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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 07:18:11
May 21 2013 01:46 GMT
#6681
On May 21 2013 10:39 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 10:28 Thrill wrote:
On May 21 2013 10:06 armada[sb] wrote:
On May 21 2013 09:59 Thrill wrote:
Last episode was absolutely shitsuck horrible.

WTF.

S3 was looking so good, now this insult. Obviously i'll watch the red wedding but i'm on the verge of giving up on this. It's better if it's crap all through so we don't get our hopes up but to have this thrown in our faces after a line of really solid ep's. So disappointing, what, did they run out of everything? Money, time, actors, literate scriptwriters?


How so?


Whoever OK'd the leech plot must have been on crack. A leech off of Gendrys cock causes the red wedding.


The leeches dont cause anything. Well if you believe in the red god you believe that, but thats about it. Same as in the books.

Yeah. Melisandre probably saw the deaths of Robb, Balon, and Joffrey in the flames and did the ritual before it happened to make herself seem more powerful.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 21 2013 01:47 GMT
#6682
On May 21 2013 10:41 Thrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 10:39 Redox wrote:
On May 21 2013 10:28 Thrill wrote:
On May 21 2013 10:06 armada[sb] wrote:
On May 21 2013 09:59 Thrill wrote:
Last episode was absolutely shitsuck horrible.

WTF.

S3 was looking so good, now this insult. Obviously i'll watch the red wedding but i'm on the verge of giving up on this. It's better if it's crap all through so we don't get our hopes up but to have this thrown in our faces after a line of really solid ep's. So disappointing, what, did they run out of everything? Money, time, actors, literate scriptwriters?


How so?


Whoever OK'd the leech plot must have been on crack. A leech off of Gendrys cock causes the red wedding.


The leeches dont cause anything. Well if you believe in the red god you believe that, but thats about it. Same as in the books.


You know as well as i do that that's definitely not how the series has handled it.

No actually this post of yours is confusing me even more. I dont see how Mel's involvment in the 3 deaths is more pronounced on TV than in the books. For me its the same. In both cases you can interpret it like she is involved, but its more likely that these things would have happened anyway.
Off-season = best season
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
May 21 2013 02:39 GMT
#6683
On May 21 2013 10:41 Thrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 10:39 Redox wrote:
On May 21 2013 10:28 Thrill wrote:
On May 21 2013 10:06 armada[sb] wrote:
On May 21 2013 09:59 Thrill wrote:
Last episode was absolutely shitsuck horrible.

WTF.

S3 was looking so good, now this insult. Obviously i'll watch the red wedding but i'm on the verge of giving up on this. It's better if it's crap all through so we don't get our hopes up but to have this thrown in our faces after a line of really solid ep's. So disappointing, what, did they run out of everything? Money, time, actors, literate scriptwriters?


How so?


Whoever OK'd the leech plot must have been on crack. A leech off of Gendrys cock causes the red wedding.


The leeches dont cause anything. Well if you believe in the red god you believe that, but thats about it. Same as in the books.


You know as well as i do that that's definitely not how the series has handled it.


This would be interesting news to Tywin Lannister et al., Euron Greyjoy and Olenna Redwyne et al. for sure.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11411 Posts
May 21 2013 02:56 GMT
#6684
On May 21 2013 03:56 teapot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 02:46 moopie wrote:
Wow the shit with the Other was really underwhelming. The more they show the Others in the show, the less their threat looks like it even matters. Ice cavemen, scary.


That is because ASOIAF has the most misleading prologue ever.

It paints a picture of The Others as these important zombie ice demons, and then... 5 fat tomes later... absolutely nothing.

Actually I think the prologue was a good thing. A very common thread from the books is that magic has all but vanished, but is now reawakening. The prologue gives a teaser that oh hey this series will have magic in it. That way it doesn't come out of left field when he starts incorporating it. Can you imagine the outcry after reading 4 books and then suddenly MAGIC!
[image loading] GIFSoup

It sets up a promise that although the series is low magic, there will be some. Now perhaps part of the problem is his series expanded so much so it has taken a lot longer to deliver on that promise. (The Dany storyline suffers from this expansion as well.) But I think it was necessary because there would be such a large gap until more magic would be introduced.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
May 21 2013 03:31 GMT
#6685
I was really hoping for a Dario that looked similar to draven from league of legends. He show daario kinda just looks like a wussy model... Some sort of badass facial hair was definitely in order.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
May 21 2013 03:52 GMT
#6686
On May 21 2013 12:12 Highways wrote:
Cersei was explaining the the Rains of Castemere was when another house tried to rebel against Tywin, in which he killed them all.

Episode 9 is called Rains of Castemere...


I really hope he is not a book reader messing around with that comment. It is perfect as long as he is a show only-er.



