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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 14:00:06
June 03 2014 13:58 GMT
#10221
On June 03 2014 22:57 Azza wrote:
Who's lady stoneheart again? It's been a long time since I've read the books.

Zombie Stark mother going full revenge thanks to Thoros of Myr if I recall correctly.


Brienne meeting LSH would be te most probably thing to happend, and showing her hanging Brienne like the final scene would be fantastic if most.

Wat ? Does that even happen ? Do I want to know ? I'm out of this place :D
NeoGeoOdin
Profile Joined October 2011
Colombia140 Posts
June 03 2014 14:00 GMT
#10222
On June 03 2014 22:57 Azza wrote:
Who's lady stoneheart again? It's been a long time since I've read the books.


I find difficult to forget her, its not like shes a nimor character without any major events.

Shes Catelyn Stark come back to life thanks to the kiss of Berric Dondarrion.
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
June 03 2014 14:00 GMT
#10223
On June 03 2014 22:57 Azza wrote:
Who's lady stoneheart again? It's been a long time since I've read the books.

It's revived Cat.
NeoGeoOdin
Profile Joined October 2011
Colombia140 Posts
June 03 2014 14:04 GMT
#10224
On June 03 2014 22:58 Cynry wrote:
Show nested quote +
Brienne meeting LSH would be te most probably thing to happend, and showing her hanging Brienne like the final scene would be fantastic if most.

Wat ? Does that even happen ? Do I want to know ? I'm out of this place :D


Oh fuck,, you say you are midthrough AFFC, dude, dunno wat are you here, these conversations includes everyting to ADWD, you better go away and dont comeback until read whole ADWD,
Because we do not separates things in books, like other sites, this places its quite dangeorus to you.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
June 03 2014 14:05 GMT
#10225
On June 03 2014 23:00 NeoGeoOdin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 22:57 Azza wrote:
Who's lady stoneheart again? It's been a long time since I've read the books.


I find difficult to forget her, its not like shes a nimor character without any major events.

Shes Catelyn Stark come back to life thanks to the kiss of Berric Dondarrion.


I guess he just forgot the name, I couldn't remember it either :x
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4554 Posts
June 03 2014 14:08 GMT
#10226
Same, I know she's alive again, but when I first read 'lady stoneheart' I had to google it to remember
NeoGeoOdin
Profile Joined October 2011
Colombia140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 14:09:56
June 03 2014 14:09 GMT
#10227
Huh, weird, to me LSH its such an awesome name, to just forget about.

Well, that looks like it happends.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12389 Posts
June 03 2014 14:09 GMT
#10228
It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros.
No will to live, no wish to die
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
June 03 2014 14:11 GMT
#10229
On June 03 2014 23:04 NeoGeoOdin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 22:58 Cynry wrote:
Brienne meeting LSH would be te most probably thing to happend, and showing her hanging Brienne like the final scene would be fantastic if most.

Wat ? Does that even happen ? Do I want to know ? I'm out of this place :D


Oh fuck,, you say you are midthrough AFFC, dude, dunno wat are you here, these conversations includes everyting to ADWD, you better go away and dont comeback until read whole ADWD,
Because we do not separates things in books, like other sites, this places its quite dangeorus to you.

I know, got spoiled a bit already. But the conversation was about what could happen in the next 2 episodes of the TV serie, so I thought I was safe. Oh well, my bad :D

Fuck, Brienne though. Didn't see that coming at all, she's still loyal to Cat so far. Wait and see I guess...
NeoGeoOdin
Profile Joined October 2011
Colombia140 Posts
June 03 2014 14:14 GMT
#10230
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote:
It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros.


I dont think this will mark the end of Brienne story arc like in AFFC, its just that they changed the time line to some events, as you can tell, at this point the show has diverge a lot with the Books, Sansa Story arc its almots at the level of AFFC, the Theon ones are midway ADWD, and, The battle of the wall its about to happend, but Balon still alives, i think the whole Kingmoot story arc wont be shown until next season. thus been, They mostly gona chaged a litle bit the story arc for Brienne the next season.
NeoGeoOdin
Profile Joined October 2011
Colombia140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 14:15:45
June 03 2014 14:14 GMT
#10231
woops, double post.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4554 Posts
June 03 2014 14:17 GMT
#10232
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote:
It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros.


Rorge and Biter are dead though.

I liked the idea of an earlier poster that Brienne and Pod could meet Arya and the Hound.

On June 03 2014 23:11 Cynry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 23:04 NeoGeoOdin wrote:
On June 03 2014 22:58 Cynry wrote:
Brienne meeting LSH would be te most probably thing to happend, and showing her hanging Brienne like the final scene would be fantastic if most.

Wat ? Does that even happen ? Do I want to know ? I'm out of this place :D


Oh fuck,, you say you are midthrough AFFC, dude, dunno wat are you here, these conversations includes everyting to ADWD, you better go away and dont comeback until read whole ADWD,
Because we do not separates things in books, like other sites, this places its quite dangeorus to you.

I know, got spoiled a bit already. But the conversation was about what could happen in the next 2 episodes of the TV serie, so I thought I was safe. Oh well, my bad :D

Fuck, Brienne though. Didn't see that coming at all, she's still loyal to Cat so far. Wait and see I guess...


Just forget what you saw and keep reading
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12389 Posts
June 03 2014 14:29 GMT
#10233
On June 03 2014 23:14 NeoGeoOdin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote:
It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros.


I dont think this will mark the end of Brienne story arc like in AFFC, its just that they changed the time line to some events, as you can tell, at this point the show has diverge a lot with the Books, Sansa Story arc its almots at the level of AFFC, the Theon ones are midway ADWD, and, The battle of the wall its about to happend, but Balon still alives, i think the whole Kingmoot story arc wont be shown until next season. thus been, They mostly gona chaged a litle bit the story arc for Brienne the next season.


