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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 17:50:16
May 20 2013 17:49 GMT
#6641
On May 21 2013 02:46 moopie wrote:
Wow the shit with the Other was really underwhelming. The more they show the Others in the show, the less their threat looks like it even matters. Ice cavemen, scary.


Agreed 100%.

Most importantly I think is the whole coldness-ambience factor when they approach isn't being portrayed at all.
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
May 20 2013 18:28 GMT
#6642
On May 21 2013 02:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 02:46 moopie wrote:
Wow the shit with the Other was really underwhelming. The more they show the Others in the show, the less their threat looks like it even matters. Ice cavemen, scary.


Agreed 100%.

Most importantly I think is the whole coldness-ambience factor when they approach isn't being portrayed at all.


Yeah, what happened? I remembered them looking great from the Season 1 prologue. Huge, menacing, glowing eyes, armor, swords etc. Now they're old and mostly naked... it just doesn't look scary at all.

Maybe I'm remembering that first episode wrong or maybe they only looked so awesome because we couldn't see much other than the glowing eyes. Either way, disappointed with how they look now.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
May 20 2013 18:35 GMT
#6643
"On the next Game of Thrones: The show is off next week, but returns on June 2 for the ninth episode. In season 1, episode 9 ended with Ned Stark getting beheaded. In season 2, episode 9 was the Battle of Blackwater. So I'm guessing something HUGE is gonna happen."

Joffrey dies next episode? I really want to watch this episode with someone who didnt read the books^^
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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
May 20 2013 18:42 GMT
#6644
On May 21 2013 03:35 Zeon0 wrote:
"On the next Game of Thrones: The show is off next week, but returns on June 2 for the ninth episode. In season 1, episode 9 ended with Ned Stark getting beheaded. In season 2, episode 9 was the Battle of Blackwater. So I'm guessing something HUGE is gonna happen."

Joffrey dies next episode? I really want to watch this episode with someone who didnt read the books^^


Red Wedding is next episode.
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
May 20 2013 18:46 GMT
#6645
On May 21 2013 03:28 TrickyGilligan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 02:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On May 21 2013 02:46 moopie wrote:
Wow the shit with the Other was really underwhelming. The more they show the Others in the show, the less their threat looks like it even matters. Ice cavemen, scary.


Agreed 100%.

Most importantly I think is the whole coldness-ambience factor when they approach isn't being portrayed at all.


Yeah, what happened? I remembered them looking great from the Season 1 prologue. Huge, menacing, glowing eyes, armor, swords etc. Now they're old and mostly naked... it just doesn't look scary at all.

Maybe I'm remembering that first episode wrong or maybe they only looked so awesome because we couldn't see much other than the glowing eyes. Either way, disappointed with how they look now.


I personally didn't like them much from the first episode already. Sort of pointed the way for me with how some things would be done.

From the AGoT prologue I got a sense of slow enroaching coldness and darkness that was inevitable, while the episode 1 depiction went for standard Hollywood horror i.e. fast moving, blurry with a 'shock' reveal. I always thought there was a sense of inescapable doom from the books, elegant cold death. I particularly miss the description of Royce's futile duel and death.

Yeah, I glanced around a bit and found this tidbit that Martin apparently told the comic book artist:
The Others are not dead. They are strange, beautiful… think, oh… the Sidhe made of ice, something like that… a different sort of life… inhuman, elegant, dangerous
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teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
May 20 2013 18:56 GMT
#6646
On May 21 2013 02:46 moopie wrote:
Wow the shit with the Other was really underwhelming. The more they show the Others in the show, the less their threat looks like it even matters. Ice cavemen, scary.


That is because ASOIAF has the most misleading prologue ever.

It paints a picture of The Others as these important zombie ice demons, and then... 5 fat tomes later... absolutely nothing.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
May 20 2013 18:58 GMT
#6647
i was hoping for joff's wedding this season, from the episode description looks like joff's wedding will be next season.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 19:01:39
May 20 2013 19:00 GMT
#6648
On May 21 2013 03:58 jinorazi wrote:
i was hoping for joff's wedding this season, from the episode description looks like joff's wedding will be next season.


Definitely next season - probably towards the end.

Edit: Mid season actually, since it'd have to precede the Tyrion stuff at the end.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
May 20 2013 19:54 GMT
#6649
On May 21 2013 04:00 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 03:58 jinorazi wrote:
i was hoping for joff's wedding this season, from the episode description looks like joff's wedding will be next season.


Definitely next season - probably towards the end.

Edit: Mid season actually, since it'd have to precede the Tyrion stuff at the end.