Daario isn't the first one to lose his beard in the show incarnation. I think it is probably an intentional image thing. It is one thing to describe a beard in text for a bookish audience and another to show one on screen for a wide audience. Still...blue three pronged beard power!
[image loading]
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 21 2013 03:55 GMT
#6687
Daario definitely looks like a pretty boy. I didn't really think they'd make him look so ridiculous if he's meant to be the man who Dany swoons over. Make him more generally acceptably pretty seems fine. But yeah I would have like Draven Daario.

And I sort of agree about the threat of the Others. It would have been nicer to see them actually kick the ass of the night's watch rather than just see an aftermath of Mormont with a head wound and butchered horses. Or at least some of the panic as they attacked. Still that said, it's pretty true to the books. As much a threat as the Others are, honestly in the books they haven't killed a main character yet =P

Melisandre's cock-tease for leeching plot was hilariously stupid. They really need to focus Stannis better, it's really easy to be confused in his really simple plot because they're trying to make Melisandre too perfect and more time gets spent developing her than Davos and Stannis combined. In short: I want Stannis to tell Melisandre to shut up and let Davos speak. Give me that scene!
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 21 2013 04:18 GMT
#6688
I'm actually glad they didn't portray Daario as that pic above. Handsome and smooth operator is much better. Plus I'd laugh too much thinking that Daeneyrs Stormborn, Mother of Dragons, Breaker of Chains, of the Hou...... w/e feel in love with a clown.

Would also laugh when viewers are like "Wow she's fantasizing about THAT guy".
Forever Young
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
May 21 2013 05:11 GMT
#6689
On May 21 2013 10:41 Thrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 10:39 Redox wrote:
On May 21 2013 10:28 Thrill wrote:
On May 21 2013 10:06 armada[sb] wrote:
On May 21 2013 09:59 Thrill wrote:
Last episode was absolutely shitsuck horrible.

WTF.

S3 was looking so good, now this insult. Obviously i'll watch the red wedding but i'm on the verge of giving up on this. It's better if it's crap all through so we don't get our hopes up but to have this thrown in our faces after a line of really solid ep's. So disappointing, what, did they run out of everything? Money, time, actors, literate scriptwriters?


How so?


Whoever OK'd the leech plot must have been on crack. A leech off of Gendrys cock causes the red wedding.


The leeches dont cause anything. Well if you believe in the red god you believe that, but thats about it. Same as in the books.


You know as well as i do that that's definitely not how the series has handled it.


It's a slight variation in how it was handeled in the books, where Melisandre was pretending that she was the death for all 3 kings. In fact until her POV, it's very ambigous on whether she did it not not. The show did it as close as possible, quit your bitching
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 21 2013 07:06 GMT
#6690
so it looks from the trailer like they are gonna use sewers to defeat yunkai. does it mean book meeren = show yunkai? why not just skip yunkai completely then..confused
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43545 Posts
May 21 2013 07:09 GMT
#6691
I don't remember Yunkai from the books but can't she just take the city now with the second sons and her unsullied? The army they hired to defend them switched sides.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
May 21 2013 07:14 GMT
#6692
On May 21 2013 16:06 PredY wrote:
so it looks from the trailer like they are gonna use sewers to defeat yunkai. does it mean book meeren = show yunkai? why not just skip yunkai completely then..confused


Mero briefly mentioned Meereen when they were deciding who would kill Dany, there may be hope yet, young one
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
May 21 2013 07:38 GMT
#6693
Daario is on the uprise as one of my favourite characters. Damn he's sooo cool ^__^
Ahh Scept-- hey where did you come from?
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
May 21 2013 08:29 GMT
#6694
On May 21 2013 11:56 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 03:56 teapot wrote:
On May 21 2013 02:46 moopie wrote:
Wow the shit with the Other was really underwhelming. The more they show the Others in the show, the less their threat looks like it even matters. Ice cavemen, scary.


That is because ASOIAF has the most misleading prologue ever.

It paints a picture of The Others as these important zombie ice demons, and then... 5 fat tomes later... absolutely nothing.

Actually I think the prologue was a good thing. A very common thread from the books is that magic has all but vanished, but is now reawakening. The prologue gives a teaser that oh hey this series will have magic in it. That way it doesn't come out of left field when he starts incorporating it. Can you imagine the outcry after reading 4 books and then suddenly MAGIC!
[image loading] GIFSoup

It sets up a promise that although the series is low magic, there will be some. Now perhaps part of the problem is his series expanded so much so it has taken a lot longer to deliver on that promise. (The Dany storyline suffers from this expansion as well.) But I think it was necessary because there would be such a large gap until more magic would be introduced.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was the intention too. That the magic level was meant to escalate. It is just doing so at a truly glacial pace.

