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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 03:47:49
April 13 2015 03:24 GMT
#11621
Oh man, I'm loving and hating these new roads the show is taking in equal parts. Seems to go through the story compared to the books real fast though.


oh crap, stannis is awesome
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
April 13 2015 06:24 GMT
#11622
On April 13 2015 11:30 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:


+ Show Spoiler +
Barristan is a gerontobadassmotherfucker they cant kill him. He was pretty important in the mereenese plot as far as I remember... the producers of the show cant be crueler than GRRM can they??


+ Show Spoiler +
GRRM has said that there are too many PoVs and he has to kill some off. Barristan is probably a prime candidate. I half expect he doesn't survive the battle of Meereen. If he dies here, that deprives the show of his little knights of the round table/queenmaker run, but ultimately might not be so big a departure.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 07:11:29
April 13 2015 07:10 GMT
#11623
On April 13 2015 15:24 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 11:30 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:


+ Show Spoiler +
Barristan is a gerontobadassmotherfucker they cant kill him. He was pretty important in the mereenese plot as far as I remember... the producers of the show cant be crueler than GRRM can they??


+ Show Spoiler +
GRRM has said that there are too many PoVs and he has to kill some off. Barristan is probably a prime candidate. I half expect he doesn't survive the battle of Meereen. If he dies here, that deprives the show of his little knights of the round table/queenmaker run, but ultimately might not be so big a departure.

Answer to the show discussion, also Twow spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +

Dont know what episode you all watched, but in the one that i've seen, Barristan was cut at his leg, and was stabbed in the abdomen with a small shiv. neither looked lethal at all, the son of the harpy moved in to slash his throat, since he obviously seen that he s not dead, then Grey Worm saved him, by taking out the SotH.
As to GRRM saying someone important will die who lives in the book, that might be him, but i doubt it, certainly wont die off-scene bleeding to death from a shiv-wound. I'd say its 60% likely that it s Bronn, other candidates are Barristan, Jorah, Alistair Thorn, or who knows really...
Plus i dont count Ser Meryn Trant who will obviously be killed towards the end of this season by Arya in Bravos, taking the place of Raff the Sweetling, but no way GRRM is referring to him.


Also i strongly suggest to lift this spoiler policy, obviously everyone watched it, or is smart enough to stay away if he really cares not to be spoiled, and it is making the discussion here really awkward.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 09:44:45
April 13 2015 09:27 GMT
#11624
so...so many changes..

Nearly all of them have been for the better so far.

+ Show Spoiler +
Brienne and Jaime's story looks far more interesting than in aFfC.

No Bran in sight (YES!).

Janos Slynt's death was delicious.

Barristan is a god. Hopefully not a dead one.

Tommen is baller of the universe.

Didn't like Tywin's funeral. Not ignoble enough.
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 09:31:20
April 13 2015 09:30 GMT
#11625
+ Show Spoiler +
- season 5 seem to go beyond Dance of dragons and contain major WoW spoilers.
- show makes Stannis very loveable, which unfortunately means one thing. He will die
- hope Barristan will die, that fight was to hollywodish, thats fucking one old man with no armor. However, I want Snow to live after he is stabbed.
- can't make sense about Sansa and Jaime storyline. Anyone can elobarate, whats changed, whats expected to happen in contrast to the books?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 13 2015 09:36 GMT
#11626
Also:

+ Show Spoiler +

I have a feeling Cersei will die this season. I was surprised she survived aFfC and given the accelerated pacing and the opening to the season I think her clock has run out.
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
April 13 2015 09:49 GMT
#11627
On April 13 2015 18:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Also:

+ Show Spoiler +

I have a feeling Cersei will die this season. I was surprised she survived aFfC and given the accelerated pacing and the opening to the season I think her clock has run out.

+ Show Spoiler +
Nah, we're running out of villains too fast. Besides, we already had glimpse on her savior - mountain clone, they wouldn't have bothered to show him for no reason.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 13 2015 10:06 GMT
#11628
On April 13 2015 18:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Also:

+ Show Spoiler +

I have a feeling Cersei will die this season. I was surprised she survived aFfC and given the accelerated pacing and the opening to the season I think her clock has run out.

+ Show Spoiler +
Unliekly... could be a big finisher, but we have to witness Myrcella's and Tommen's deaths first, we know from the prophecy that she will watch all of her children die, then will be killed by "the little brother" which is Tyrion, or in my read, Jamie. And before all that she has to have her walk of shame, and the trial by combat, featuring the revived Mountain. If they wanna fit all that in the remaninig 6 episode, we re gonna have Cersei in focus for like half of them remaining airtime. And there 0% for taht to happen, imo.
It's far more likely, if they re gonna spoil major death scene from the 6th book, it is gonna be Stannis's, or really numerous other candidates for the role.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 13 2015 10:16 GMT
#11629
On April 13 2015 18:30 saddaromma wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
- season 5 seem to go beyond Dance of dragons and contain major WoW spoilers.
- show makes Stannis very loveable, which unfortunately means one thing. He will die
- hope Barristan will die, that fight was to hollywodish, thats fucking one old man with no armor. However, I want Snow to live after he is stabbed.
- can't make sense about Sansa and Jaime storyline. Anyone can elobarate, whats changed, whats expected to happen in contrast to the books?

