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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
idk this scene really bothered me | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:05 Erasme wrote: Hmm, i thought the unsullied were like the romans/hoplites and yet they're not organised and don't even have shortswords ? Thats pretty bad for the 'best' soldiers idk this scene really bothered me The whole scene was pretty bad in terms of fighting. You are right, the Unsullied are supposed to be outstanding fighters, and let's face it, even though the Sons of the Harpy outnumbered them, they're still a bunch of guys wearing cloth and masks which honestly have to impair their line of sight quite a lot. That, and the Unsullied have been trained their entire life not only to fight, but not to feel pain. They've been condition not to react to pain. I think the real point of the scene was to show that Grey Worm is a badass, and Barristan slightly less so (he too is supposed to be a serious ass kicker). Other than that, it's a pretty lackluster and inconsistent scene. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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The Sons of the Harpy with those masks, and not uttering a single word were really spooky, and them slashing the Unsullied throats had some shock-value. If you re looking for authenticity, then ofc, it s bullshit, especially if you take into consideration the books description of Unsullied and Barristan. The unsullied withheld an entire Khalasar at some point in their history, being outnumbered like 5-1 or worse. the whole idea of Unsullied was that they dont feel pain, and dont care about being outnumbered. Barristan is the best warrior still alive, who demonstrated several times he can take down lots of enemies. We know he "cut a bloody line" through the ranks of the Blackfyre army to slay their leader, supposedly the last of that line. He single-handedly rescued Arys the Mad from a town which decided to capture the king. And he cut down the goldcloaks, when he didnt even have his own sword etc... And all of the above was against trained, armored warriors. So yeah... but I can accept these kind of changes in the show, people need entertainment, and ignoring the background info we have, it was a good scene | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On April 15 2015 07:36 Irrelevant Label wrote: I'd like to think that I can watch/handle absolutely anything. That said, some things need more than a spoiler tag and this comment is one of them. That is one of those not safe for life visualizations. Edit: Not sure why I spoiler tagged this originally. that random comment is not NSFL lol have you been on the internet much? | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:14 Geo.Rion wrote: Yes, but TV-wise it makes sense. + Show Spoiler + The Sons of the Harpy with those masks, and not uttering a single word were really spooky, and them slashing the Unsullied throats had some shock-value. If you re looking for authenticity, then ofc, it s bullshit, especially if you take into consideration the books description of Unsullied and Barristan. The unsullied withheld an entire Khalasar at some point in their history, being outnumbered like 5-1 or worse. the whole idea of Unsullied was that they dont feel pain, and dont care about being outnumbered. Barristan is the best warrior still alive, who demonstrated several times he can take down lots of enemies. We know he "cut a bloody line" through the ranks of the Blackfyre army to slay their leader, supposedly the last of that line. He single-handedly rescued Arys the Mad from a town which decided to capture the king. And he cut down the goldcloaks, when he didnt even have his own sword etc... And all of the above was against trained, armored warriors. So yeah... but I can accept these kind of changes in the show, people need entertainment, and ignoring the background info we have, it was a good scene In real life you don't have a power level and win every fight. There's a lot which goes into it. The unsullied are spearmen meant for open fields. They are meant to stop charges on foot or on horse and are not very good at close quarters. The sons of the harpy have daggers which are very good for surprise attacks and alleyway fights. They have the advantage of knowing the terrain, knowing the people and also the advantage of attacking first. Now, if the unsullied were to form a phalanx in the middle of the desert and the unsullied were to charge them with their butter knives then the sons would be absolutely massacred. Positioning, positioning, positioning. | ||
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fancyClown
65 Posts
Episode 9: Cersei's walk of shame The stabbing of John Snow 'Battle' at Winterfell, Sansa escapes with Theon Episode 10: John is resurrected Trial by combat for Cersei Varys kills Littlefinger in KL Dany tames the dragon | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On April 16 2015 01:09 fancyClown wrote: + Show Spoiler [End of season predictions] + Episode 9: Cersei's walk of shame The stabbing of John Snow 'Battle' at Winterfell, Sansa escapes with Theon Episode 10: John is resurrected Trial by combat for Cersei Varys kills Littlefinger in KL Dany tames the dragon + Show Spoiler + I don't think the show will be bold enough to do Jon Snow resurrection spoiler this season or other big next book spoilers. I think as of right now they will only do minor stuff and changes and maybe things that would spoil book readers for the book after next as there is no chance in hell of Martin getting the book after out in time. For now the next book is on the horizon and I don't think they want to spoil stuff that is going to be in that one. I could be wrong but I don't see it happening this season. Next season will be the big one with book spoilers all over the place. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On April 16 2015 00:32 Hyperbola wrote: In real life you don't have a power level and win every fight. There's a lot which goes into it. The unsullied are spearmen meant for open fields. They are meant to stop charges on foot or on horse and are not very good at close quarters. The sons of the harpy have daggers which are very good for surprise attacks and alleyway fights. They have the advantage of knowing the terrain, knowing the people and also the advantage of attacking first. Now, if the unsullied were to form a phalanx in the middle of the desert and the unsullied were to charge them with their butter knives then the sons would be absolutely massacred. Positioning, positioning, positioning. they didnt have any positionning at all pretty terrible for a highly trained army and again, the lack of shortswords in a city | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
