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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
April 25 2014 16:45 GMT
#9201
I think that the Starks warg powers are going to be the means to control the dragons and thus win the war against the others. It's becoming increasingly obvious that Dany can't really control them herself, right?
11 years and counting- TL #680
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 16:58:03
April 25 2014 16:56 GMT
#9202
On April 26 2014 01:45 Monsen wrote:
I think that the Starks warg powers are going to be the means to control the dragons and thus win the war against the others. It's becoming increasingly obvious that Dany can't really control them herself, right?


Until the reversal right at the end. The final Dany chapter in DwD is a pretty huge course correction on Dany's part, and what exactly she is headed towards now is pretty high on the list of objects sorted by immediate importance*uncertainty.

One of the things we can safely take from it is that she does now have some control of the dragon who had previously been uncontrolled.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 18:22:29
April 25 2014 18:20 GMT
#9203
Hm, is saying something isn't a book spoiler allowed in the other thread? Because this post:

On April 26 2014 03:15 udgnim wrote:
who was responsible for the crown's debts?

LittleFinger right? was he just following orders or did he purposely build up the debt (guess this might be a book spoiler)?

before Tyrion got locked up, was he still in charge of the Treasury?


Is kind of an interesting theory. Littlefinger looks out for himself only, but could it be possible that he was racking up the debt as part of a plan? I actually like this idea, that this aspect of his long game hasn't been revealed yet.

As far as I know, this never came up in the books.
It's your boy Guzma!
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
April 25 2014 21:06 GMT
#9204
The question comes up from what is mentioned in the books the same way it does in the show. It isn't said directly, but it is right there in the open anyway. The idea that the finances could be in such trouble because Robert didn't care to 'count coppers' and was reckless with the occasional extravagance couldn't possibly add up, and knowing LF that is a great way for him to destabilize things.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
April 26 2014 04:13 GMT
#9205
On April 26 2014 12:36 ShadeR wrote:
Jaime is not going to go from being committed to 'saving' Sansa and delivering her to her mother, to killing her because Cersei thinks that she's responsible for Joffery's death.


From the other thread.

Has Jaime mentioned his desire to "save" Sansa at all in the show? It hasn't been mentioned yet, right? Except Catelyn's trading of him, but even that hasn't been brought up since the beginning of S4.

I may be paranoid, but that seems like a book reader's post to me.
I like words.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
April 26 2014 04:15 GMT
#9206
They talked about it briefly in episode 1 or 2 ( I forgot)
It was between Brienne and Jaime, they were talking about keeping Arya/Sansa safe etc.

AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
April 26 2014 04:22 GMT
#9207
Yeah, I just rewatched the scene.

He argues a lot about it with Brienne, but he certainly doesn't seem keen about the idea of protecting her. Still seems sketchy.
I like words.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
April 27 2014 15:35 GMT
#9208
I wonder if we're gonna see Sam slaying some sweet wildling box like in the books. Somehow I feel like they want to push Gilly in the background, so I fear that we won't see the sea voyage with Gilly
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Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
April 27 2014 16:38 GMT
#9209
Someone needs to hold up that "you have a massive problem" sign for D&D again. Show watchers all, understandably, think Jaime is a rapist now; but, based the director and actor interviews, they didn't intend for that piece to be a departure from the books. If they just carry on with a story that assumes Jaime did not rape Cersei that will rather fuck things up for those characters.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 16:50:46
April 27 2014 16:45 GMT
#9210
People will just forget about it. It's no worse than throwing a kid out of a window. It's better that they keep this dillema on wether he is a good guy or not than suddenly turning an evil psycho into a knight in shining armor.

Robert surely did the same thing several time but noone cares he was a "serial rapist". It just wasnt thrown at your face like Jaime's.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 27 2014 17:21 GMT
#9211
On April 26 2014 03:20 Requizen wrote:
Hm, is saying something isn't a book spoiler allowed in the other thread? Because this post:

Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 03:15 udgnim wrote:
who was responsible for the crown's debts?

LittleFinger right? was he just following orders or did he purposely build up the debt (guess this might be a book spoiler)?

before Tyrion got locked up, was he still in charge of the Treasury?


Is kind of an interesting theory. Littlefinger looks out for himself only, but could it be possible that he was racking up the debt as part of a plan? I actually like this idea, that this aspect of his long game hasn't been revealed yet.

As far as I know, this never came up in the books.

it was written that every time the crown would need dough, LF would rub 2 coins togheter and make the gold appear out of thin air or something like that.

nobody really knew where the money came from but they were happy to spend it so nobody asked I guess.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 27 2014 17:23 GMT
#9212
On April 28 2014 01:38 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Someone needs to hold up that "you have a massive problem" sign for D&D again. Show watchers all, understandably, think Jaime is a rapist now; but, based the director and actor interviews, they didn't intend for that piece to be a departure from the books. If they just carry on with a story that assumes Jaime did not rape Cersei that will rather fuck things up for those characters.

Hopefully, the next episode will have a scene clarifying this somehow (Cersei implying that she liked it or whatever), and all will be forgotten.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 28 2014 01:18 GMT
#9213
I like these changes..
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
April 28 2014 01:20 GMT
#9214
On April 28 2014 02:21 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 03:20 Requizen wrote:
Hm, is saying something isn't a book spoiler allowed in the other thread? Because this post:

On April 26 2014 03:15 udgnim wrote:
who was responsible for the crown's debts?

LittleFinger right? was he just following orders or did he purposely build up the debt (guess this might be a book spoiler)?

before Tyrion got locked up, was he still in charge of the Treasury?


Is kind of an interesting theory. Littlefinger looks out for himself only, but could it be possible that he was racking up the debt as part of a plan? I actually like this idea, that this aspect of his long game hasn't been revealed yet.

As far as I know, this never came up in the books.

it was written that every time the crown would need dough, LF would rub 2 coins togheter and make the gold appear out of thin air or something like that.

nobody really knew where the money came from but they were happy to spend it so nobody asked I guess.


In the books it says that the crown had low/no funds before Robert even died. After that there was a war. The entire economy of GOT/Westeros doesn't make a ton of sense without additional details. They do point out regularly that during the war much of the agricultural capacity has been destroyed directly or through conscription of all the healthy males.
Push 2 Harder
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 28 2014 01:32 GMT
#9215
I love this sub-arc they introduced on the wall. This is probably minor in the grand scheme of things and the story will likely quickly converge but man this is badly needed for the sequences in the north.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 28 2014 01:33 GMT
#9216
Ser Pounce!! Aww Tommen...
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 28 2014 01:41 GMT
#9217
Having Pod transition this way is definitely much smoother and preferable to what happened in the book.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 28 2014 01:41 GMT
#9218
Jon doesn't know about Bran in the books at this point right?
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 28 2014 01:49 GMT
#9219
nobody has any idea about bran aside from his party
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 28 2014 01:51 GMT
#9220
Why would they keep ghost alive if they have it captured??
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