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On June 16 2014 11:45 ObeseHydra wrote:
A decent season finale. Loved the twist with Brienne and the Hound, but hated the resolution of The Wall conflict. WTF was that? I know it's fast in the books, but Mance's army looked like was 20 people! Not to mention that Stanis was in Bravos on the show, lol. And no Lady Stone Heart?? I thought that would be tha last scene, instead of Arya going to Bravos.
And Peter Dinklage for the Emmy, please.
I'm guessing Stone Heart will be the opening scene of the next season. If they didn't do it like that there would be a pretty big gap between seeing Lady Stoneheart for the first time and having her confront Brienne.
I really enjoyed the finale. Peter Dinklage brought it as usually even if the meat of his scenes were trimmed down greatly (wtf no Tysha or spoiling Cersei-Lancel), the Hound was amazing (great to see range for him), and I thought the children of the forest were done well even if the fire was a bit hokey.
As for the 20 man Mance army it's pretty standard for this show to cut down on showing large armies or large battles so I don't really mind. It would have been better maybe if they had put some tents and stuff in the aerial shots, but obviously that's tough to do when they're supposed to be in a forest. I am curious about Val & co. plus no mention of the horn.
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Well,
1) no jojen paste apparently
2) thank you for confirming for me that Tywin didn't know/believe the incest thing.
3) Coldhands is apparently an unimportant character.
4) where ma stonehart, bish pls :<
5) Honestly, the Stannis reveal felt so...lackluster. They're just going to keep mangling him aren't they. :<
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I was going to say "Wtf? No LSH" But if you think about it, yeah good cliffhanger and all. But then what? Next season comes and she appears a couple of times at most? I think they remember pulling that shit off at the end of season 2 with the white walker army, everyone was like "holy shit here we go!" and then... a lot of things happnened... but not THAT. So, I can't really blame them. Enjoyed the episode tbh
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Jojen paste could still be part of the book. Such a blood sacrifice is exactly the sort of thing they'd cut from the show for time. Killing off Jojen now just means they wouldn't foreshadow whatever is coming Bran's way (if anything).
Though I thought that whole theory was a little far fetched.
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Oh shit we got trolled. No LSH, No Osha. WOW...
Trolled so hard....
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On June 16 2014 12:02 KadaverBB wrote:
Yeah I dont get the negativity, i thought it was really good.
But but.. that LSH hype.. nooooooooo
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On June 16 2014 12:20 Logo wrote:
Jojen paste could still be part of the book. Such a blood sacrifice is exactly the sort of thing they'd cut from the show for time. Killing off Jojen now just means they wouldn't foreshadow whatever is coming Bran's way (if anything).
Though I thought that whole theory was a little far fetched.
It makes it irrelevant either way.
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the lack of LSH really gets me hard... I mean that would be a reveal that would last for ages. 1 year of non-book viewers talking about here and shit..
The episode was a bit dull compared to the end of ASOS. Tyrion/Jaime talking, "Tywin does not shit gold", Melisandre's introduction to Jon Snow..
Nevertheless good season, with Pedro's performance being the best revelation.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
So I guess Bran will just b used for Flashbacks now?
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Germany25658 Posts
The less we see of Bran the better 
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Ive read the books but have no memory of lady stoneheart, what was the beef behind her?
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I don't get the hate over the LSH stuff, seriously that storyline is not all that exciting even in the book and seeing some zombie without much context would be almost as pointless as that skeleton attack. In my opinion the much more serious omission is the whole Tysha storyline, it is pretty much what drives Tyrion in the books and makes him half-mad. Overall they seem to be completely butchering anything even slightly subtle about Tyrion. He has been reduced to a quick-witted joker, and while that was part of him in the books the essence of his character was divided. He was a joker, but he also sought his father's approval, sought to do something grand, sought to bring honor to house Lannister and importantly sought for love in the arms of whores.