SnoWhiTe
Profile Joined January 2011
France121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 11:34:23
May 21 2013 11:31 GMT
#6695
On May 21 2013 16:14 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 16:06 PredY wrote:
so it looks from the trailer like they are gonna use sewers to defeat yunkai. does it mean book meeren = show yunkai? why not just skip yunkai completely then..confused


Mero briefly mentioned Meereen when they were deciding who would kill Dany, there may be hope yet, young one


Well since they've "melt" the Seconds sons and the Stormcrows i won't be so surprise. In any case it means that the Meereen take over will be different from the books.

I don't remember Yunkai from the books but can't she just take the city now with the second sons and her unsullied? The army they hired to defend them switched sides.


In the books Daario is captured by the Unsullied when he tried to get to the camp, he gave the Stormcrows to Daenery. They attack after midnight while the seconds sons are drunk. Meaning the army of Yunkai is almost defeated, they surrend quickly.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 13:02:35
May 21 2013 12:58 GMT
#6696
the show really makes characters look more stupid than they are.

for example: robb marrying a random field medic instead of at least some lords daughter (an unimportant lord admittedly), sam not sending the ravens at all instead of sending them but forgetting to attach the messages, leaving the dragonglass dagger behind instead of that the dagger shattered because of the armor of the white walker.

thats just the stuff i remember at the moment.. i dunno why they would do that all the time. It makes the spoiler free thread very annoying :D

and i cant read this thread because i just started book 5.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
May 21 2013 13:28 GMT
#6697
On May 21 2013 12:52 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 12:12 Highways wrote:
Cersei was explaining the the Rains of Castemere was when another house tried to rebel against Tywin, in which he killed them all.

Episode 9 is called Rains of Castemere...


I really hope he is not a book reader messing around with that comment. It is perfect as long as he is a show only-er.



Daario isn't the first one to lose his beard in the show incarnation. I think it is probably an intentional image thing. It is one thing to describe a beard in text for a bookish audience and another to show one on screen for a wide audience. Still...blue three pronged beard power!
[image loading]


I don't know who from the awoiaf wiki does these illustrations, but pretty much all of them are completely terrible. All the characters end up looking like really cheesy/goofy (almost like caricatures actually) characters out of standard over the top fantasy, which is exactly 0% what asoiaf is.

This is a much more realistic interpretation of how Daario would look like in the real world:

[image loading]
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 13:45:36
May 21 2013 13:43 GMT
#6698
On May 21 2013 22:28 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 12:52 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On May 21 2013 12:12 Highways wrote:
Cersei was explaining the the Rains of Castemere was when another house tried to rebel against Tywin, in which he killed them all.

Episode 9 is called Rains of Castemere...


I really hope he is not a book reader messing around with that comment. It is perfect as long as he is a show only-er.



Daario isn't the first one to lose his beard in the show incarnation. I think it is probably an intentional image thing. It is one thing to describe a beard in text for a bookish audience and another to show one on screen for a wide audience. Still...blue three pronged beard power!
[image loading]

All the characters end up looking like really cheesy/goofy (almost like caricatures actually) characters out of standard over the top fantasy, which is exactly 0% what asoiaf is.

asoiaf may not be standard high fantasy, but the look of characters and places is often 100% over the top. More cheesy than lotr in my opinion. Just try to imagine some of the knights with all their ornaments and jewels and sigils and gold or even rainbow colours in real life.
Same with the size of weapons btw, sometimes they look final fantasy style.

And I have read several comments by females along the lines of "why is Dany into this clown looking guy?".
Off-season = best season
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:18:01
May 21 2013 13:55 GMT
#6699
His blue three pronged beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man's entire body...

It was obvious they were going to change Daario, his book description doesn't work for TV. They didn't make Tywin bald and with blonde sideburns lol
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:15:43
May 21 2013 14:14 GMT
#6700
On May 21 2013 22:28 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 12:52 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On May 21 2013 12:12 Highways wrote:
Cersei was explaining the the Rains of Castemere was when another house tried to rebel against Tywin, in which he killed them all.

Episode 9 is called Rains of Castemere...


I really hope he is not a book reader messing around with that comment. It is perfect as long as he is a show only-er.



Daario isn't the first one to lose his beard in the show incarnation. I think it is probably an intentional image thing. It is one thing to describe a beard in text for a bookish audience and another to show one on screen for a wide audience. Still...blue three pronged beard power!
[image loading]


I don't know who from the awoiaf wiki does these illustrations, but pretty much all of them are completely terrible. All the characters end up looking like really cheesy/goofy (almost like caricatures actually) characters out of standard over the top fantasy, which is exactly 0% what asoiaf is.

This is a much more realistic interpretation of how Daario would look like in the real world:



While I'm not the biggest fan and prefer the one you posted, you have no proof that it's what gurm imagined. The one you posted is one that could work in a modern setting.

You mustn't remember the descriptions that well because a lot of things were considerably were ridiculous in the books.
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