On April 16 2015 01:09 fancyClown wrote: + Show Spoiler [End of season predictions] + Episode 9: Cersei's walk of shame The stabbing of John Snow 'Battle' at Winterfell, Sansa escapes with Theon Episode 10: John is resurrected Trial by combat for Cersei Varys kills Littlefinger in KL Dany tames the dragon + Show Spoiler + None of your episode 10 stuff is going to happen this season guaranteed. None of that stuff has happened in the books, they're not going to surpass the books this year | ||
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fancyClown
65 Posts
On April 16 2015 02:36 KOFgokuon wrote: + Show Spoiler + None of your episode 10 stuff is going to happen this season guaranteed. None of that stuff has happened in the books, they're not going to surpass the books this year + Show Spoiler [reply to reply to 'End of season…] + So what are your predictions for ep9 and ep10? It would be weird if John Snow gets stabbed and then one year later at season start gets resurrected. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On April 16 2015 02:59 fancyClown wrote: + Show Spoiler [reply to reply to 'End of season…] + So what are your predictions for ep9 and ep10? It would be weird if John Snow gets stabbed and then one year later at season start gets resurrected. + Show Spoiler + Well for one, we don't know that Jon will be resurrected. Yes, it's likely, but we don't know how it will happen. My bet would be something involving Ghost and warging. But either way, I don't find it that strange. Is it really that different from killing Tywin at the end of S4 and burying him a year later? | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:16 jinorazi wrote: My guess is there will be no uncat? That shit made me read till 4am on a work day That should end the season IMO.. Such a mindfuck!! | ||
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saddaromma
1129 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:16 jinorazi wrote: My guess is there will be no uncat? That shit made me read till 4am on a work day + Show Spoiler + They've already confirmed, no uncat in tv series. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
Also, cannot wait for Robert Strong. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On April 16 2015 06:42 Sent. wrote: Targaryens have an unexplained connection to dragons but certainly it's not warg stuff/old gods magic. And even if you're a Targaryen you still need to learn how to ride dragons, it's not a "built-in" skill. How do you know it's not Warging? Doesn't it make sense, given the fact that Dragons are giant brutal creatures that will eat you alive? You can't just ride them like a horse, you need to take control of their actions fully. Fly there, breathe fire here. Same as John and his direwolf except on a massive scale. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 16 2015 06:46 Hyperbola wrote: How do you know it's not Warging? Doesn't it make sense, given the fact that Dragons are giant brutal creatures that will eat you alive? You can't just ride them like a horse, you need to take control of their actions fully. Fly there, breathe fire here. Same as John and his direwolf except on a massive scale. GRRM said it. I personally think it was blood magic (fire and blood) | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On April 15 2015 22:55 hariooo wrote: that random comment is not NSFL lol have you been on the internet much? Sarcasm via hyperbole first, but secondly the image does not even begin to make it bad. The image alone is just Cunnilingus, (oh noes hide the children!) so the comparison to all the wonderful things that there are to see on the internet isn't very relevant. It is about the characters and background in the story making it a thoroughly fucked up event. On April 16 2015 01:09 fancyClown wrote: + Show Spoiler [End of season predictions] + Episode 9: Cersei's walk of shame The stabbing of John Snow 'Battle' at Winterfell, Sansa escapes with Theon Episode 10: John is resurrected Trial by combat for Cersei Varys kills Littlefinger in KL Dany tames the dragon + Show Spoiler + Oh come on, let the show watchers endure a summer through winter of thinking Jon might have died. Varys kills LF is a bold one. I don't think we know enough about where things are going to assume LF could be expendable as a role merge with Kevan. They also went through the trouble of re-introducing Kevan and the conflict of his role in a post Tywin power structure. I think he might keep his spot from the books. On April 16 2015 06:42 Sent. wrote: Targaryens have an unexplained connection to dragons but certainly it's not warg stuff/old gods magic. And even if you're a Targaryen you still need to learn how to ride dragons, it's not a "built-in" skill. Quite to the contrary, between Ben Plumm's interactions with Dany's dragons and the whole thing with the dragon seeds during the Dance there is clearly a degree of built in genetic affinity with dragons. Mastering one is not a sure thing, of course. Being able to master one on account of genetics, and perhaps having some degree of a "+dragon disposition racial bonus", seems to be in place. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
This guy who's said he likes the show gave me a low B on a paper about character development in a movie. For the next paper, I'm going to spoil the fuck out of the books for him. I'm going to find a way to fit in as many as I can and keep it germane to the 2nd paper's topic. I'm stuck getting a B in the class unless I get a really high A or a really low grade (which ill fight him over if i do) | ||
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