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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
March 25 2015 11:56 GMT
#11561
Wouldn't it be nice if Arya rescues Jon or Sansa at some point by murdering the heck out of everyone only to be greeted with looks of terror from her former family? Then she can run away forever to become a proper faceless girl. What a fitting ending that would be.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18408 Posts
March 25 2015 12:16 GMT
#11562
Not sure Theon will end up in the same way. The whole Iron Islander plot line has been scrapped. Could be that Theon plays some part in overthrowing the Boltons both in the books as in the show, but after that it's possible Theon has some role in the Iron Islands plot that has been cut completely from the show.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-25 16:12:18
March 25 2015 16:10 GMT
#11563
Short clip of Arya at the House of Black and White from Jimmy Kimmel last night.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
March 26 2015 03:50 GMT
#11564
On March 25 2015 20:56 Hyperbola wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if Arya rescues Jon or Sansa at some point by murdering the heck out of everyone only to be greeted with looks of terror from her former family? Then she can run away forever to become a proper faceless girl. What a fitting ending that would be.


I go one further. I think it would be awesome if she wound up killing one of her siblings/cousin while carrying out her vengeance bloodbath or if one of them ends her. Let her go full circle. Besides, there are no good ends for members of house Stark.

How does one emigrate to Hot Bid's glorious new home (or was I late to notice that)?
excitedBear
Profile Joined March 2015
Austria120 Posts
April 01 2015 18:18 GMT
#11565
A Highly Scientific Analysis of GRRM's Progress on The Winds Of Winter
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18408 Posts
April 01 2015 19:28 GMT
#11566
On April 02 2015 03:18 excitedBear wrote:
A Highly Scientific Analysis of GRRM's Progress on The Winds Of Winter

Baseless conjecture more likely that ends in the same conclusion everybody else has been guessing at as well.
excitedBear
Profile Joined March 2015
Austria120 Posts
April 01 2015 19:32 GMT
#11567
On April 02 2015 04:28 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 03:18 excitedBear wrote:
A Highly Scientific Analysis of GRRM's Progress on The Winds Of Winter

Baseless conjecture more likely that ends in the same conclusion everybody else has been guessing at as well.

I don't think the article is written with the purpose in mind that people come along and take it seriously.
I find it actually quite funny.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
April 03 2015 17:38 GMT
#11568
Martin uploaded a new excerpt from The Winds of Winter:

Alayne
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
April 03 2015 21:17 GMT
#11569
+ Show Spoiler +

Dear math, cue the "darth sansa' meme to maximum. That read a bit like Cersei at times but for the humble and self-aware angle.

Hmm, so maybe LF wasn't collecting dragon banners after all. Doesn't change anything really, just a tidbit.

The reminder about Myranda's husband reeks of 'these books are too far apart' and 'I don't trust people to remember things'. I hope it is edited out.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-04 10:49:40
April 04 2015 10:49 GMT
#11570
On April 04 2015 02:38 domane wrote:
Martin uploaded a new excerpt from The Winds of Winter:

Alayne

Speculation:
+ Show Spoiler +
Am i the only one who got an eerie feeling that Harry the heir is gonna die like 2 chapters later in some deus ex machina, super unlikely mishap? I mean he looks to be a decent warrior and quite normal (that introductory sound-bite is whatever), and could shape things for Sansa to be normal and healthy, so i think he s just gonna die in like a tourney accident or his horse will trip when marching down the Bloody Gate or some shit
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 04 2015 10:51 GMT
#11571
On April 04 2015 06:17 Irrelevant Label wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Dear math, cue the "darth sansa' meme to maximum. That read a bit like Cersei at times but for the humble and self-aware angle.

Hmm, so maybe LF wasn't collecting dragon banners after all. Doesn't change anything really, just a tidbit.

