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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On April 14 2015 01:48 saddaromma wrote: I find Daario uninteresting and rather unimpactful in grand scheme. why the fuss about him. at least in the books I felt like they gave the impression he is the single greatest fighter in asoiaf. Better than Barristan, Rhaegar, Young Robert etc Also + Show Spoiler + how the fuck did some sons of the harpy kill Barristan thats bull | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On April 14 2015 04:10 Cricketer12 wrote: at least in the books I felt like they gave the impression he is the single greatest fighter in asoiaf. Better than Barristan, Rhaegar, Young Robert etc Also + Show Spoiler + how the fuck did some sons of the harpy kill Barristan thats bull In a fight, a bunch of peasants can kill even the greatest of knights. Simple numbers. If they attack at once you'll probably slice one up while the other sticks you in the back with a pitchfork. Same with stray arrows or crossbow bolts. You might ba a good duelist but a battle is very, very far from a duel. + Show Spoiler + Plus, he was a grandpa way past his prime. What do you expect? | ||
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saddaromma
1129 Posts
^harpies aren't pussies like peasants. They go all-in. Imagine you 1v5 and they all rush you with 5rax marine. spoilerd. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On April 14 2015 06:07 saddaromma wrote: ^harpies aren't pussies like peasants. They go all-in. Imagine you 1v5 and they all rush you with 5rax marine. best analogy NA | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 14 2015 06:12 Yhamm wrote: can't even read this thread now with so many people talking about the leaked episodes... and without even spoilers tags. worst idea ever to allow ppl to talk about them :/ funny, i read through the last 10 pages and everyone who spoke about something specific to season 5 episode 2-4 used spoilers, which was fairly stupid imo, but w/e. The non-spoilered stuff is all book related or general musings, like can peasants take down a trained warrior. The biggest show "spoiler" in the last 10 pages was "harpies go all-in". But i guess u re here just to complain, so carry on. | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On April 14 2015 06:22 Geo.Rion wrote: But i guess u re here just to complain, so carry on. oh right, that's totally me! you got me there! On April 13 2015 23:45 SixStrings wrote: Oh my GOD! Just watching Episode 3, Sansa is supposed to marry Ramsay? I'm getting sick... oh wait... "episode 3" maybe I wasn't only there to complain after all... | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On April 14 2015 06:22 Geo.Rion wrote: funny, i read through the last 10 pages and everyone who spoke about something specific to season 5 episode 2-4 used spoilers, which was fairly stupid imo, but w/e. The non-spoilered stuff is all book related or general musings, like can peasants take down a trained warrior. The biggest show "spoiler" in the last 10 pages was "harpies go all-in". But i guess u re here just to complain, so carry on. There was a mention of + Show Spoiler + Sansa has become Jeyne Pool for the show On white knights- + Show Spoiler + It is a reasonable sized "if" for if Barristan died. If he wasn't an old guy then I'd say there is no way that would prove mortal. As-is, it is mostly about balancing the dubious injuries with the fact that they took the time to show gray worm saving him from a fatal blow. He doesn't seem like the type who would go down until a few months or so after his heart stopped beating when he still has a duty to attend to, and Dany isn't anywhere near secure. Getting hamstrung and a shiv to the side of the lower back put him in shock? What kind of Barristan is this? On character (reverse?) assassination- + Show Spoiler + Broken Tyrion is a pretty different person in the show. We've already seen a huge difference in behavior at the brothel. Not-quite-rape scene turned polite, charming and when it came down to it he was unable to bring himself to even use a slave whore? Is there a "gave up on the world" vs. "gave up on himself" switch going on here, or am I getting way off? | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On April 14 2015 07:24 Yhamm wrote: oh right, that's totally me! you got me there! oh wait... "episode 3" maybe I wasn't only there to complain after all... Yeah I also jumped in here to see what my fellow book-readers thought of the show's direction in the first episode and was treated to unspoilered conversation about leaked episodes. No big deal, I suppose, since I have read the books, but things such as Sansa's storyline would still have been a surprise considering the degree of the deviation. I blame HBO for this more than the forumgoers, people can't really control themselves when it comes to content they want to consume. But why HBO felt it was necessary, or even helpful, to send out episodes in advance for reviews boggles the mind. | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On April 14 2015 07:41 ZasZ. wrote: Yeah I also jumped in here to see what my fellow book-readers thought of the show's direction in the first episode and was treated to unspoilered conversation about leaked episodes. No big deal, I suppose, since I have read the books, but things such as Sansa's storyline would still have been a surprise considering the degree of the deviation. I blame HBO for this more than the forumgoers, people can't really control themselves when it comes to content they want to consume. But why HBO felt it was necessary, or even helpful, to send out episodes in advance for reviews boggles the mind. and I'm blaming mods who allowed it to happen :/ I thought it was safe to read with so many spoiler tag but it was not | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
