomes what the wildling warg became, which was my first guess. I just remember, that I read the last two books way too fast, considering my understanding of english is far from perfect. Have to reread them soon. I'll also watch this season to the end. Of course, the best way would be to see both as completely different stories, but to me that's impossible. | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
On April 22 2015 04:39 Acrofales wrote: I think they will leave most of the happenings in the north for next season, meaning I don't think Jon will "die", and nor will the Battle of Winterfell happen yet (imho there is still too much to happen in the north to squash that into a single season). Cersei's walk of shame is probably Ep. 10. So my guess for Ep. 9 is that it has the Battle of Meereen, and Myrcella getting her face cut in half when Jaime and Bronn rescue her. Episode 9: -Doran and Jamie talk after the Myrcella fiasco -an imprisoned Cersei begs Kevan for help -Littlefinger and Margery talk politics -Olly stabs Jon in Ser Alliser's coup d'etat -Sansa manipulates Ramsay against someone who threatens her | ||
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l3loodraven
2753 Posts
i can't think of one example from the show directly implying it. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18213 Posts
On April 22 2015 08:19 l3loodraven wrote: jon definitely has warg attributes in the books. not as strong as bran or arya, and he might not be able to control it the way they can, but he certainly has some kind of warg relationship with ghost at least. Jon has at least as strong Warging abilities as Arya. Arya only "wargs" when dreaming. | ||
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l3loodraven
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
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saddaromma
1129 Posts
Where did Cercei send Mace Tyrell? | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On April 22 2015 08:26 l3loodraven wrote: she consciously wargs the cat in the house of black and white as a result of her sensory-deprivation training. What? I don't remember that at all. I recall her having wolf dreams of Nymeria leading a pack, but not willfully warging. I don't think she's done that; | ||
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DrStrangelove
Denmark18 Posts
On April 22 2015 17:50 Spaylz wrote: What? I don't remember that at all. I recall her having wolf dreams of Nymeria leading a pack, but not willfully warging. I don't think she's done that; After she kills the singer/bard from the Nights Watch, she is given a potion that makes her blind. She learns to use her other senses, and is continually attacked by someone she can't see. And every evening the kindly man asks her who is attacking her. One night she sees that is him - the kindly man, who is attacking her. She sees this through the eyes of a cat in the room. Ofcause Arya is not aware that she was warging the cat, but we as readers can see this. | ||
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l3loodraven
2753 Posts
to braavos, to negotiate with the iron bank...conveniently bringing meryn fucking trant within arya's reach. i wonder how arya gets him. my money's on needle through the eye like she promised the hound in season three...she would have to retrieve it first though which would be kind of awkward...also wonder what reason they'll have for getting her out of the house, i loved the cat of the canals stuff with the seals and funny whores but i'm not sure if it would translate super well to the screen, plus shooting arya walking all over braavos would be really expensive. also i will be outraged if arya doesn't call anyone a camel's cunt On April 22 2015 16:32 sumsaR wrote: they established it well enough with orell, but yeah im pretty sure a lot of show watchers are gonna find it surprising and potentially cheesy when it turns out all the starks are wargs.It's sad most if not all references to non-Bran warging from the books are absent from the tv show. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On April 22 2015 19:12 l3loodraven wrote: they established it well enough with orell, but yeah im pretty sure a lot of show watchers are gonna find it surprising and potentially cheesy when it turns out all the starks are wargs. I was refering to only the Stark skinchangers, and their connection to their direwolves. Hell, Jon ignoring his own ability to warg, turning down the red lady's offer to teach him about it (out of denial or stupidity?) and him ignoring Ghost's warning of getting all stabbed up seem like important things to leave out. But maybe that's just me. It's annoying Bran gets to be 'different' as the only Stark with a special connection to his direwolf, while the rest just got loyal pets. | ||
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Emon_
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 23 2015 00:00 Emon_ wrote: From talk in the thread, Uncat won't be making an apearance on the show. This is kind of a big deal since Book 4 ended with it and it was a nice twist. My guess is the resurrected Clegane will fight Brienne and win this time. Honestly don't think it's a big deal. In the books she hasn't done anything. I remember being shocked and wondering what would happen and still wonder lol, she's done very little. On April 22 2015 08:10 domane wrote: Episode 9: -Doran and Jamie talk after the Myrcella fiasco -an imprisoned Cersei begs Kevan for help -Littlefinger and Margery talk politics -Olly stabs Jon in Ser Alliser's coup d'etat -Sansa manipulates Ramsay against someone who threatens her I actually think most of this will happen except for the last part, No way Ramsay will ever be manipulated by a female xd. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2547 Posts
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fancyClown
65 Posts
- Arya is going on a trip to Oldtown together with Jaqen H'ghar who dies on the ship (replaces Sam and Aemon) - Bronn parts with Jamie and travels to the east to steal the dragons (replaces Quentyn Martell) - Jamie gets stabbed by angry Dornish (replaces John Snow) - John Snow finds a horn and joins the Iron Islands. He goes to the East to woo Dany (replaces Victarion) - Littlefinger is sent to the Riverlands to reestablish control (replaces Jamie) - Margaery gets accused of treachery and has to do the walk of shame (replaces Cersei) - Cersei travels to the East and announces to be the Mother of Dragons (replaces Danaerys) | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 23 2015 01:15 fancyClown wrote: Since the show is so fond of switching character roles, here is what is going to happen: - Arya is going on a trip to Oldtown together with Jaqen H'ghar who dies on the ship (replaces Sam and Aemon) - Bronn parts with Jamie and travels to the east to steal the dragons (replaces Quentyn Martell) - Jamie gets stabbed by angry Dornish (replaces John Snow) - John Snow finds a horn and joins the Iron Islands. He goes to the East to woo Dany (replaces Victarion) - Littlefinger is sent to the Riverlands to reestablish control (replaces Jamie) - Margaery gets accused of treachery and has to do the walk of shame (replaces Cersei) - Cersei travels to the East and announces to be the Mother of Dragons (replaces Danaerys) You should write for the Show :D | ||
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