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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 15 2015 22:43 GMT
#11721
If warging plays a role, how does that connect the folks that do have warging? I don't recall any historical background unless grrm left that out on purpose
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 15 2015 23:50 GMT
#11722
On April 16 2015 07:14 tshi wrote:
MAN, FUCK MY ENGLISH PROFESSOR.

This guy who's said he likes the show gave me a low B on a paper about character development in a movie. For the next paper, I'm going to spoil the fuck out of the books for him. I'm going to find a way to fit in as many as I can and keep it germane to the 2nd paper's topic.

I'm stuck getting a B in the class unless I get a really high A or a really low grade (which ill fight him over if i do)

Why do you care about grades in college? Are you planning on going to grad school?
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 16 2015 00:00 GMT
#11723
On April 16 2015 08:50 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:14 tshi wrote:
MAN, FUCK MY ENGLISH PROFESSOR.

This guy who's said he likes the show gave me a low B on a paper about character development in a movie. For the next paper, I'm going to spoil the fuck out of the books for him. I'm going to find a way to fit in as many as I can and keep it germane to the 2nd paper's topic.

I'm stuck getting a B in the class unless I get a really high A or a really low grade (which ill fight him over if i do)

Why do you care about grades in college? Are you planning on going to grad school?

Good question! No. I'm graduating in 4 weeks. I figure that I can do shit like this cuz I already have some ideas of what Im going to do after school. I can just fuck with people for now.

It's more of an ego thing. My ego is so big that I deserve to get a higher grade. I remind myself of people on here who blame losses on other people or the balance. RIP Idra
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 16 2015 00:00 GMT
#11724
On April 16 2015 07:14 tshi wrote:
MAN, FUCK MY ENGLISH PROFESSOR.

This guy who's said he likes the show gave me a low B on a paper about character development in a movie. For the next paper, I'm going to spoil the fuck out of the books for him. I'm going to find a way to fit in as many as I can and keep it germane to the 2nd paper's topic.

I'm stuck getting a B in the class unless I get a really high A or a really low grade (which ill fight him over if i do)

Ever consider that the reason you got a B might be because you deserved it and not because the Professor is some asshole? Instead you're going to be an asshole yourself by intentionally spoiling things for people?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2015 00:03 GMT
#11725
Could you guys discuss this somewhere else? This is slightly off-topic tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 00:06:45
April 16 2015 00:06 GMT
#11726
mod delete plz
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
April 16 2015 11:33 GMT
#11727
On April 16 2015 07:14 tshi wrote:
MAN, FUCK MY ENGLISH PROFESSOR.

This guy who's said he likes the show gave me a low B on a paper about character development in a movie. For the next paper, I'm going to spoil the fuck out of the books for him. I'm going to find a way to fit in as many as I can and keep it germane to the 2nd paper's topic.

I'm stuck getting a B in the class unless I get a really high A or a really low grade (which ill fight him over if i do)

Lol. Or maybe he didn't fall for your blatant pandering and took the paper at face value, saw it was lacking in depth and gave you the grade you deserved.

Now I secretly hope he fails you just for acting like an entitled douchebag.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 16 2015 20:25 GMT
#11728
good to see the hipocritical wananbe-on-moral-highground attitude and the geneal negativity is still as high as ever here at TL.net
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
April 16 2015 21:38 GMT
#11729
On April 17 2015 05:25 Geo.Rion wrote:
good to see the hipocritical wananbe-on-moral-highground attitude and the geneal negativity is still as high as ever here at TL.net


Not sure what you're talking about. That tshi person is obviously a moron.

Anyway. This is an ASoIaF topic so... seriously, was no on else upset that they cut (no pun intended) "Edd, fetch me a block"? I was seriously looking forward to that line.
I like words.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 22:12:51
April 17 2015 04:57 GMT
#11730
+ Show Spoiler +
Remember how Cersei threatened Littlefinger's life in season 1? She was ready to kill him if he stepped out of line.

Littlefinger is also following in Ned's footsteps - traveling from Winterfell to King's Landing - and it cannot bode well for him.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 17 2015 08:22 GMT
#11731
On April 17 2015 05:25 Geo.Rion wrote:
good to see the hipocritical wananbe-on-moral-highground attitude and the geneal negativity is still as high as ever here at TL.net

I know lol. That guy from Brazil really went off on me for no reason.


Anyway, not to derail the thread, I guess seeing that Balon is still alive makes me think that thery're going to fold in the greyjoy uncles into balon so that they dont have to cast new people since they seem to have gave 0 shits about the iron born.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
fancyClown
Profile Joined April 2015
65 Posts
April 17 2015 08:37 GMT
#11732
+ Show Spoiler +
The fact that they leave out Quentyn, Victarion, Aegon, Marwyn, etc. makes me kinda sad.
Having all the diverse storylines cumulate in Meereen was the highlight of ADWD for me.
I mean streamlining the story for the show is OK to some degree, it just seems that it thereby loses a lot of complexity.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 18 2015 00:30 GMT
#11733
On April 17 2015 17:37 fancyClown wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The fact that they leave out Quentyn, Victarion, Aegon, Marwyn, etc. makes me kinda sad.
Having all the diverse storylines cumulate in Meereen was the highlight of ADWD for me.
I mean streamlining the story for the show is OK to some degree, it just seems that it thereby loses a lot of complexity.


