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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
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0x64
Finland4632 Posts
Originally the pattern was Jon say an obvious statement, then she answer you know nothing and proceed to explain why the banality Jon told is absolutely wrong or at least that it's totally biased by culture. No, it's just a whiny "you know nothing..." like it's something cool to say to end an argument. Ok quite a small thing to bitch about but they keep doing it. The only you know nothing without argument should be the last one. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11089 Posts
On May 14 2013 01:33 Conti wrote: Oh, crap. I just realize the chain Tyrion gave to Shae as a gift is, well, the chain. I'm really unhappy that they turned Shae into a jealous bitch that will betray Tyrion for some entirely non-justified jealousy reasons, as that makes Shae a terribly, terribly shallow character, but I still can't wait for those scenes of him killing Shae and then Tywin. Given the actors involved, I'm looking even more forward to that than to the RW. I don't think a whore's a whore would go over well with feminist groups.Probably safer and takes out more ambiguity if she 'loved' him this way. I thought this was kinda the meh episode of the season. Maybe a bit too relationship focused and some of the lines were over wrought. More than a few moments kinda broke the immersion. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On May 14 2013 01:39 Sabu113 wrote: I don't think a whore's a whore would go over well with feminist groups.Probably safer and takes out more ambiguity if she 'loved' him this way. They should've made her smarter and more independent to begin with. I agree that the original plot would not make any sense with the show-Shae, either. On May 14 2013 01:39 Sabu113 wrote: I thought this was kinda the meh episode of the season. Maybe a bit too relationship focused and some of the lines were over wrought. More than a few moments kinda broke the immersion. Well, relationships was the general theme of the episode. Ygritte&Jon, Brienne&Jaime, notJeyne&Robb.. | ||
dravernor
Netherlands6192 Posts
On May 14 2013 01:35 0x64 wrote: I am getting very disappointed to the "You know nothing, Jon Snow", I was really waiting for it but it's butchered. Originally the pattern was Jon say an obvious statement, then she answer you know nothing and proceed to explain why the banality Jon told is absolutely wrong or at least that it's totally biased by culture. No, it's just a whiny "you know nothing..." like it's something cool to say to end an argument. Ok quite a small thing to bitch about but they keep doing it. The only you know nothing without argument should be the last one. This is precisely what killed it for me. I absolutely despise her everytime she says it and I shudder. I even dislike her accent. On the other hand she has an amazing body. | ||
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
On May 13 2013 18:05 DragonLord wrote: Whilst all this is true, the actual threat to the realm are the Others, which only R'hollor seems to be the counter to? Unless everyone in Westeros is given dragon glass, it seems unlikely there is any other way to deal with this threat. The Drowned God doesn't have much effect in the book to me - his powers seem to only be of any use under the water (if he has powers?) I think the Damphair is a bit of a nutter to be honest. The Old Gods would have to be my favourite as they do not demand sacrifices or any sort of special treatment (and the New Gods are... what? I think they are a bit useless but maybe I am just a little biased), but they don't seem to have any powers. Think it will be very interesting if it has anything to do with Bran's personal adventure. It is stated in the books that dragonglass and swords of Valyrian steel can kill White Walkers/the Others. My guess is that Dragonfire (Daenerys dragons) will also have that deadly impact. Therefore I rather believe that the three Dragons with riders will save Westeros than R'hllor. | ||
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dravernor
Netherlands6192 Posts
On May 14 2013 01:46 InDaHouse wrote: It is stated in the books that dragonglass and swords of Valyrian steel can kill White Walkers/the Others. My guess is that Dragonfire (Daenerys dragons) will also have that deadly impact. Therefore I rather believe that the three Dragons with riders will save Westeros than R'hllor. I completely forgot about that, thanks for pointing it out. That is very valid and quite a predictable plot twist. I would like to know who the other two are. Fairly sure Jon is one of them (if he doesn't die). And I am almost certain he is related to Dany in some way. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
I just rewatched the episode and noticed the knife that was used on Theon. It was a flaying knife. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qR6oiFV.jpg) That just makes that scene even worse man ;_; | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