I guess it depends on your interpretation of what Brienne says during that scene, which isn't resolved yet. My guess is that it changes the Brienne storyline a lot, and so you can't just have her go back to starkhunting after it without massively modifying the plot. I just don't think it's needed, you can simply reveal LSH with a Brotherhood scene just like in the canon story (I doubt they'll go with the Frey PoV though, that would seem a bit random).
No will to live, no wish to die
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 03 2014 14:38 GMT
#10234
On June 03 2014 23:29 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 23:14 NeoGeoOdin wrote:
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote:
It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros.


I dont think this will mark the end of Brienne story arc like in AFFC, its just that they changed the time line to some events, as you can tell, at this point the show has diverge a lot with the Books, Sansa Story arc its almots at the level of AFFC, the Theon ones are midway ADWD, and, The battle of the wall its about to happend, but Balon still alives, i think the whole Kingmoot story arc wont be shown until next season. thus been, They mostly gona chaged a litle bit the story arc for Brienne the next season.


I guess it depends on your interpretation of what Brienne says during that scene, which isn't resolved yet. My guess is that it changes the Brienne storyline a lot, and so you can't just have her go back to starkhunting after it without massively modifying the plot. I just don't think it's needed, you can simply reveal LSH with a Brotherhood scene just like in the canon story (I doubt they'll go with the Frey PoV though, that would seem a bit random).


What do you mean?

Brienne is told she can pick between the sword and the noose. I.e she can be hanged, or go and get Jaime so Lady Stoneheart can get justice.

And in Jaime's chapter in ADWD, Brienne shows up and tells him a blatant lie. It's not resolves, but we know what Brienne said.
I like words.
NeoGeoOdin
Profile Joined October 2011
Colombia140 Posts
June 03 2014 14:47 GMT
#10235
I think GRRM leave that to us to interpretate, the final chapter of Brienne on AFFC its her getting hanged, then in ADWD shes is alive, looks like she in fact say something, but at the end, it dosent matter, what matters its that she decides to acept the taks of LSH.

If they gona make the final scene with Brienne and LSH, its probably going to be the same way, the show-viewers are gona ask if Brienne lives or not, just like us.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12389 Posts
June 03 2014 14:49 GMT
#10236
On June 03 2014 23:38 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 23:29 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 03 2014 23:14 NeoGeoOdin wrote:
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote:
It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros.


I dont think this will mark the end of Brienne story arc like in AFFC, its just that they changed the time line to some events, as you can tell, at this point the show has diverge a lot with the Books, Sansa Story arc its almots at the level of AFFC, the Theon ones are midway ADWD, and, The battle of the wall its about to happend, but Balon still alives, i think the whole Kingmoot story arc wont be shown until next season. thus been, They mostly gona chaged a litle bit the story arc for Brienne the next season.


I guess it depends on your interpretation of what Brienne says during that scene, which isn't resolved yet. My guess is that it changes the Brienne storyline a lot, and so you can't just have her go back to starkhunting after it without massively modifying the plot. I just don't think it's needed, you can simply reveal LSH with a Brotherhood scene just like in the canon story (I doubt they'll go with the Frey PoV though, that would seem a bit random).


What do you mean?

Brienne is told she can pick between the sword and the noose. I.e she can be hanged, or go and get Jaime so Lady Stoneheart can get justice.

And in Jaime's chapter in ADWD, Brienne shows up and tells him a blatant lie. It's not resolves, but we know what Brienne said.


That's my interpretation of it as well, but we could still be wrong. If we are right and they put this scene at the end of season 4, like it's been suggested, then there's basically no Brienne in the whole season 5 or you have to rush Jaime's plot a whole lot. Both of which would be a shame imo.
No will to live, no wish to die
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4554 Posts
June 03 2014 14:57 GMT
#10237
Brienne's plot is done though. They don't have anything to show from her in season 5, other than the meeting with Cat.

So we won't see much of her in season 5 either way, unless they keep making random stuff up. (which is a good possibility to be fair)
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 03 2014 15:12 GMT
#10238
It'd be a mistake to finish her plot that early.

Jaime is still in King's Landing, and has yet to do all of what he does in the Riverlands. I think it's pretty crucial. It shows a wrapping up of the War of the Five Kings.

No... I think they will reveal Stoneheart, but in a scene similar to the ending of S2. It'll cut to somewhere in the Riverlands, maybe show the Brotherhood Without Banners catching a Frey, and bringing him to a hooded woman. Then she orders him hanged, and they slowly move up the camera to reveal her face as she watches.
I like words.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4602 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 15:23:49
June 03 2014 15:23 GMT
#10239
On June 03 2014 23:09 Nebuchad wrote:
It seems they will end on LSH, especially since there's a documentary on "the business of Game of Thrones" where they ask a dude who's been involved with the show to tease something, and he says "a character you don't expect will come back". I think it makes perfect sense to end the season on that reveal, but I'm not sure I agree with involving Brienne, that puts her at the end of her known story a little soon when compared to the rest of Westeros.


Maybe Oberyn is not dead :D? (The ultimate I would not expect him to be back...)
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 15:25:31
June 03 2014 15:25 GMT
#10240
On another note, I just read that: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=651186814968522&id=116906515063224&substory_index=0

This part is especially interesting:

"Iain Glen: It was a difficult scene to play. Dan [Weiss] and David [Benioff] are succinct writers so it was absolutely jam packed with subtext which I had to try and access from what was basically a two-and-a-half page scene. The directors put the onus on us to discover our way through scenes, but [director] Alex Graves brought some wonderful ideas, and that was one of them, to speak through each other during that part of the scene."

Well, that explains a lot...
I like words.
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