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Cynry
810 Posts
On June 03 2014 22:57 Azza wrote: Who's lady stoneheart again? It's been a long time since I've read the books. Zombie Stark mother going full revenge thanks to Thoros of Myr if I recall correctly. Brienne meeting LSH would be te most probably thing to happend, and showing her hanging Brienne like the final scene would be fantastic if most. Wat ? Does that even happen ? Do I want to know ? I'm out of this place :D | ||
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NeoGeoOdin
Colombia140 Posts
On June 03 2014 22:57 Azza wrote: Who's lady stoneheart again? It's been a long time since I've read the books. I find difficult to forget her, its not like shes a nimor character without any major events. Shes Catelyn Stark come back to life thanks to the kiss of Berric Dondarrion. | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On June 03 2014 22:57 Azza wrote: Who's lady stoneheart again? It's been a long time since I've read the books. It's revived Cat. | ||
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NeoGeoOdin
Colombia140 Posts
On June 03 2014 22:58 Cynry wrote: Wat ? Does that even happen ? Do I want to know ? I'm out of this place :D Oh fuck,, you say you are midthrough AFFC, dude, dunno wat are you here, these conversations includes everyting to ADWD, you better go away and dont comeback until read whole ADWD, Because we do not separates things in books, like other sites, this places its quite dangeorus to you. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On June 03 2014 23:00 NeoGeoOdin wrote: I find difficult to forget her, its not like shes a nimor character without any major events. Shes Catelyn Stark come back to life thanks to the kiss of Berric Dondarrion. I guess he just forgot the name, I couldn't remember it either :x | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
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NeoGeoOdin
Colombia140 Posts
Well, that looks like it happends. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12463 Posts
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Cynry
810 Posts
On June 03 2014 23:04 NeoGeoOdin wrote: Oh fuck,, you say you are midthrough AFFC, dude, dunno wat are you here, these conversations includes everyting to ADWD, you better go away and dont comeback until read whole ADWD, Because we do not separates things in books, like other sites, this places its quite dangeorus to you. I know, got spoiled a bit already. But the conversation was about what could happen in the next 2 episodes of the TV serie, so I thought I was safe. Oh well, my bad :D Fuck, Brienne though. Didn't see that coming at all, she's still loyal to Cat so far. Wait and see I guess... | ||
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NeoGeoOdin
Colombia140 Posts
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote: It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros. I dont think this will mark the end of Brienne story arc like in AFFC, its just that they changed the time line to some events, as you can tell, at this point the show has diverge a lot with the Books, Sansa Story arc its almots at the level of AFFC, the Theon ones are midway ADWD, and, The battle of the wall its about to happend, but Balon still alives, i think the whole Kingmoot story arc wont be shown until next season. thus been, They mostly gona chaged a litle bit the story arc for Brienne the next season. | ||
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NeoGeoOdin
Colombia140 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote: It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros. Rorge and Biter are dead though. I liked the idea of an earlier poster that Brienne and Pod could meet Arya and the Hound. On June 03 2014 23:11 Cynry wrote: I know, got spoiled a bit already. But the conversation was about what could happen in the next 2 episodes of the TV serie, so I thought I was safe. Oh well, my bad :D Fuck, Brienne though. Didn't see that coming at all, she's still loyal to Cat so far. Wait and see I guess... Just forget what you saw and keep reading  | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12463 Posts
On June 03 2014 23:14 NeoGeoOdin wrote: I dont think this will mark the end of Brienne story arc like in AFFC, its just that they changed the time line to some events, as you can tell, at this point the show has diverge a lot with the Books, Sansa Story arc its almots at the level of AFFC, the Theon ones are midway ADWD, and, The battle of the wall its about to happend, but Balon still alives, i think the whole Kingmoot story arc wont be shown until next season. thus been, They mostly gona chaged a litle bit the story arc for Brienne the next season. I guess it depends on your interpretation of what Brienne says during that scene, which isn't resolved yet. My guess is that it changes the Brienne storyline a lot, and so you can't just have her go back to starkhunting after it without massively modifying the plot. I just don't think it's needed, you can simply reveal LSH with a Brotherhood scene just like in the canon story (I doubt they'll go with the Frey PoV though, that would seem a bit random). | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On June 03 2014 23:29 Nebuchad wrote: I guess it depends on your interpretation of what Brienne says during that scene, which isn't resolved yet. My guess is that it changes the Brienne storyline a lot, and so you can't just have her go back to starkhunting after it without massively modifying the plot. I just don't think it's needed, you can simply reveal LSH with a Brotherhood scene just like in the canon story (I doubt they'll go with the Frey PoV though, that would seem a bit random). What do you mean? Brienne is told she can pick between the sword and the noose. I.e she can be hanged, or go and get Jaime so Lady Stoneheart can get justice. And in Jaime's chapter in ADWD, Brienne shows up and tells him a blatant lie. It's not resolves, but we know what Brienne said. | ||
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NeoGeoOdin
Colombia140 Posts
If they gona make the final scene with Brienne and LSH, its probably going to be the same way, the show-viewers are gona ask if Brienne lives or not, just like us. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12463 Posts
On June 03 2014 23:38 Spaylz wrote: What do you mean? Brienne is told she can pick between the sword and the noose. I.e she can be hanged, or go and get Jaime so Lady Stoneheart can get justice. And in Jaime's chapter in ADWD, Brienne shows up and tells him a blatant lie. It's not resolves, but we know what Brienne said. That's my interpretation of it as well, but we could still be wrong. If we are right and they put this scene at the end of season 4, like it's been suggested, then there's basically no Brienne in the whole season 5 or you have to rush Jaime's plot a whole lot. Both of which would be a shame imo. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
So we won't see much of her in season 5 either way, unless they keep making random stuff up. (which is a good possibility to be fair) | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
Jaime is still in King's Landing, and has yet to do all of what he does in the Riverlands. I think it's pretty crucial. It shows a wrapping up of the War of the Five Kings. No... I think they will reveal Stoneheart, but in a scene similar to the ending of S2. It'll cut to somewhere in the Riverlands, maybe show the Brotherhood Without Banners catching a Frey, and bringing him to a hooded woman. Then she orders him hanged, and they slowly move up the camera to reveal her face as she watches. | ||
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0x64
Finland4615 Posts
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote: It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros. Maybe Oberyn is not dead :D? (The ultimate I would not expect him to be back...) | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
This part is especially interesting: "Iain Glen: It was a difficult scene to play. Dan [Weiss] and David [Benioff] are succinct writers so it was absolutely jam packed with subtext which I had to try and access from what was basically a two-and-a-half page scene. The directors put the onus on us to discover our way through scenes, but [director] Alex Graves brought some wonderful ideas, and that was one of them, to speak through each other during that part of the scene." Well, that explains a lot... | ||
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