Early. It has to happen before Jaime makes it to KL, and it has to happen before all the trial stuff of course.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
May 20 2013 20:00 GMT
#6650
On May 20 2013 21:50 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 18:23 D10 wrote:
The series makes jamie looks like an even bigger asshole

Makes sam looks like an ever bigger coward

Makes Arya seems like a completely idiotic girl

Makes robb seem even more irresponsible (At least jayne westerling was noble and won his heart while tending for him at the crag)

They also butchered the reeds, so many characters that will become ill perceived due to these changes


Just curious, was there ever an on-screen adaption that you enjoyed?


I actually thought the first season was fucking perfect, and yes theres tons of adaptations I liked

Just off the top of my head, TDK, Ruroni Kenshin live action movie, Iron Man, the TV adaptation from Bernanrd Cornwell's Sharpe series, and many more.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
May 20 2013 20:36 GMT
#6651
http://www.avclub.com/articles/second-sons-for-newbies,97441/

But still, this episode left me a little frustrated. I know that what we’re seeing is the first half of the third book, and I’m more and more afraid that there isn’t going to be quite as devastating a closing punch as there was in the last two seasons, because we’re going to be closing on the middle of a book. Ugh, I can feel myself eating my words as I type this, so I’m just going to stop, because David Benioff and D.B. Weiss (and George R.R. Martin) know what the fuck they’re doing, and they haven’t let me down yet.


The buttdevastation from show-only watchers is going to be beyond legendary. I can sense it.

I can only hope people in the other thread here on TL haven't been too spoiled.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 20 2013 20:45 GMT
#6652
On May 21 2013 05:36 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/second-sons-for-newbies,97441/

Show nested quote +
But still, this episode left me a little frustrated. I know that what we’re seeing is the first half of the third book, and I’m more and more afraid that there isn’t going to be quite as devastating a closing punch as there was in the last two seasons, because we’re going to be closing on the middle of a book. Ugh, I can feel myself eating my words as I type this, so I’m just going to stop, because David Benioff and D.B. Weiss (and George R.R. Martin) know what the fuck they’re doing, and they haven’t let me down yet.


The buttdevastation from show-only watchers is going to be beyond legendary. I can sense it.

I can only hope people in the other thread here on TL haven't been too spoiled.

I am -so- going to read the review from that guy for the next episode..
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
May 20 2013 20:59 GMT
#6653
On May 21 2013 04:00 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 03:58 jinorazi wrote:
i was hoping for joff's wedding this season, from the episode description looks like joff's wedding will be next season.


Definitely next season - probably towards the end.

Edit: Mid season actually, since it'd have to precede the Tyrion stuff at the end.



I though they were going to pull some of it sooner just because it cleans the slate for new characters. It really wouldn't surprise me all that much if they end the season with Joff, Robb and Balon dead.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 21:28:29
May 20 2013 21:14 GMT
#6654
On May 21 2013 05:59 Furycrab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 04:00 c0ldfusion wrote:
On May 21 2013 03:58 jinorazi wrote:
i was hoping for joff's wedding this season, from the episode description looks like joff's wedding will be next season.


Definitely next season - probably towards the end.

Edit: Mid season actually, since it'd have to precede the Tyrion stuff at the end.



I though they were going to pull some of it sooner just because it cleans the slate for new characters. It really wouldn't surprise me all that much if they end the season with Joff, Robb and Balon dead.


It will be most interesting to see what they do with Balon (the Iron Islands) and, as it relates to Joff's death, the Dornish. On one hand those storylines would be good cutting room floor fodder in order to keep the show story a more condensed. On the other hand including them is the way to make three seasons worth of content from books 4 and 5, which helps them stay behind the books.

Except for the lack of Oberyn, I would be thinking the purple wedding will be episode 10 and this season will close out with all three of the leech names dead.

So much for that idea that they were going to use the stillborns instead of leeches.

Addendum:
"3: 10 - Joffrey challenges Tywin. Bran tells a ghost story. In Dragonstone, mercy comes from strange quarters. Dany waits to see if she is a conqueror or a liberator."

...well that about puts the idea of the purple wedding making into this season after all to rest. This Joff v Tywin confrontation should be good. I think we've already heard a part of it; that "everyone is mine to torment" line from the trailer. New topic or just the same Sansa issue as it was in the books, but moved to after she is married to Tyrion?

That ghost story might be very interesting. Tower of Joy? Finally some R+L=J in the show? If it is just the random Nightfort legends that doesn't seem worthy of mention in the preview summary.

Davos saves Gendry already? Stannis should be very disappointed. It looks like they are cleaning up the timeline to remove the warp drives from his ships.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 21:14:48
May 20 2013 21:14 GMT
#6655
On May 21 2013 05:59 Furycrab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 04:00 c0ldfusion wrote:
On May 21 2013 03:58 jinorazi wrote:
i was hoping for joff's wedding this season, from the episode description looks like joff's wedding will be next season.


Definitely next season - probably towards the end.

Edit: Mid season actually, since it'd have to precede the Tyrion stuff at the end.



