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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 13:53:15
April 12 2015 13:31 GMT
#11581
EPISODE 3

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THAT FUCKING NOD


10/10
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4633 Posts
April 12 2015 13:38 GMT
#11582
On April 12 2015 20:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Epsidoe 1 : 9.0-9.5 / 10

My only complaint is they gave no clues about the Mance roleswap prior to the burning, unless I missed them.

Other than that great episode. Lot better than I was expecting for this season.


I don't like to discuss the episode before it has aired officially, someone here might not want to read that, at least outside spoiler tags
+ Show Spoiler +

Exchange of look between Mance and Thormund. "Mance" being scared of fire. When previously he has been like "We are gonna light the biggest fire the noth has ever seen". Maybe not enough to be sure the whole Manceswap has been played but yeah
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 12 2015 13:52 GMT
#11583
On April 12 2015 22:38 0x64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 20:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Epsidoe 1 : 9.0-9.5 / 10

My only complaint is they gave no clues about the Mance roleswap prior to the burning, unless I missed them.

Other than that great episode. Lot better than I was expecting for this season.


I don't like to discuss the episode before it has aired officially, someone here might not want to read that, at least outside spoiler tags
+ Show Spoiler +

Exchange of look between Mance and Thormund. "Mance" being scared of fire. When previously he has been like "We are gonna light the biggest fire the noth has ever seen". Maybe not enough to be sure the whole Manceswap has been played but yeah


Ok I will respoil it in edit

You should do the same for the quote though as well.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9330 Posts
April 12 2015 14:32 GMT
#11584
Haha I forgot when exactly season 5 starts and now I see there are 4 episodes available. What are you doing HBO ? :D
You're now breathing manually
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 15:23:41
April 12 2015 15:03 GMT
#11585
Watched the 4 episodes, obviously lots of changes to the storylines. It s really sad to see how they watered down lots of plotlines, and cut very clever scenes, but kinda knew it was coming, On the plus side though, changes that i was cool with or liked even more than the books:

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Switching Loras and Margery as Cersei's scapegoats, makes more sense. in general Cersei is less idiotic than in the books, i felt Martin really overdid it, on how incompetent and stupid he made her out to be. Anyone could see from miles away she s ruining herself.
Bringing Bronn back, dat BAMF
Stannis - Shireen, in general i like what they re doing with Shireen
Giving Daario a bit of a backstory
Barristan's Rhaegar story



Changes i really hated:
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Arya's initiation to the HOBAW is dumb, like, cant really fathom how they thought this shit is better than the book version, in cost and in airtime wouldnt have taken up more, so it s really just a shit change.
Jon's election is lame. I know they had to shorten it, so i ll give em a pass, but it was lame.
Stannis has a bigger army than the Boltons and their allies. Really? Since when?
The whole Littlefinger storyline screams plotholes and contradictions. They kinda went back on the IronBank line as well, last season they already lost their support, and now the Bank is still intiating dealings with the Lannisters.
Sandsnakes are kinda underwhelming so far, considering they have to make up for Arianne's absence. Torturing and killing a person who came to you with information? Why exactly? Cuz he asked for money?
Brienne's saga makes no sense whatsoever.
Danny's justice delivery. Really dumb shit just to stir up problems.


Stuff that i liked in the show, in general:
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Prince Doran - well cast. Kevan as well, though he s the same actor they used so far, i think, just that now he has conversation lines.
Hotah's Axe
Bronn, did i say he s a BAMF?
Dragons are looking good
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Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
April 12 2015 15:15 GMT
#11586
On April 12 2015 22:20 excitedBear wrote:
Thoughts on the first 4 leaked episodes (don't read if you plan to watch the show):
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As expected, some huge deviations from the books:


Ser Barristan is killed by some sort of sect. Last time I checked Barristan was still alive in the books.




Just to comment on that one point in Episode 4 Season 5, just watched it:
+ Show Spoiler +
You actually see closeup the the fatal blow is prevented, imo that scene would not make sense if he dies from the other wounds. At least not immediatly. And you for sure did not see him die.
excitedBear
Profile Joined March 2015
Austria120 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 15:21:52
April 12 2015 15:19 GMT
#11587
+ Show Spoiler +
Honestly I don't know what they are going to do about the whole Meereenese act.
So far they haven't introduced any of the characters like Quentyn Martell, Aegon Targaeryen or Victarion Greyjoy.
For Ser Barristan, I had the feeling that he was fatally wounded. Would be kind of weird to bring him back after that big battle. I could be wrong.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 12 2015 15:22 GMT
#11588
Finished E4, can say I love this season.
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
April 12 2015 15:37 GMT
#11589
On April 13 2015 00:19 excitedBear wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Honestly I don't know what they are going to do about the whole Meereenese act.
So far they haven't introduced any of the characters like Quentyn Martell, Aegon Targaeryen or Victarion Greyjoy.
For Ser Barristan, I had the feeling that he was fatally wounded. Would be kind of weird to bring him back after that big battle. I could be wrong.