Roose got all he needed from Littlefinger.. Littlefinger just became a liability and the marriage has a price ...Roose should kill him now before there are any surprises. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
You know I'm real disappointed with the house of black and white. It's just... not very... atmospheric. It seems so plain. So basic. Anyone else share this sentiment? | ||
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saddaromma
1129 Posts
On April 14 2015 12:21 Hyperbola wrote: + Show Spoiler + You know I'm real disappointed with the house of black and white. It's just... not very... atmospheric. It seems so plain. So basic. Anyone else share this sentiment? + Show Spoiler + I think the way they depicted it was very fitting. House of black&white is sort of underground organization who don't seek any power or money. It would be odd if they had some epic building or interior, and it doesn't go inline with faceless god. If anything we could complain about lack of people. But its very minor issue. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On April 14 2015 05:21 Hyperbola wrote: In a fight, a bunch of peasants can kill even the greatest of knights. Simple numbers. If they attack at once you'll probably slice one up while the other sticks you in the back with a pitchfork. Same with stray arrows or crossbow bolts. You might ba a good duelist but a battle is very, very far from a duel. + Show Spoiler + Plus, he was a grandpa way past his prime. What do you expect? + Show Spoiler + yo bitch did u even read the books selmy has been in his prime his entire life | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On April 14 2015 13:04 hariooo wrote: + Show Spoiler + yo bitch did u even read the books selmy has been in his prime his entire life + Show Spoiler + Damn right. I agree. When Barristan left the Kingsguard and basically told Joffrey to go fuck himself, we learn that Cersei sent five goldcloaks after him to retrieve and imprison him. When we see him again at Dany's side, we also learn that he killed all five. If he can kill five goldcloaks wearing ringmail armors, he can kill five Sons of the Harpy wearing t-shirts. It's just that the guy who plays Selmy looks the part, but he's not as fit as book-Selmy. I don't blame him, I imagine very few old people would be. | ||
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saddaromma
1129 Posts
On April 14 2015 14:15 Spaylz wrote: + Show Spoiler + Damn right. I agree. When Barristan left the Kingsguard and basically told Joffrey to go fuck himself, we learn that Cersei sent five goldcloaks after him to retrieve and imprison him. When we see him again at Dany's side, we also learn that he killed all five. If he can kill five goldcloaks wearing ringmail armors, he can kill five Sons of the Harpy wearing t-shirts. It's just that the guy who plays Selmy looks the part, but he's not as fit as book-Selmy. I don't blame him, I imagine very few old people would be. Indeed very few. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://media1.santabanta.com/full1/Global%20Celebrities(M)/Sylvester%20Stallone/sylvester-stallone-1a.jpg) | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
So this is how we gonna write to each other the next 4-10 weeks, rofl | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
I'm not even trying to contribute, just wanted to see if anyone even clicks at these spoilers. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
We know that GRRM has stated that as far as the books are concerned, she is not immune. Her surviving the fire unscathed at the funeral pyre was a one-time magical event involving several factors. In the show though, I'm more tempted to say she actually is immune to fire, but I'm not sure. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18408 Posts
On April 14 2015 21:08 Spaylz wrote: Cross-asking my own question from the other thread: do you guys think that [in the show] Daenerys is immune to fire? We know that GRRM has stated that as far as the books are concerned, she is not immune. Her surviving the fire unscathed at the funeral pyre was a one-time magical event involving several factors. In the show though, I'm more tempted to say she actually is immune to fire, but I'm not sure. Why does it matter? She clearly has a high tolerance for heat (made clear in S1). However, immunity to fire cannot be decided one way or the other. Unless in episodes 2-4 something happens where she should be burnt to a cinder if she weren't, we simply don't have enough info. In Ep. 1, what we see is the dragons breathing fire all around her. She is clearly upset and seems afraid, but whether that fear is because she knows fire can burn her, or because she is (rightfully) afraid of out-of-control dragons, is up for interpretation. Talking about Ep. 1: they are clearly taking the battle for Winterfell in a very different direction than has been implied by ADwD. In general, killing Mance seemed quite unnecessary: he was a great character, and killing him seems more like a signal to the book readers that things are really going to be completely different than anything else. Second point: Sansa and Littlefinger leaving the Vale is silly. In fact, from the show point of view it doesn't make any sense at all. They go to the vale to escape. There they murder Lysa, and are actually pretty safe. So then they leave. Wtf. I know that Littlefinger consolidating political power was not the most riveting, and am glad they are thinking of something to do instead of that, but it has to make some kind of sense: why leave the Vale? The justification they give, that they are going somewhere that the Lannisters cannot get to them at all is utterly inane: that place is the Vale. | ||
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