I though they were going to pull some of it sooner just because it cleans the slate for new characters. It really wouldn't surprise me all that much if they end the season with Joff, Robb and Balon dead.


thats what i thought or i hoped but the episode description doesnt seem like it, unless they made that intentionally hidden.

3: 9 - Robb presents himself to Walder Frey, and Edmure meets his bride. Jon faces his harshest test yet. Bran discovers a new gift. Daario and Jorah debate how to take Yunkai. House Frey joins with House Tully.

3: 10 - Joffrey challenges Tywin. Bran tells a ghost story. In Dragonstone, mercy comes from strange quarters. Dany waits to see if she is a conqueror or a liberator.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 21:23:26
May 20 2013 21:22 GMT
#6656
On May 21 2013 03:28 TrickyGilligan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 02:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On May 21 2013 02:46 moopie wrote:
Wow the shit with the Other was really underwhelming. The more they show the Others in the show, the less their threat looks like it even matters. Ice cavemen, scary.


Agreed 100%.

Most importantly I think is the whole coldness-ambience factor when they approach isn't being portrayed at all.


Yeah, what happened? I remembered them looking great from the Season 1 prologue. Huge, menacing, glowing eyes, armor, swords etc. Now they're old and mostly naked... it just doesn't look scary at all.

Maybe I'm remembering that first episode wrong or maybe they only looked so awesome because we couldn't see much other than the glowing eyes. Either way, disappointed with how they look now.



I always kind of pictured them looking similar to the twilight nazgul in lord of the rings.

[image loading]

I think not showing the slaughter at the fist really hurt the threat level of the others, along with having Sam be surrounded at the end of season 2, and then never explaining how he escaped. Now he has killed a White Walker, but we haven't SEEN a white walker kill anyone since episode one of season 1. No wonder so many non-readers think it's not a big deal that he killed one, and that their army is no threat.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
May 20 2013 21:38 GMT
#6657
Another fantastic episode! Tyrion scenes hilarious, Cersei even more hilarious, Arya+Hound great, Davos great, Sam the Slayer great!!!

I've pretty much thoroughly enjoyed every episode I remember this season except GRRM's. Which is a really weird thing for me to find myself saying.

But... seriously, HBO, enough fucking nudity. When was the last time we had an episode without someone baring tits? Tits aren't what make the show awesome, and too much of them detract from what make the show awesome.

Grrrrrrr.

That said, the Melisandre + Gendry scene was suuuuuuuuuuuper creepy. I definitely agree with whoever said that dislike of the actress increases hatred for the character
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armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
May 20 2013 21:43 GMT
#6658
Everyone complains about nudity after an episode with a little bit of it, but forgets that multiple episodes go by without some.
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Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
May 20 2013 21:44 GMT
#6659
On May 21 2013 06:14 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:59 Furycrab wrote:
On May 21 2013 04:00 c0ldfusion wrote:
On May 21 2013 03:58 jinorazi wrote:
i was hoping for joff's wedding this season, from the episode description looks like joff's wedding will be next season.


Definitely next season - probably towards the end.

Edit: Mid season actually, since it'd have to precede the Tyrion stuff at the end.



I though they were going to pull some of it sooner just because it cleans the slate for new characters. It really wouldn't surprise me all that much if they end the season with Joff, Robb and Balon dead.


thats what i thought or i hoped but the episode description doesnt seem like it, unless they made that intentionally hidden.

3: 9 - Robb presents himself to Walder Frey, and Edmure meets his bride. Jon faces his harshest test yet. Bran discovers a new gift. Daario and Jorah debate how to take Yunkai. House Frey joins with House Tully.

3: 10 - Joffrey challenges Tywin. Bran tells a ghost story. In Dragonstone, mercy comes from strange quarters. Dany waits to see if she is a conqueror or a liberator.


Red Wedding is kinda a given from those descriptions, but I don't think anyone in this thread is really surprised seeing it was kinda the natural midpoint in the book. Next episode, and I'm guessing it's going to be like 90% of the episode perhaps ending with Arya and the Hound arriving late. Mixed in it seems the only major story going along side is Jon's mad dash for the wall with Bran coming in to save him with Summer.

The last episode is probably mostly focused on Dany, I guess we will get to see some battling from the sewers and the eventual take of the City. Just doesn't seem like feature length stuff, but it easily could be. Joffrey challenges Tywin tells us just about nothing, could be something, could be nothing =/.

Seeing they have to pretty much introduce the entire south and reintroduce a bunch of people in the north next season, I can't imagine Tywin and Joffrey being very long for this tv series. However, I guess you are right, probably stuff in the first 5 episodes of next season.



Too tired to come up with something witty.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
May 20 2013 21:49 GMT
#6660
and i was ready to pop a bottle of champagne as joffery scratches out his throat
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