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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 02:06:07
June 02 2014 02:05 GMT
#10041
GAT DAYYYUMM. They did it justice.
Big water
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 02 2014 02:08 GMT
#10042
Sansa.

AWESOME.

Duel.

Pretty sweet, but this is the point in the series where it really starts to feel like GRRM starts killing characters more for shock value and less for actual story purpose.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 02:12:18
June 02 2014 02:10 GMT
#10043
Its pretty sad but you have to admit that the show will only spiral downwards in quality from here on. I cant think of much to look forward to once Tyrion leaves kings landing.
you no take candle
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 02 2014 02:12 GMT
#10044
On June 02 2014 11:10 sc2holar wrote:
Its pretty sad but you have to admit that the story will only spiral downwards in quality from here on.

Not yet. It goes south after Tyrion kills Tywin and Shae.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
June 02 2014 02:15 GMT
#10045
On June 02 2014 11:12 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:10 sc2holar wrote:
Its pretty sad but you have to admit that the story will only spiral downwards in quality from here on.

Not yet. It goes south after Tyrion kills Tywin and Shae.

Yeah, wich is why it really would have paid off to do Stannis right from the get-go, but the show runners were obviously too short-sighted. Wich is understandable when you produce a television show one season at a time and have to actually earn a continuation in order to get to the late-game in the first place.
you no take candle
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 02:28:17
June 02 2014 02:27 GMT
#10046
On June 02 2014 11:10 sc2holar wrote:
Its pretty sad but you have to admit that the show will only spiral downwards in quality from here on. I cant think of much to look forward to once Tyrion leaves kings landing.


I don't know, I have some faith the show will be fine next season. I mean, they certainly aren't afraid of taking some liberties, which in a lot of cases I haven't agreed with...but for the coming episodes, it could be a good thing.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 02 2014 03:30 GMT
#10047
I don't understand the story about the cousin. Where are they going with this?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 02 2014 03:31 GMT
#10048
On June 02 2014 11:10 sc2holar wrote:
Its pretty sad but you have to admit that the show will only spiral downwards in quality from here on. I cant think of much to look forward to once Tyrion leaves kings landing.

Hmm.. yeah hard to defend this episode. The duel was well enough executed given the budget and all but the rest... hmm... not so much.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 03:40:37
June 02 2014 03:39 GMT
#10049
There's the entirety of the LSH plotline as well as all of Brienne's traveling left to work with for next season, not to mention a ton of stuff with the Ironborn, Dorne and even at the Wall.

King's Landing doesn't disappear either, there's still Cersei getting what's coming to her.

I think the show is fine. They have PLENTY of material for Season 5 to work with.

Oh i forgot. There's still Braavos and Arya.

Yea there's a TON of stuff for them to work with.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 03:42:05
June 02 2014 03:41 GMT
#10050
On June 02 2014 12:31 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:10 sc2holar wrote:
Its pretty sad but you have to admit that the show will only spiral downwards in quality from here on. I cant think of much to look forward to once Tyrion leaves kings landing.

Hmm.. yeah hard to defend this episode. The duel was well enough executed given the budget and all but the rest... hmm... not so much.


I though the duel was amazing, it was literally line for line from the book.

It wasn't very long, but that scene didn't last a long time in the book either.

It was perfect. What is there to complain about?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
June 02 2014 03:51 GMT
#10051
Everything Manderly is pretty much on par with ASOS, can't wait for the casting.
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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
June 02 2014 03:55 GMT
#10052
now everyone knows who is sansa
this change is just meh
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
June 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#10053
Kinda funny because Ive read the books but I didnt even remember the duels outcome, so the show was awesome haha. Kind of nice because I seem to have forgotten some of the smaller plot points so it makes it more interesting.
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Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 04:20:42
June 02 2014 04:18 GMT
#10054
That Sansa twist will keep me up half the week trying to think of all the ways that messes things up.

That head crunch was awesome. They even avoided the awkwardness of an actor who probably can't deliver a delicate line by altering the specifics the way they did, while keeping it the same in every way that matters.

The starcraft analogies popping up in the other thread to describe Oberyn's mistake are funny. (and appropriate)
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
June 02 2014 04:20 GMT
#10055
I didnt like how overconfident they made Cersei look through the entire fight. In the books she screams out in horror when Oberyn pierces the mountain.
you no take candle
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
June 02 2014 04:22 GMT
#10056
Man... As soon as The Mountain tripped Oberyn, I closed my eyes to wait for it to be over. The screams though, his screams and the squishing sounds and the crunch were just awful. Then I was dumb enough to open my eyes when Tywin started sentencing Tyrion and the show pans to Oberyn lying there with his head smashed in and I threw up a little in my mouth.

Fuck.
Writer:o
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
June 02 2014 04:35 GMT
#10057
I read that shit years ago and it still makes my blood boil ugh
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 04:41:17
June 02 2014 04:40 GMT
#10058
hmm, this episode was like the epitome of the good and bad of GoT from a reader perspective. Some scenes are brilliant and even better than the book, others are totally botched.

Jorah's banishment from Meereen felt way too rapid and even less reasonable than in the book. That scene needed more buildup. I mean wtf, a character that's been there since the beginning is almost instantly sent away out of nowhere? At least in the book Jorah's growing desires for Dany and stubbornness after given a chance to prove his worth made more sense in her decision (though I'd of still kept him around).

Theon/Bolton scenes were fantastic. Loved the surrounding scenery of the North as Ramsay is raised to being a Bolton.

Did not expect the Hound and Arya to make it to the Vale. I'm very uneasy about this direction.

Don't know how I feel about Littlefinger and Sansa. The explanation for Lysa's death seemed a little too easy. Though, it seems like the show is actually developing Sansa into becoming a tad more politically astute and manipulative. Sophie Tuner's acting was quite good as well.

The Tyrion/Jamie scene was brilliant. Dinklage is killing it this season.

Sadly, Oberyn vs The Mountain was a bit of a letdown. My heart sunk more and more in realizing that we have less than 10 minutes remaining in the show and we're still not at King's Landing. Pedro Pascal was great all the way until his end, but the fight overall just felt dull and with less buildup than I'd of hoped. They made it even more obvious in the show than the books that Oberyn was fucked the moment he began to gloat.

The brutality of Oberyn's death. If nothing else that was GREAT. Totally savage and bloody. Which is how I'd of hoped the rest of the fight would have gone.

==

Next episode looks great. The Battle of Castle Black has been wayyyy too drawn out this season. It needs to happen now and it needs to be epic.
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sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 04:43:26
June 02 2014 04:40 GMT
#10059
I do have to say this duel happening in the first place never made sense to me. Tywin should have seen this coming and stopped the Mountain from championing for Cersei. This was a political disaster, and there was literary no reason to risk having Oberyn step into the ring.

If you look back at the scene were Ramsay becomes a bolton, it looks like its shot on the exact same location as the last scene between ned and Jon Snow. Interesting choice.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 02 2014 04:50 GMT
#10060
I don't know how I really feel about Arya making it to the Vale.. But god damn her laugh upon hearing about Lysa's death was fucking great, that laugh alone could make it completely worth any changes they do from here.

Personally I love how they did the fight, from what I remember reading in the book it wasn't really a long drawn out fight scene anyway, They altered the Mountains lines just enough to accommodate the actor's abilities the right amount of build up and the horrifyingly right amount of gore in his death imo.

I quite like where they are going with Sansa right now turning into her a true player in the game from the looks of things, Sophie Turner is coming into her own as well.
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