The reminder about Myranda's husband reeks of 'these books are too far apart' and 'I don't trust people to remember things'. I hope it is edited out.

there were far bigger "i dont trust people to remember things" in the 4th and 5th, entire storylines reiminiced about in inner monolgoues and shit, i dont really mind that much
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 12:47:07
April 04 2015 16:28 GMT
#11572
On April 04 2015 19:49 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 02:38 domane wrote:
Martin uploaded a new excerpt from The Winds of Winter:

Alayne

Speculation:
+ Show Spoiler +
Am i the only one who got an eerie feeling that Harry the heir is gonna die like 2 chapters later in some deus ex machina, super unlikely mishap? I mean he looks to be a decent warrior and quite normal (that introductory sound-bite is whatever), and could shape things for Sansa to be normal and healthy, so i think he s just gonna die in like a tourney accident or his horse will trip when marching down the Bloody Gate or some shit

It would fit Sansa's bad luck with fiancees.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 01:06:32
April 06 2015 19:32 GMT
#11573
Littlefinger's intelligence, wealth, and cunning make him seem almost untouchable. His plans are too well-crafted.

He cannot take the Vale for his own so long as the great houses remain powerful, so he wants to drag them down. He plans to drain and and diminish their wealth and power, with the support of the merchants and lesser houses. Then he will be able to destroy the great houses by providing them loans and seizing their property when they cannot pay back the gold.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 06 2015 19:33 GMT
#11574
I just read Sansa's TWoW chapter. Really enjoyed it actually, but Arya's still the best thus far imo.
Forever Young
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 07 2015 09:04 GMT
#11575
On April 07 2015 04:33 sung_moon wrote:
I just read Sansa's TWoW chapter. Really enjoyed it actually, but Arya's still the best thus far imo.

asbolutely, the other 3 were more teasers/ build-up chapters, most likely the first ones from the respective characters in Twow, Arya's is absolutely an important and real chapter
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18408 Posts
April 07 2015 19:36 GMT
#11576
The intro video for the sand snakes is really terrible and seems to be catering to some teenage twilight public. WTF.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 13:52:56
April 12 2015 11:49 GMT
#11577
Epsidoe 1 : 9.0-9.5 / 10

+ Show Spoiler +
My only complaint is they gave no clues about the Mance roleswap prior to the burning, unless I missed them.


Other than that great episode. Lot better than I was expecting for this season.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 12 2015 11:59 GMT
#11578
knowing the show they probably just cut him out and make up an entirely weird and new storyline to resolve the issues from not having the swap
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 12 2015 12:44 GMT
#11579
Episode 2 was amazing as well. This is shaping up to be so much better than season 4 so far.
excitedBear
Profile Joined March 2015
Austria120 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 15:40:27
April 12 2015 13:20 GMT
#11580
Thoughts on the first 4 leaked episodes (don't read if you plan to watch the show):
+ Show Spoiler +
As expected, some huge deviations from the books:

Brienne and Podrick happen to meet Littlefinger and Sansa at an inn.
Jaqen H'ghar welcomes Arya in the House of Black and White in Braavos.
Littlefinger brings Sansa to the North to marry Ramsay Bolton. Reek and Sansa will likely meet.
Littlefinger is traveling back to King's Landing and is plotting with/against both Cersei and Bolton.
Littlefinger hints at R+L=J.
Jon Snow fires the arrow at Mance in the fire. No mention of the Rattleshirt reveal (yet).
No mention of the Iron Islands (yet).
Varys travels together with Tyrion all the way to Volantis without Aegon Targaryen.
It seems that Ser Jorah and Tyrion are heading directly to Meereen, likely Tyrion will later meet Daenerys.
Dany hasn't married Hizdar zo Loraq (yet).
Sam hasn't gone on a journey (yet). No mention of Oldtown.
Jaime doesn't go to Riverrun, he will visit the Sandsnakes instead. Guess who he will bring with him?
Ser Barristan is killed by some sort of sect. Last time I checked Barristan was still alive in the books.

A lot of these deviations seems to be streamlining the story and avoiding to introduce extra characters.
I'm not exactly mad about it. Though the show does feel A LOT different from the books now.
Also, things are progressing really fast.
It might be that we will easily get into Winds of Winter territory by the end of the season.

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