+ Show Spoiler +

that reminds me, i recall tyrion meeting jorah through the slave master. since they meet already, i assume they're skipping that whole story? or am i remembering things wrong, they get caught together later or something?

tv show is confusing my timeline like crazy.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 00:40:04
April 18 2015 00:35 GMT
#11734
+ Show Spoiler +
jorah abducts tyrion and then they are caught by slavers while sailing with moqorro. i believe they will still be enslaved on the show because its a crucial piece of development for both that shouldn't take up too much screen time. moqorro is doubtful imo.

looks like everything about the unrest and potential slave uprising in volantis is out, which is unfortunate but understandable.
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 18 2015 03:02 GMT
#11735
On April 17 2015 17:37 fancyClown wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The fact that they leave out Quentyn, Victarion, Aegon, Marwyn, etc. makes me kinda sad.
Having all the diverse storylines cumulate in Meereen was the highlight of ADWD for me.
I mean streamlining the story for the show is OK to some degree, it just seems that it thereby loses a lot of complexity.


+ Show Spoiler +
Complexity isn't necessarily good. ASoIaF's incredible complexity is actually one of the biggest points of criticism of the series.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
April 18 2015 04:01 GMT
#11736
On April 18 2015 12:02 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 17:37 fancyClown wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The fact that they leave out Quentyn, Victarion, Aegon, Marwyn, etc. makes me kinda sad.
Having all the diverse storylines cumulate in Meereen was the highlight of ADWD for me.
I mean streamlining the story for the show is OK to some degree, it just seems that it thereby loses a lot of complexity.


+ Show Spoiler +
Complexity isn't necessarily good. ASoIaF's incredible complexity is actually one of the biggest points of criticism of the series.

Its complexity comes in its length and sheer number of characters, i personally love how long the books are
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
April 18 2015 04:25 GMT
#11737
I think one of the more complex (and enjoyable) aspects of the books is the foreshadowing. GRRM really loves it and he does it rather well. It adds so many layers to the whole series.
I like words.
fancyClown
Profile Joined April 2015
65 Posts
April 18 2015 09:12 GMT
#11738
On April 18 2015 12:02 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 17:37 fancyClown wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The fact that they leave out Quentyn, Victarion, Aegon, Marwyn, etc. makes me kinda sad.
Having all the diverse storylines cumulate in Meereen was the highlight of ADWD for me.
I mean streamlining the story for the show is OK to some degree, it just seems that it thereby loses a lot of complexity.


+ Show Spoiler +
Complexity isn't necessarily good. ASoIaF's incredible complexity is actually one of the biggest points of criticism of the series.

I wouldn't say that it is the complexity the criticism is directed to.
I mean the first book was fairly complex in a good way.

What people are complaining about is artifical complexity that comes about by just introducing additional characters that do not add up to a coherent story.
It's the coherency of the first books that is less pronounced in the latter ones.

The TV show seems to be dealing with this by going in the opposite direction.
To ensure coherency, they make the story less complex.
This is not a desired result in my opinion.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 09:23:56
April 18 2015 09:19 GMT
#11739
On April 17 2015 05:25 Geo.Rion wrote:
good to see the hipocritical wananbe-on-moral-highground attitude and the geneal negativity is still as high as ever here at TL.net

I hope you realize you could be accused of doing the same thing. But hey, how dare someone not be a dick, right?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 18 2015 09:59 GMT
#11740
On April 18 2015 18:12 fancyClown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 12:02 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On April 17 2015 17:37 fancyClown wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The fact that they leave out Quentyn, Victarion, Aegon, Marwyn, etc. makes me kinda sad.
Having all the diverse storylines cumulate in Meereen was the highlight of ADWD for me.
I mean streamlining the story for the show is OK to some degree, it just seems that it thereby loses a lot of complexity.


+ Show Spoiler +
Complexity isn't necessarily good. ASoIaF's incredible complexity is actually one of the biggest points of criticism of the series.

I wouldn't say that it is the complexity the criticism is directed to.
I mean the first book was fairly complex in a good way.

What people are complaining about is artifical complexity that comes about by just introducing additional characters that do not add up to a coherent story.
It's the coherency of the first books that is less pronounced in the latter ones.

The TV show seems to be dealing with this by going in the opposite direction.
To ensure coherency, they make the story less complex.
This is not a desired result in my opinion.

I don't think the additional characters create an incoherent story tbh. It slows down the main storyline though, which in my book isn't all that bad.
The TV series is probably less coherent, even though they miss a lot of the details and complexity
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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