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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire Click Here for the spoiler-free thread. | ||
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Twoflowers
Germany241 Posts
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
On April 21 2014 19:20 Twoflowers wrote: Well, to be fair, Oberyn cuts him quite a lot. I remember him basically crippling the Mountain but then gloated while leaving on one pixel of health, then got hit by command grab and impaled on something. | ||
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Gullis
Sweden740 Posts
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Serek
United Kingdom459 Posts
On April 21 2014 17:59 xuanzue wrote: this is the quote of the book this was not rape, and you are a troll So people are trolls for having opinions? I think it is actually open for debate. However this has been hashed to death elsewhere already. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On April 21 2014 19:46 MoonfireSpam wrote: I remember him basically crippling the Mountain but then gloated while leaving on one pixel of health, then got hit by command grab and impaled on something. I'd love to know how that Qyburn/Cersei/"King's Guard Ser Undead-Mountain" turns out in Book 6  | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On April 21 2014 20:33 boxerfred wrote: I'd love to know how that Qyburn/Cersei/"King's Guard Ser Undead-Mountain" turns out in Book 6 Better question is, who is going to fight him? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
Like what the hell are they going to do when it's time for Stannis to go to the wall? It's going to be hard to explain a sudden shift in character from, "I'm fucking evil" to "I actually have a strong sense of justice that simply blinds me from rational thinking." | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 21 2014 20:37 Vindicare605 wrote: It still bothers me how much the show has decimated Stannis' character. Like what the hell are they going to do when it's time for Stannis to go to the wall? It's going to be hard to explain a sudden shift in character from, "I'm fucking evil" to "I actually have a strong sense of justice that simply blinds me from rational thinking." The idea that Stannis is being portrayed as "fucking evil" in the show is really only something I have seen from book Stannis fans. I dont think any show watcher has that impression. Also I dont see that Cersei/Jaimie thing as rape. Yeah he overpowered her, but I am sure if she REALLY did not want it she could have fought him off. It portrayed how problematic their relationship is, and Jaimie's lusting for her despite him knowing that she is not a "nice" person. One might say he loves her but he doesnt like her. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 21 2014 13:53 Spaylz wrote: For one, the Littlefinger scene. I thought that Aidan Gillen's acting was awful in it, truly. Just... I don't know, the way he spoke, the way he acted... It seemed off, forced and poorly delivered. That's been bothering me last season already. It's the way he speaks that annoys me. He doesn't speak naturally, but puts on a totally fake "medieval accent", like he's in a bad play. It's just so obvious that he's a guy acting in every scene, instead of actually being Petyr Baelish. Meh. On April 21 2014 20:37 Vindicare605 wrote: It still bothers me how much the show has decimated Stannis' character. Like what the hell are they going to do when it's time for Stannis to go to the wall? It's going to be hard to explain a sudden shift in character from, "I'm fucking evil" to "I actually have a strong sense of justice that simply blinds me from rational thinking." That's what I'm most curious about as well. I don't really mind if they change the character in the show, I was never a big fan of him in the books. If his motivation is different in the show, that's fine by me. But how the heck are they going to bring show Stannis to the wall if all he cares about is becoming the king? | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On April 21 2014 21:43 Conti wrote: Also, that scene with Pod was surprisingly touching and sad. I wonder if we'll see him again. He'll go with Brienne at some point, remember? So, yes, we will (or should) see him again, just not with Tyrion. I actually like it better this way, as in AFFC, Pod says "he was my master but he abandoned me", adding yet another bad thing to Tyrion's record. | ||
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GENerateSAYing
United States103 Posts
2) Didn't like how they made it out to be her not wanting him when as book readers we know it's the exact opposite. 3) Didn't like how quickly the fight with Dario N was ended. It should of had it's proper build up. 4) My favorite character Petyr Baelish, the only one who actually plays the Game of Thrones without magic and a high lordship to use as a crutch was wasn't displayed properly. His manipulation on Sansa in the book was so much better than this half ass effort as seen in the show-- but then again the whole TV show has cheated his character making him out to be another 'bad guy' instead of what he really is. A self-made man with machiavellian traits who uses chaos to further his own ambition and keep his enemies in the dark until it is too late. He is a true player and thus my favorite. 5) The preview for the next episode looks great. I think i'll just forget Episode 3 ever happened. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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GENerateSAYing