+ Show Spoiler [More Ep4 S5 talk] +
Well, at least I hope you are wrong as I would like to keep Barristan :D
But I agree that the wound is probably quite harsh, I just wanted to say that he is for me not dead yet. Imo seeing that Grey Worm rescues him from that throat slit indicates that he is still alive at the end of that episode.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9330 Posts
April 12 2015 15:44 GMT
#11590
oh lol spoilers in the spoiler thread... btw, will the GoT threads be merged after this season?
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
April 12 2015 15:45 GMT
#11591
On April 13 2015 00:44 Sent. wrote:
oh lol spoilers in the spoiler thread... btw, will the GoT threads be merged after this season?

Nah, I think we will keep both.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
April 12 2015 17:17 GMT
#11592
So this is how the show works around the complexity and spoilers from future books. They are moving through books 4 and 5 at an alarming rate, cutting off more content than expected and filling in the gaps with very simple alternatives.

Aside from changes to Sansa, Littlefinger, Jamie, "Aegon", and the Golden Company, I'm happy with how they eliminated/streamlined the rest for the TV show.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 19:00:17
April 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#11593
Well well well. I watched all four episodes, and I have to say, the quality is there.

+ Show Spoiler +
There are a LOT of changes. We are really starting to be in the dark, about as much as show watchers here. I don't think Barristan died, but he's definitely wounded and out of commission. Possibly the same for Grey Worm as well. I truly don't think Barristan is dead though. I have to say, when I saw the fight go down and they showed Barristan headed toward the scene, I was like "hmm... will they actually show him fighting?"

I couldn't really tell if it was a stuntman or the actor doing it, but his fighting seemed pretty sloppy. In the books, Barristan is supposed to have killed five men in King's Landing when they sent the goldcloaks after him. It's not disappointing though, realistically, Barristan fighting was never going to live up to the books. Grey Worm is a badass though!

The entire arc about Littlefinger/Sansa/Ramsay completely took me by surprise. I was not expecting it at all, and I don't know how to feel about it to be quite honest. On some points, it makes sense, but in the larger sense, it really doesn't. Littlefinger wouldn't go anywhere near the Boltons, they're far too dangerous and unpredictable. Especially Ramsay. I'm interested to see where it goes. They're seriously setting it up as Sansa being thrown in a pit of snakes, and charming her way out of it somehow. It certainly gave me the impression that they want the viewer to think Sansa is going to outsmart them all. If that happens, I'll be pretty disappointed, because Sansa would never, ever outmaneuver Roose. Not in a million years. Something tells me Reek/Theon has a part to play in that.

ALSO WHAT THE HELL!!!! HOW COULD THEY CUT OUT "Edd, fetch me a block"???!!! COME ON, GUYS! FIRST NO "Only Cat", AND THEN NO THAT EITHER? AAAARRRRGHH!!! /rantover


Anywho... great stuff. Looking forward to the rest. There are rumours of more episodes being leaked, but I don't know about that. Seems unlikely.
I like words.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
April 12 2015 19:31 GMT
#11594
so first four episodes released watched the first already + Show Spoiler +
really surprised no Arya, the fact that it seems that Tormund is swapped with Mance
starting 2 now lets see if its good
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5860 Posts
April 12 2015 19:35 GMT
#11595
So does the new season spoil TWoW? If so, is it bad? I am still undecided... :<
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
April 12 2015 19:38 GMT
#11596
On April 13 2015 04:35 maybenexttime wrote:
So does the new season spoil TWoW? If so, is it bad? I am still undecided... :<


It's hard to say. The show is veering off in a completely different direction for so many arcs already. I would say it's better to watch, the books will give you something much deeper and possibly radically different anyway.
I like words.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
April 12 2015 20:26 GMT
#11597
On April 13 2015 04:35 maybenexttime wrote:
So does the new season spoil TWoW? If so, is it bad? I am still undecided... :<

no but I saw picture frames from when they were still filming what was certainly the final episode + Show Spoiler +
it was the horror of the pits and tyrion was seen with dany
that was still from Dance but it was radically changed
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 20:29:40
April 12 2015 20:26 GMT
#11598
On April 13 2015 04:38 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:35 maybenexttime wrote:
So does the new season spoil TWoW? If so, is it bad? I am still undecided... :<


It's hard to say. The show is veering off in a completely different direction for so many arcs already. I would say it's better to watch, the books will give you something much deeper and possibly radically different anyway.

Judging by the amount of story progression already, I think the last episodes will spoil some of TWOW.

But it'd be hard to know what exactly is being spoiled, if these episodes are of any indication.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
April 12 2015 21:26 GMT
#11599
the ending scene in episode 3 + Show Spoiler +
pissed me off so much in the books and here, Golden Company/Varys would have been far more interesting than Jorah's prisoner


also I find that the four more dangerous and powerful men in thrones are Tyrion Varys Baelish and Bolton, + Show Spoiler +
now the latter two are working together!!!! WHAAAT
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
April 12 2015 21:30 GMT
#11600
Stuff that I have looked forward too and has delivered

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Doran Sansa/Littlefinger's deviation from books


Stuff that has disappointed

+ Show Spoiler +
They killed Tormund? By this I am referring to the roleswap fire death
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
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