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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 27 2013 06:40 GMT
#6821
On May 27 2013 14:56 ore0z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 14:36 sung_moon wrote:
So all my friends who were disappointed when they found out this weeks episode is delayed because of Memorial Day are basically being fed by me that the next episode will be one of the best, and everyone will love it; as I've read the book and can figure out what should happen in Episode 9.

Half the people think its Joff getting told off by Tywin/getting killed at his wedding or Dany leads another Sack of Yunkai in an absurdly epic episode. Oh wow beautiful this is going to be

The preview for Episode 9 seemed like it was just going to be the Sack of Yunkai. Is RW confirmed for the next episode? I was hoping it would be the season finale.


so far the "shocking" episodes also were episode 9.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 27 2013 07:09 GMT
#6822
On May 27 2013 15:40 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 14:56 ore0z wrote:
On May 27 2013 14:36 sung_moon wrote:
So all my friends who were disappointed when they found out this weeks episode is delayed because of Memorial Day are basically being fed by me that the next episode will be one of the best, and everyone will love it; as I've read the book and can figure out what should happen in Episode 9.

Half the people think its Joff getting told off by Tywin/getting killed at his wedding or Dany leads another Sack of Yunkai in an absurdly epic episode. Oh wow beautiful this is going to be

The preview for Episode 9 seemed like it was just going to be the Sack of Yunkai. Is RW confirmed for the next episode? I was hoping it would be the season finale.


so far the "shocking" episodes also were episode 9.


Also ep9 is titled "Rains of Castamere"
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chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
May 27 2013 07:26 GMT
#6823
What is this "theory" about Sandor = Gravedigger?

Maybe its one of those "Oh shit, why havent i noticed that earlier?!" - moments but i have no idea what you are talking about.

Someone please enlighten me!
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6191 Posts
May 27 2013 07:35 GMT
#6824
On May 27 2013 16:26 chroniX wrote:
What is this "theory" about Sandor = Gravedigger?

Maybe its one of those "Oh shit, why havent i noticed that earlier?!" - moments but i have no idea what you are talking about.

Someone please enlighten me!


Here is the Gravedigger theory. I think it is very possible, but then again I am very biased as I liked the Hound a lot, and was quite upset when he died.
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 27 2013 10:41 GMT
#6825
On May 27 2013 14:28 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 12:53 Dakkas wrote:
On May 26 2013 06:10 KOFgokuon wrote:
His granddaughter is way more badass

I want more davos


Everyone wants more Davos, he's pretty much the only universally loved POV across every forum I frequent along with Arya.

I simply cannot wait until the show does his meeting with Wyman and utters all those beautiful lines. Liam Cunningham does Davos so perfectly

"Jared of House Frey, I name you liar"


What? Davos was the most boring PoV in ACoK, IMO. I had no idea people actually liked his POV and I've heard many reviewers say Cunningham brings a really boring character to life.


eh? really? Davos is one of my favorite characters in Song yet I think Cunningham (or rather, the writing) really screwed him over as a character. He's not nearly as compelling or sympatathic as in the books.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 27 2013 11:16 GMT
#6826
On May 27 2013 19:41 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 14:28 Nevuk wrote:
On May 27 2013 12:53 Dakkas wrote:
On May 26 2013 06:10 KOFgokuon wrote:
His granddaughter is way more badass

I want more davos


Everyone wants more Davos, he's pretty much the only universally loved POV across every forum I frequent along with Arya.

I simply cannot wait until the show does his meeting with Wyman and utters all those beautiful lines. Liam Cunningham does Davos so perfectly

"Jared of House Frey, I name you liar"


What? Davos was the most boring PoV in ACoK, IMO. I had no idea people actually liked his POV and I've heard many reviewers say Cunningham brings a really boring character to life.


eh? really? Davos is one of my favorite characters in Song yet I think Cunningham (or rather, the writing) really screwed him over as a character. He's not nearly as compelling or sympatathic as in the books.

I guess such an opinion is really only possible if one is a huge fan of the character or something. To me it seems just strange.
Off-season = best season
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
May 27 2013 11:27 GMT
#6827
Well Davos was a pretty "human" character in the books compared to many others but I found his chapters some of the more boring ones, had no idea he was a fan favourite either, thought those awards went to the young, beautiful and powerful. I haven't watched TV version.
Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
May 27 2013 12:13 GMT
#6828
I think the appeal of Davos from the books comes from the fact that he's probably the most sincere family man in the books. Most other major characters worry about the survival of their dynasty (yes, even Catelyn, who at some point during AGoT thinks of giving Ned more sons to secure his lineage) and might go as far as messing with individual family members as long as the dynasty is ok (see Tywin, Doran, Renly). Davos, on the other hand, is always worrying about his children's welfare without neglecting his duty or going full out psycho like Catelyn.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
May 27 2013 13:25 GMT
#6829
On May 27 2013 16:35 DragonLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 16:26 chroniX wrote:
What is this "theory" about Sandor = Gravedigger?

Maybe its one of those "Oh shit, why havent i noticed that earlier?!" - moments but i have no idea what you are talking about.

Someone please enlighten me!


Here is the Gravedigger theory. I think it is very possible, but then again I am very biased as I liked the Hound a lot, and was quite upset when he died.

It is one of the few things I saw the first time I read the book, so it has to be true
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 27 2013 13:49 GMT
#6830
Sandor is a deserter of the kingsguard and probably wanted by the Lannisters - which explains why he's the gravedigger. I think it fits his personality well and wouldn't be surprised if this is the last we hear from him. What really shook me was that the Three eye crow aka Bloodraven is a Targaryen!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 19:40:19
May 27 2013 14:30 GMT
#6831
A spanish interview by a chilean newspaper "El Mercurio"
http://elcomercio.pe/espectaculos/1581684/noticia-george-r-martin-tengo-ideas-como-50-novelas-mas

Three years working with HBO, ehat were the big challenge to adapt your books to tv?
the books are hard to film. They are long, with a lot of characters, castles, direwolfs, dragons and paralel storys. We had to eliminate some characters, i hate that, but it had to be that way. Considering our resources we had done it well.