United States103 Posts
On April 21 2014 23:49 Requizen wrote: The Meereen champion fight would have been better with Strong Belwas I agree, I'm sure the producers summed it up as "We already have the largest cast for any AAA TV show ever, and more characters will confuse the casual audience". | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 21 2014 20:20 Serek wrote: So people are trolls for having opinions? I think it is actually open for debate. However this has been hashed to death elsewhere already. Having a different opinion doesn't make him a troll, but it's not that open for debate I think you will be hard pressed to find another example of "rape" where the person getting raped says: “Hurry,” she was whispering now, “quickly, quickly, now, do it now, do me now. Jaime Jaime Jaime.” Her hands helped guide him. “Yes,” Cersei said as he thrust, “my brother, sweet brother, yes, like that, yes, I have you, you’re home now, you’re home now, you’re home.” She kissed his ear and stroked his short bristly hair. Jaime lost himself in her flesh. He could feel Cersei’s heart beating in time with his own, and the wetness of blood and seed where they were joined.. That's the part the tv show left out, and the part his arguement leaves out. The TV show also significantly changes things because of the timing and circumstances. For one Joffrey's body was not right next to them in the book. Number 2, it was the first time they had seen each other since he came back in the book, where in the show Cersei has already rejected Jaime once. They also left out the key reason for Cersei's eventual rejection of Jaime, which is that he no longer wanted to keep their relationship a secret, and she wasn't having any of that. It's pretty clear to me that Cersei saying no was completely based on her fear of getting caught, not at all because she didn't want Jaime. The whole scene was poorly handled because the point of it's inclusion in the book was to get to their confrontation after the fact. "This was folly". Cersei pulled her gown straight. "with Father in the castle... Jaime, we must be careful." (note this is further evidence that Tywin doesn't believe the rumors about them) "I am sick of being careful. The Targaryens wed brother to sister, why shouldn't we do the same? Marry me, Cersei. Stand up before the realm and say it's me you want. We'll have our own wedding feast, and make another son in place of Joffrey." She drew back. "That's not funny." "Do you hear me chuckling?" "Did you leave your wits at Riverun?" Her voice had an edge to it. "Tommen's throne derives from Robert, you know that." "He'll have Casterly Rock, isn't that enough? Let Father sit the throne. All I want is you." He made to touch her cheek. Old habits die hard, and it was his right arm he lifted. Cersei recoiled from his stump. "Don't... don't talk like this. You're scaring me Jaime. Don't be stupid. One wrong word and you will cost us everything. What did they do to you? "They cut off my hand." No, it's more, you're changed." She backed off a step. We'll talk later.... All this happened before Jaime had even met with Tywin and been disowned for refusing to leave the King's Guard. Without this follow up scene, the previous scene looses alot of it's significance to their relationship. | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
Another good Arya/Hound scene. I loved it when Arya asked where he planned to go after dropping her off. He was like "Whats it to you?" knowing that Arya would kill him if she got the chance. And yea Littlefinger's voice bugs me a little. Only because his fake accent doesn't match any one else's in the show, which just makes it sound fake. Also that Daario fight was like when you get a first blood and a humiliation at the same time | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
Though I guess it's kind of a burdened performance with him being so obviously different from the old Daario (and even moreso the book version). And also the fact that the actor seems to act in such a similar way to how he did in Treme. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On April 21 2014 20:37 Vindicare605 wrote: It still bothers me how much the show has decimated Stannis' character. Like what the hell are they going to do when it's time for Stannis to go to the wall? It's going to be hard to explain a sudden shift in character from, "I'm fucking evil" to "I actually have a strong sense of justice that simply blinds me from rational thinking." I don't get this impression at all from the show. All the Davos scenes and the scenes with his daughter have shown that he's clearly not evil or unjust. If anything he's simply mislead by Melisandre. | ||
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