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[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 551
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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire Click Here for the spoiler-free thread. | ||
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Darpa
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On June 19 2014 13:04 Darpa wrote: So I just saw this history of Ice and fire released. Does that mean the next books is still years away? >< It's essentially been 99.9% guaranteed for a while that the show will catch up to the books before book 6 is released. George RR Martin has chosen to help work on the show to bring it to life and to make everything work with his thoughts from the following books. He knows he can't finish in time, so the best he can do is postpone it, and express his vision of what was going to be written in the books, into the TV show. He already has his first manuscripts finished, so the show shouldn't have lower quality just because the books aren't out yet. | ||
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SpiZe
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staceymarie123
Australia59 Posts
Also does Jojen die in the book, I can't remember for the life of me and my books are in Thailand so I can't check > ![]() | ||
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Geo.Rion
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On June 19 2014 15:36 staceymarie123 wrote: This might be the first book series that is spoiled by a tv show/movie. Also does Jojen die in the book, I can't remember for the life of me and my books are in Thailand so I can't check > ![]() Imo, yes he does, but we dont see it explicetly It's hinted at several times that he knows he s gonna die here, and after a while we stop seeing him, Bran just doesnt notice he s gone. And there s the theory that Bran was actually fed Jojen's blood by the Children, but that s a bit of a stretch, though there are some compelling arguments Also holy shit, till now people tried to look like they re non readers, but the Jon's parentage speculation is outright ridiculous, there s absolutely no fucking hint in the show, and since s1 Lyanna's name isnt even mentioned. And Sean Bean doesnt even look that "Stark" in the show, he actually has darkbrown hair, saying Jon and Arya resemble him the most in the show is fucking ludicrous. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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staceymarie123
Australia59 Posts
On June 19 2014 15:42 Geo.Rion wrote: Imo, yes he does, but we dont see it explicetly It's hinted at several times that he knows he s gonna die here, and after a while we stop seeing him, Bran just doesnt notice he s gone. And there s the theory that Bran was actually fed Jojen's blood by the Children, but that s a bit of a stretch, though there are some compelling arguments Also holy shit, till now people tried to look like they re non readers, but the Jon's parentage speculation is outright ridiculous, there s absolutely no fucking hint in the show, and since s1 Lyanna's name isnt even mentioned. And Sean Bean doesnt even look that "Stark" in the show, he actually has darkbrown hair, saying Jon and Arya resemble him the most in the show is fucking ludicrous. Ohhh ok, yeah my memory is so bad I even forgot that Prince Oberyn died! I was so confident he would win then I was crushed when he actually died. Where could I have a look at the arguments that he was fed the blood? I just want to see the reasoning behind that, would be interesting to know why people think that. I never got that impression. Wait people think Jon's mum is Lyanna? I didn't even get that in the book? or maybe I did and forgot. I need to re read them big time... | ||
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0x64
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Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
On June 19 2014 17:03 0x64 wrote: Yea, there is no possible way to get that from the show. No mention she was pregnant. Saying Robert could have been the father is a red herring from book spoilers. They know exactly what they want to say. Is there ever a mention she was pregnant in the books? I think people are jumping to conclusions here, I would have to rewatch season 1 to be sure but I think there are enough conversations between Robert & Ned about Lyanna that you could come up with some theories. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Also, we still do not know for sure that the theory is correct. GRRM and D&D like to troll, too. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
If he's really a Targ, shouldn't he be 'immune' to fire like Dany is? e: found an answer to my own question on some forum How can Jon be a Targaryen if he has a burned hand? Targaryens are not immune to fire. Aerion Brightflame died drinking wildfire. Aegon V and his son Duncan are thought to have died in a fire-related event at Summerhall. Rhaenyra was eaten by Aegon II's dragon, presumably roasted by fire before the dragon took a bite. Viserys died when he was crowned with molten gold. Dany suffered burns from the fire pit incident at the end of A Dance with Dragons. Finally, the author has stated outright that Targaryens are not immune to fire. Jon's burned hand does not mean he is ineligible to be part Targaryen. For more information about the myth of Targ fire immunity, see this thread. | ||
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staceymarie123
Australia59 Posts
On June 19 2014 17:25 Laurens wrote: In book 1, Jon gets burned pretty badly and his hand is hurting for ages. If he's really a Targ, shouldn't he be 'immune' to fire like Dany is? Why do people think he is Targarian? | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
One of the more popular theories about GoT. When Ned thinks back to the events of the tower of Joy, he often remembers Lyanna saying 'promise me Ned'. Speculation is that she was pregnant with Rhaegar's son (who kidnapped her and put her in the tower) and that this kid is Jon Snow, and she made Ned promise to keep this a secret, so he claims it's his own bastard son. Have a google on the topic, it's probably the most discussed theory in GoT. Him being part Stark, part Targ could also be an explanation of the title a song of ice and fire. | ||
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staceymarie123
Australia59 Posts
On June 19 2014 17:32 Laurens wrote: One of the more popular theories about GoT. When Ned thinks back to the events of the tower of Joy, he often remembers Lyanna saying 'promise me Ned'. Speculation is that she was pregnant with Rhaegar's son (who kidnapped her and put her in the tower) and that this kid is Jon Snow, and she made Ned promise to keep this a secret, so he claims it's his own bastard son. Have a google on the topic, it's probably the most discussed theory in GoT. Him being part Stark, part Targ could also be an explanation of the title a song of ice and fire. Yeah I will check that out it sounds really interesting. I have never heard of that theory but I don't really frequent many GoT forums. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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On June 19 2014 16:52 staceymarie123 wrote: Ohhh ok, yeah my memory is so bad I even forgot that Prince Oberyn died! I was so confident he would win then I was crushed when he actually died. Where could I have a look at the arguments that he was fed the blood? I just want to see the reasoning behind that, would be interesting to know why people think that. I never got that impression. Wait people think Jon's mum is Lyanna? I didn't even get that in the book? or maybe I did and forgot. I need to re read them big time... here s the Jojen theory http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/56772-jojen-reeds-fate-adwd-spoilers/ | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
On June 19 2014 21:13 c0ldfusion wrote: Wow even after the season is over with no new book yet this thread is still so active. Crazy It's only been 4 days ![]() | ||
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Geo.Rion
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Serejai
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On June 19 2014 23:00 Geo.Rion wrote: I teleported with prophet off the map Literally, i ve been gone from the map. When preesin F1 to find myself the camera went behind enemy's well ![]() Ok then. | ||
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esKq
France134 Posts
On June 19 2014 13:12 FiWiFaKi wrote: It's essentially been 99.9% guaranteed for a while that the show will catch up to the books before book 6 is released. George RR Martin has chosen to help work on the show to bring it to life and to make everything work with his thoughts from the following books. He knows he can't finish in time, so the best he can do is postpone it, and express his vision of what was going to be written in the books, into the TV show. He already has his first manuscripts finished, so the show shouldn't have lower quality just because the books aren't out yet. Are you serious ? He really intend to finish the story on TV ? To me this is colossal let down due to the mediocre quality of the show. When does the author stipulate such a thing ? | ||
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