I understand that, other than you, only HBO knows the real end of asoiaf
Dave and Dan knows the way im taking . They know the general idea but all is in my head.

How many seasons will you need for A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons?
We dont know yet, the decision hasnt been taken. I hope it can be two seasons in that we can combine both books considering that these books happen in paralel but first we need to end the 4th season and wait for HBO to renew the series.

How is it going the sixth book, The Winds of Winter?
im not going to make any prediction. Im working on it, im making progress but is a big book.Definitely is not going to be ready this year. MAYBE i will publish it next year.

Why is Tyrion Lanister your favorite character?
Its really entertaining write about him, he is a very deep character and full of contradictions but also have to fight his own demons. Its easier to work than with a character that is always good or bad.

How has your live change with the success of the books and the series?
Mu live hahce changed in a positive and negative way. I never anticipated this level of fame. I cant go to the movies anymore, people ask me to take photos with them . There is a lot of good people in the fans, but they are so much that is difficult to pose for a photo when the only thing you want is eat your dinner.

You started to write these books in 1991, how do you imagine yor life at the end of the saga?
i will probably have 70. Maybe i will be thinking in retiring but i cant see me retired if my mind continues working and i can sit in front of a keyboard because i love telling storys. My head is full of characters and storys. I have ideas for like 50 more books of science fiction, fantasy, mistery. I also want to write tales (im not sure here, the interivew say "cuento" that is like children storys but is also translated as storys, but i think "tales" is better) and i would like to create new tv series. there are millions of thing i want to do but first i have to finisish asoif. When its done i will see what i start.

P.S sorry for the bad english -_-
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18209 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 15:14:01
May 27 2013 15:09 GMT
#6832
I'm sorry for crossposting this poll, but I need a crowd for crowdsourcing to work! Please vote here:

User was warned for this post
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
May 27 2013 18:46 GMT
#6833
No need to apologize, thanks for the translation!
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
May 27 2013 19:35 GMT
#6834
On May 27 2013 22:49 Emon_ wrote:
Sandor is a deserter of the kingsguard and probably wanted by the Lannisters - which explains why he's the gravedigger. I think it fits his personality well and wouldn't be surprised if this is the last we hear from him. What really shook me was that the Three eye crow aka Bloodraven is a Targaryen!


That one went from hypothesis to nearly a law in just a Bran chapter or two. Bran chapters are the hardest to take anything away from because he is so young and seeing a lot of the weirdest things. GRRM calls him the hardest character to write by far.

The Bloodraven theory also depends a lot on having read the hedge knight series. I think the only in-ASoIaF evidence is the mention of the song about him possessing "a thousand eyes and one" and then he says that of himself to Bran in book 5. Then there is maybe the mention that he came to the Wall with Aemon and became lord commander. The latter only establish that he had come to the far north. Originally the idea was more or less just gut feeling for the people who were aware of him from the sworn sword.

Mormont's raven is a lot of fun with that theory so strong.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 27 2013 20:37 GMT
#6835
On May 27 2013 22:49 Emon_ wrote:
Sandor is a deserter of the kingsguard and probably wanted by the Lannisters - which explains why he's the gravedigger. I think it fits his personality well and wouldn't be surprised if this is the last we hear from him. What really shook me was that the Three eye crow aka Bloodraven is a Targaryen!


hell no, Sandor has to be the one to take out Gregor. He has to be. It's one of the best siblings rivalries I've ever seen in a media.

Heavenly Monk Sandor vs Zombie Gregor needs to happen.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 27 2013 20:56 GMT
#6836
On May 28 2013 05:37 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 22:49 Emon_ wrote:
Sandor is a deserter of the kingsguard and probably wanted by the Lannisters - which explains why he's the gravedigger. I think it fits his personality well and wouldn't be surprised if this is the last we hear from him. What really shook me was that the Three eye crow aka Bloodraven is a Targaryen!


hell no, Sandor has to be the one to take out Gregor. He has to be. It's one of the best siblings rivalries I've ever seen in a media.

Heavenly Monk Sandor vs Zombie Gregor needs to happen.

aSoIaF doesn't follow standard fairytale rules.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 27 2013 21:12 GMT
#6837
it won't be as cheesy as I wrote it, but there's no way GRRM built up the Gregor/Sandor rivalry just for them to each die in seperate places, without resolution.
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
May 27 2013 21:26 GMT
#6838
If that was to happen, who do you guys think Sandor would champion for?

Brienne? Jaime? Nymeria Sand? Arya? Himself? No one, just a random 1x1 bo1 without a crowd to watch?
EGM guides me
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 21:29:52
May 27 2013 21:28 GMT
#6839
On May 28 2013 06:26 Zozo wrote:
If that was to happen, who do you guys think Sandor would champion for?

Brienne? Jaime? Nymeria Sand? Arya? Himself? No one, just a random 1x1 bo1 without a crowd to watch?


The Faith. They are the ones charging Cersei with her treasons after all. There is little doubt he is their best swordsman.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 27 2013 21:45 GMT
#6840
On May 28 2013 06:28 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 06:26 Zozo wrote:
If that was to happen, who do you guys think Sandor would champion for?

Brienne? Jaime? Nymeria Sand? Arya? Himself? No one, just a random 1x1 bo1 without a crowd to watch?


The Faith. They are the ones charging Cersei with her treasons after all. There is little doubt he is their best swordsman.

Damn you might be on to something. Would totally fit.

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