his wiener mustve shriveled bigtime when he saw the blade hahaha | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On May 14 2013 02:09 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: that fckn sick knife. his wiener mustve shriveled bigtime when he saw the blade hahaha Why do you think Ramsay had the girl grind him and shit? That man is a lot of things if not efficient at what he does. Gotta have a hard surface to flay flesh though. Oh god the chills. I hate you GRRM. | ||
KwarK
United States44205 Posts
On May 14 2013 01:39 Sabu113 wrote: I don't think a whore's a whore would go over well with feminist groups.Probably safer and takes out more ambiguity if she 'loved' him this way. I thought this was kinda the meh episode of the season. Maybe a bit too relationship focused and some of the lines were over wrought. More than a few moments kinda broke the immersion. I'm not a feminist group, just a lone feminist, but I'd much rather she was portrayed as always in control from the outset and using him as a ladder. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On May 14 2013 02:11 Fruscainte wrote: Why do you think Ramsay had the girl grind him and shit? That man is a lot of things if not efficient at what he does. Gotta have a hard surface to flay flesh though. Oh god the chills. I hate you GRRM. so you think youd keep a hard on if a motherfuckin' sadistic monster was holding your wiener in 1 hand and a blade in the other telling you how merciful he is? it was to make fun of theon and his precious cock before chopping it off imo. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On May 14 2013 01:49 DragonLord wrote: I completely forgot about that, thanks for pointing it out. That is very valid and quite a predictable plot twist. I would like to know who the other two are. Fairly sure Jon is one of them (if he doesn't die). And I am almost certain he is related to Dany in some way. Jon and Tyrion are both hinted at being of Targaryen descent. (R+L=J and A+J=T) And all three are born of mothers that died shortly after their birth. Those two are the clear front runners as the 2nd and 3rd heads of the dragon. Bran is another candidate, not as a rider, but as the dragon himself. I could actually see Bran warging as the dragon that Jon rides. A POV of when he attempts to warg into the dragon would actually be kind of cool. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On May 14 2013 01:15 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: the warg wildling told jon snow's chick she wouldnt like him once she found out what he was or something along those lines. That doesn't make a lot of sense in the context of that conversation though considering Orell is a warg himself and he's trying to hit on Ygritte. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On May 14 2013 01:54 Fruscainte wrote: To darken the mood a bit: I just rewatched the episode and noticed the knife that was used on Theon. It was a flaying knife. That just makes that scene even worse man ;_; That scene was still kind of hot, those asses are pristine! | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On May 14 2013 02:11 Fruscainte wrote: Why do you think Ramsay had the girl grind him and shit? That man is a lot of things if not efficient at what he does. Gotta have a hard surface to flay flesh though. Oh god the chills. I hate you GRRM. Just think of the mess b/c all the blood that flowed into the area beforehand... Man those women are just monsters, why would they go along with that and seemingly enjoy it? | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On May 14 2013 02:12 KwarK wrote: I'm not a feminist group, just a lone feminist, but I'd much rather she was portrayed as always in control from the outset and using him as a ladder. That's the vibe I always got from bookShae, being a lot more fake and manipulative than showShae, and dumping Tyrion as soon as his fortunes start falling (being dumped as Hand) and jumping at the opportunity of something better (Tywin). They kinda ruined the character when she became a person of trust for Sansa and started being whiney all the time. On May 14 2013 02:25 Dosey wrote: ... Bran is another candidate, not as a rider, but as the dragon himself. I could actually see Bran warging as the dragon that Jon rides. A POV of when he attempts to warg into the dragon would actually be kind of cool. Aegon could be the 3rd rider as well, assuming he is the real deal. I believe the R+L=J but I'm unsure whether A+J=T is true. A lot of it stems from the assumption that there is more to Tywin's claim that he isn't Tyrion's father than simple rejection of a dwarf as son. But of course it would fit nicely with Tyrion going east. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On May 14 2013 02:58 ACrow wrote: That's the vibe I always got from bookShae, being a lot more fake and manipulative than showShae, and dumping Tyrion as soon as his fortunes start falling (being dumped as Hand) and jumping at the opportunity of something better (Tywin). They kinda ruined the character when she became a person of trust for Sansa and started being whiney all the time. The problem isn't Shae being whiny and being around Sansa. The problem is that Shae genuinely loves Tyrion. It's just totally stupid that she would betray him if she would really love him. And it would make no sense for her to act the way she does if she would not love him. It's frustrating. | ||
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