Add to that the mediocre Stannis rescue at the wall. Overall I didn't like the episode or in general the changes the show seems to be making. If you assume the show watchers have no long-term memories, the intelligence of a hamster and the desire for raw action of 13-year old boy, then the changes sort of make sense, but it really ruins what made asoiaf great. It was never about grand fights and cool CGI skeletons or fearsome giants.
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On June 16 2014 13:09 Darpa wrote:
Ive read the books but have no memory of lady stoneheart, what was the beef behind her?
That was the name of zombie Catelyn Stark who Beric Dondarrion/Thoros of Myr raised from the death, and who took Beric's place as leader.
The beef is mostly just that it seems book readers would love the shock of show watchers at seeing zombie Catelyn and having to think about that for the whole off-season.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 16 2014 13:01 KadaverBB wrote:The less we see of Bran the better
I am so down with that, but without Bran, how are we gonna see the Tower of Joy?
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On June 16 2014 13:12 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 13:09 Darpa wrote:
Ive read the books but have no memory of lady stoneheart, what was the beef behind her? That was the name of zombie Catelyn Stark who Berrick Dondarion raised from the death, and who took his place as leader.
aahhhh okay thanks for clearing that up.
I was like "wtf why dont i remember this shit"
But in all honesty, that character is super hard to appear on tv and not be done badly. Im not suprised they cut it.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 16 2014 13:12 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 13:09 Darpa wrote:
Ive read the books but have no memory of lady stoneheart, what was the beef behind her? That was the name of zombie Catelyn Stark who Berrick Dondarion raised from the death, and who took his place as leader. The beef is mostly just that it seems book readers would love the shock of show watchers at seeing zombie Catelyn and having to think about that for the whole off-season.
Strange, I always called them Uncat and Ungregor in my head.
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On June 16 2014 13:09 Darpa wrote:
Ive read the books but have no memory of lady stoneheart, what was the beef behind her?
Resurrected Catelyn Stark
Her throat was cut at the red wedding, and body tossed into the river, then was dragged ashore by a direwolf. Brotherhood Without Banners found her, and Beric gave up his life to "resurrect" her. Recurrected Cat is basically a walking zombie because she's been dead for too long (pretty sure she can't talk but don't really remember).
Lady Stoneheart is on a quest to kill everyone who's wronged the Starks.
I'm pretty sure I missed a lot of stuff, but that's the gist of LSH.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 16 2014 13:16 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 13:09 Darpa wrote:
Ive read the books but have no memory of lady stoneheart, what was the beef behind her? Resurrected Catelyn Stark Her throat was cut at the red wedding, and body tossed into the river, then was dragged ashore by a direwolf. Brotherhood Without Banners found her, and Beric gave up his life to "resurrect" her. Recurrected Cat is basically a walking zombie because she's been dead for too long (pretty sure she can't talk but don't really remember). Lady Stoneheart is on a quest to kill everyone who's wronged the Starks. I'm pretty sure I missed a lot of stuff, but that's the gist of LSH.
Kill count of like 5 freys?
2nd best Frey killer in the lands.
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On June 16 2014 13:14 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 13:12 rasnj wrote:On June 16 2014 13:09 Darpa wrote:
Ive read the books but have no memory of lady stoneheart, what was the beef behind her? That was the name of zombie Catelyn Stark who Berrick Dondarion raised from the death, and who took his place as leader. The beef is mostly just that it seems book readers would love the shock of show watchers at seeing zombie Catelyn and having to think about that for the whole off-season. Strange, I always called them Uncat and Ungregor in my head.
These are also popular names, but no one in the books actually call them that. In the books they are called Lady Stoneheart and Robert Strong, even if it is obvious who they were and we therefore tend to gloss over the change in name. I myself was confused about people talking about LSH reveal. I thought it meant "Lannister Shits Himself" and assumed it referred to the Tywin-Tyrion episode.
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As always, I enjoyed the episode, but... No Tysha talk. Pretty "meh" Stannis arrival. I don't know. Couldn't they have cut out the pointless Grey Worm scene a few weeks back and had more time for important stuff?
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