EPTEdd shouldn't die just yet, he's one of the brothers in the running for Lord Commander, i liked that he was in charge for a bit and he actually got a few good lines in, otherwise people might be like "wtf why is he an option?" (assuming the voting actually takes some time later on in the show)
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Koerage
Netherlands1220 Posts
Edd shouldn't die just yet, he's one of the brothers in the running for Lord Commander, i liked that he was in charge for a bit and he actually got a few good lines in, otherwise people might be like "wtf why is he an option?" (assuming the voting actually takes some time later on in the show) | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
also the change that Jon Snow goes on a suicide mission because he wants to instead of being sent there makes no sense at all. Now people can say he deserted the watch again to join the wildlings. Well it was a great episode nevertheless and there was actually a lot of time spent on the attack, which is good, but theres no way in hell they can wrap up everything in the last episode.. theres just not enough time left. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4554 Posts
On June 09 2014 13:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Heh, nice call. imo Ygritte's death was the only glaring issue I had with this ep. Too cinematic. The book version was not only more touching but also a bit more believable. == Aside from that I was very satisfied with this one. It's at least on par with "Blackwater". Actually giving Sam some dignity and making Alliser Thorne somewhat likable for once was a very nice addition. The giants and mammoths were fucking awesome as well. OOOOH it's the boy from the village, I totally forgot, that's great. Pretty nice episode. I was getting impatient during the first 15 mins of filler, wanted the fight to start. The actual fight delivered though. The giant archer was a highlight for me, pretty hilarious moment. I don't quite agree on Pyp/Grenn dying. As if Martin isn't killing enough characters already, the show has to kill some too? -_- | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
I bet Stannis coming to the rescue is going to get 30 seconds of screentime that no show watcher is going to remember, or it'll be him slaughtering the train of women and children or something. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
I dunno the whole election thing seems to be a giant mess now. Dunno how they want to straigthen that out. From the show you get the impression that Alliser Thorne is lord commander during the fight. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Jon's relationship with any of the Wildlings outside of Ygritte just isn't convincing to think that he is going to broker a future peace, especially with Tormund who he is basicly friends with in the books even when he is walking to treat with Mance. In the show since they made him come with Ygritte over the wall, his relationship isn't anything close to the same. Jon going to treat with Mance even in the books was a big stretch, but Slynt and Thorne were hoping he would die so at least the expectations were realistic. The show has him going with apparently no weapon as his own idea to try and kill Mance, and he expects to die too, but I just don't see how with his much more limited time with Mance in show that it works. There has been no Dalla or Val on the show either which will be interesting to see if they exist, or Mance's new born son. I also didn't really get why they lit the forest on fire on their flank. I know they told the raiders that they would light the biggest fire the north has ever seen as the signal to attack, but realistically the fire going out of control and causing more problems than the Night's Watch seems likely, where the benefits escape me. On the positive side, the fight choreography was some of the best work they have done, and it was good that they actually showed a battle on screen instead of showing the build up and cutting to the results afterwords. It was also good to see Jon actually do something himself instead of kind of lucking into winning or leading. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On June 09 2014 20:37 Spaylz wrote: I don't see how they could possibly include the election in the last episode. There is just no way. It would have to be completely rushed out. yeah, though if u take the numbers provided (100) and count the deaths in ep9, then the NW is down to so few man that they could hold a vote at a dinner table :D | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On June 09 2014 21:03 Geo.Rion wrote: yeah, though if u take the numbers provided (100) and count the deaths in ep9, then the NW is down to so few man that they could hold a vote at a dinner table :D Well, the 100 were only the men at Castle Black, there should still be quite some members in Eastwatch and the Shadow Tower, which will likely be included in the election process. | ||
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Koerage
Netherlands1220 Posts
The only thing i dont really get is how they won the fight on the ground like someone else said - suddenly they've won when Jon kills the Magnar and Ygritte gets shot | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
Also, killing Pyp & Green... that's 2 more people that are supposed to still be alive in the book. I understand they needed casualties in the NW to show us it was really hard, but the 2 of them? meh... | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4554 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On June 09 2014 23:44 Conti wrote: I'm quite impressed they decided to spend an entire episode with one setting. That's the first time they've done that. Also impressed they managed to keep it a secret until now. Maybe we'll get to see more of that in the future. Blackwater was the same | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
Well, yes, but that was King's Landing, where we had a dozen or main characters. This was the wall, where we had Jon Snow as pretty much the only character that really matters. Well, and Sam, I guess. Quite the difference, IMHO. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On June 09 2014 23:44 Conti wrote: I'm quite impressed they decided to spend an entire episode with one setting. That's the first time they've done that. Also impressed they managed to keep it a secret until now. Maybe we'll get to see more of that in the future. I didn't really like it that much. I thought the battle was well done, but there were parts of it that could have been slimmed down to allow for at least a cursory glance at King's Landing to lay the foundation for the next episode. There was a little too much preamble with Jon and Sam, and Ygritte's death was done very poorly in my opinion, that scene was much more powerful in the book. I didn't mind that they killed off Grenn and Pyp, using Grenn as a stand-in for Noye made the most sense I suppose since they never casted the character, which I always felt was a mistake. Noye and the Giant King locked in a mortal embrace was always such a powerful image for me in the books, and made him seem like such a badass. The fight between Jon and Styr was well done, and in general the combat was awesome, although I think they could have shown a few more wildlings attacking the wall rather than the paltry force of Giants + 1 Mammoth that tried to take down the gates. They could have put on a lot more pressure with the numbers they have. The greatest strength of this episode, I feel, was the sense of complacency it's going to instill in viewers now. The show has built up a reputation of bringing the hammer down in Episode 9 and coasting through the finale to set up the following season. I don't think anyone will expect the next episode to be as jaw-dropping as it is likely to be for them. | ||
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sanctuz
Norway184 Posts
I dont understand why Gilly couldn't have mentioned all the wildlings waiting down the way. They even made a point out of her seeing them at the start of the episode. Strange noone has mentioned it before. | ||
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