answers below
+ Show Spoiler +
- As i explained like a page before, Barristan isnt dead
- Sansa's storyline is the watered down, nonsensical fusion between the fake-Arya story from the 5th, and Sansa's bethrotal to Harry the heir, from the 6th book. LF reveals he s betting on Stannis, which makes no sense considering his actions up to now (series or books), but whatever, but ultimately wants the same thing as in the books. Have a strong grasp over the Vale, and to get the North's backing through Sansa, while the south is in dissaray. Ultimately, the whole shenanigans with Sansa are the buildup for LF's endgame, which gonna be similar, regardless of the story leading up to it that is 100% new stuff compared to the books.
- Jamie's storyline is less obvious, and way cooler, obviously he and Bronn are filling in for Ser Arys Oakheart. Im almost convinced he's gonna meet face to face with Doran and he'll let him go, but well, who knows. Also Bronn is gonna take one for the team, most likely ( But this one plotline is probably the most intriguing of the changes, I really dont know where Jamie will end up, and i think he somehow needs to start doubting/ hating Cersei, or maybe they will scrap that interaction in the show as well, i'm really curious about this one story.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
April 13 2015 10:18 GMT
#11630
^ty

+ Show Spoiler +
I can't remember well, but where did Jaime and Brienne go in the books?
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 13 2015 10:23 GMT
#11631
To the guy asking about the most badass character there ever is in the books, Victarion: Im pretty sure they said he aint coming until next season.
"NO" -Has
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 10:28:07
April 13 2015 10:23 GMT
#11632
On April 13 2015 19:18 saddaromma wrote:
^ty

+ Show Spoiler +
I can't remember well, but where did Jaime and Brienne go in the books?

In the books they are in the Riverlands, Jamie clearing up the remnants of the Stark rebellion, subduing Riverrun and the other castles that still stand, and he s told by Lancel (and by tyrion before his escape) that Cersei was cheating on him multiple times.

Meanwhile Brienne fights against random riff-raff, who have like the Hound's helm, and are playing outlaw in the Riverlands.She teams up with Robert's bastar, Gendry. She kills the outlaws, but gets captured by the Brotherhood without Banners, whom lost their leader, and their new one is Un-Cat, Lady Stonehart (revived Catlyn Stark). They tell her she needs to lure Jamie to them or they kill her, and that's where the story was left off in the books.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
April 13 2015 10:27 GMT
#11633
^ god, you managed to put 1/3 of book in two paragraphs ty
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
April 13 2015 10:35 GMT
#11634
Jesus, Euron's accent makes it so painfully obvious it's him... I'm considering this as the first book spoiler.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
April 13 2015 10:39 GMT
#11635
On April 13 2015 19:35 SixStrings wrote:
Jesus, Euron's accent makes it so painfully obvious it's him... I'm considering this as the first book spoiler.

what do you mean?
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 13 2015 10:46 GMT
#11636
On April 13 2015 19:35 SixStrings wrote:
Jesus, Euron's accent makes it so painfully obvious it's him... I'm considering this as the first book spoiler.

Not sure what u re talking about, is it the Daario= Euron theory? I really dont think that this was confirmed by the show in any way, or that it's true to begin with. Im quite sure it s not. Or are you talking about someone else?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
April 13 2015 10:49 GMT
#11637
On April 13 2015 19:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 18:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Also:

+ Show Spoiler +

I have a feeling Cersei will die this season. I was surprised she survived aFfC and given the accelerated pacing and the opening to the season I think her clock has run out.

+ Show Spoiler +
Unliekly... could be a big finisher, but we have to witness Myrcella's and Tommen's deaths first, we know from the prophecy that she will watch all of her children die, then will be killed by "the little brother" which is Tyrion, or in my read, Jamie. And before all that she has to have her walk of shame, and the trial by combat, featuring the revived Mountain. If they wanna fit all that in the remaninig 6 episode, we re gonna have Cersei in focus for like half of them remaining airtime. And there 0% for taht to happen, imo.
It's far more likely, if they re gonna spoil major death scene from the 6th book, it is gonna be Stannis's, or really numerous other candidates for the role.


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not so sure about Stannis' death, but it's about damn time they make him likeable. His character has been butchered for four seasons, with barely a few redeeming moments.

I still don't want him to die though
.
I like words.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
April 13 2015 11:51 GMT
#11638
On April 13 2015 19:46 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 19:35 SixStrings wrote:
Jesus, Euron's accent makes it so painfully obvious it's him... I'm considering this as the first book spoiler.

Not sure what u re talking about, is it the Daario= Euron theory? I really dont think that this was confirmed by the show in any way, or that it's true to begin with. Im quite sure it s not. Or are you talking about someone else?



He talks exactly like the Ironmen. And why else did they use a white actor when Daario should by rights be... Middle eastern?

I think the theory is sound and the show confirms it.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 13 2015 11:56 GMT
#11639
On April 13 2015 19:46 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 19:35 SixStrings wrote:
Jesus, Euron's accent makes it so painfully obvious it's him... I'm considering this as the first book spoiler.

Not sure what u re talking about, is it the Daario= Euron theory? I really dont think that this was confirmed by the show in any way, or that it's true to begin with. Im quite sure it s not. Or are you talking about someone else?

Euron only has one eye also where is Mr.Eko
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 13 2015 12:01 GMT
#11640
If anything the show confirms that Daario = Euron is completely bs
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