EPTOn May 13 2013 17:23 DannyJ wrote:
I hope George finishes book 6 before he dies...
I hope George finishes book 6 before he dies...
6 is pretty safe right now. I'm more worried about 7.
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
6 is pretty safe right now. I'm more worried about 7. | ||
dravernor
Netherlands6191 Posts
On May 13 2013 17:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote: 6 is pretty safe right now. I'm more worried about 7. Will there be a 7? I thought i read somewhere that he would stop on 6. But yeah I am a bit worried he won't make seven and if he does, what will the quality be like? You know, like 0 original characters left? In some ways I hope he becomes immortal so he can write forever. Other times I hope he dies just as painfully as his characters >_< | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On May 13 2013 17:31 DragonLord wrote: Will there be a 7? I thought i read somewhere that he would stop on 6. But yeah I am a bit worried he won't make seven and if he does, what will the quality be like? You know, like 0 original characters left? In some ways I hope he becomes immortal so he can write forever. Other times I hope he dies just as painfully as his characters >_< Definitely 7. 6 is titled "The Winds of Winter" 7 is titled "A Dream of Spring" + Show Spoiler + (Originally titled "A Time for Wolves") | ||
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armada[sb]
United States432 Posts
Him dying before then is worrisome, especially since he said he wouldn't want anyone else to finish it. The show catching up to the books would also be very troublesome. | ||
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dravernor
Netherlands6191 Posts
On May 13 2013 17:39 armada[sb] wrote: Definitely 7. Was originally supposed to be three, I believe, and then it became 5 or 6 and then ended up on 7. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we ended up at 8 but George seems to think he can do it in 7. Him dying before then is worrisome, especially since he said he wouldn't want anyone else to finish it. The show catching up to the books would also be very troublesome. Interesting. The 7th book title change might mean he had a change of plot that the Starks are no longer central to? And that winter will still be upon them. I'm not for deities in the slightest but I think we could get some fairly interesting opinions out of all of you on the Lord of Light (R'hollor?) because he seems pretty legit. I'd totally take over his books though. Bring everyone back to life. If Jon Snow dies I will lose my shit (and yes i know it is implied he may die after being stabbed) because he is bringing the book to life for me. | ||
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armada[sb]
United States432 Posts
 I think Melisandre's interest in Thoros' revivals of Beric Dondarrion is an indication of her doing it later. Also the fact that she has visions of Jon Snow in the flames makes me think he's too important to be killed off.I don't think that he would ever change the plot that drastically, I think it's better to infer that we will see the Stark family gaining their revenge/taking back the North or even the Seven Kingdoms. I mean, really, aren't the Starks the best liege lords in all of Westeros? Who better to rule than a Stark? | ||
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dravernor
Netherlands6191 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On May 13 2013 17:48 DragonLord wrote: Interesting. The 7th book title change might mean he had a change of plot that the Starks are no longer central to? And that winter will still be upon them. I'm not for deities in the slightest but I think we could get some fairly interesting opinions out of all of you on the Lord of Light (R'hollor?) because he seems pretty legit. I'd totally take over his books though. Bring everyone back to life. If Jon Snow dies I will lose my shit (and yes i know it is implied he may die after being stabbed) because he is bringing the book to life for me. There really isn't any more or less evidence for R'hollor than there is the Drowned God, the Old Gods, etc.. We know for certain these supernatural or seemingly supernatural events occur, but we have no idea if it's actually divine intervention or not. Damphair drowning people and resuscitating them is claimed to be the work of the Drowned God. Warging/Green Dreams/etc are all claimed to be work of the unnamed Old Gods. Reviving the dead/creating magical shadow assassins is claimed to be the work of R'hollor. The biggest nail in the coffin I think to R'hollor straight up being the "one true God" is Melisandre's chapters we get in ADWD where we learn quite a lot about her and her "magic" (or lack-there-of). | ||
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armada[sb]
United States432 Posts
Gendry doesn't seem to really be an important character in the books, unless he comes back to be an important part of the Brotherhood. We will learn who Jon Snow's parents are. I'm assuming you know about R+L=J, but if not, go look it up. It was said that Howland Reed knows, and we could possibly see Bran seeing something as a Greenseer. Regardless, we will learn, but who knows if Jon will. | ||
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armada[sb]
United States432 Posts
On May 13 2013 17:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote: There really isn't any more or less evidence for R'hollor than there is the Drowned God, the Old Gods, etc.. We know for certain these supernatural or seemingly supernatural events occur, but we have no idea if it's actually divine intervention or not. Damphair drowning people and resuscitating them is claimed to be the work of the Drowned God. Warging/Green Dreams/etc are all claimed to be work of the unnamed Old Gods. Reviving the dead/creating magical shadow assassins is claimed to be the work of R'hollor. The biggest nail in the coffin I think to R'hollor straight up being the "one true God" is Melisandre's chapters we get in ADWD where we learn quite a lot about her and her magic. I definitely don't dig R'hollor being the one true god, not with the power of the Children of the Forest, their weirwoods and abilities like Bran's Greenseeing. It is pretty apparent that Bran will become very important, so the power of the Old Gods has to be pretty serious. We also see the power of R'hollor in the revivals, the prophet abilities, Melisandre's immunity to cold and poison, and her ability to spawn demons. I don't really see any evidence of the power of the Drowned God. When I read about the drownings, I just feel like it sounds too much like CPR to be taken seriously lol. I don't think the Seven appear to be anything remarkable. The many faced god appears to be rather strong, if he has relation to the ability of the Faceless Men to change their appearance at will, as they do. | ||
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dravernor
Netherlands6191 Posts
On May 13 2013 17:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote: There really isn't any more or less evidence for R'hollor than there is the Drowned God, the Old Gods, etc.. We know for certain these supernatural or seemingly supernatural events occur, but we have no idea if it's actually divine intervention or not. Damphair drowning people and resuscitating them is claimed to be the work of the Drowned God. Warging/Green Dreams/etc are all claimed to be work of the unnamed Old Gods. Reviving the dead/creating magical shadow assassins is claimed to be the work of R'hollor. Whilst all this is true, the actual threat to the realm are the Others, which only R'hollor seems to be the counter to? Unless everyone in Westeros is given dragon glass, it seems unlikely there is any other way to deal with this threat. The Drowned God doesn't have much effect in the book to me - his powers seem to only be of any use under the water (if he has powers?) I think the Damphair is a bit of a nutter to be honest. The Old Gods would have to be my favourite as they do not demand sacrifices or any sort of special treatment (and the New Gods are... what? I think they are a bit useless but maybe I am just a little biased), but they don't seem to have any powers. Think it will be very interesting if it has anything to do with Bran's personal adventure. | ||
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armada[sb]
United States432 Posts
On May 13 2013 18:05 DragonLord wrote: Whilst all this is true, the actual threat to the realm are the Others, which only R'hollor seems to be the counter to? Unless everyone in Westeros is given dragon glass, it seems unlikely there is any other way to deal with this threat. The Drowned God doesn't have much effect in the book to me - his powers seem to only be of any use under the water (if he has powers?) I think the Damphair is a bit of a nutter to be honest. The Old Gods would have to be my favourite as they do not demand sacrifices or any sort of special treatment (and the New Gods are... what? I think they are a bit useless but maybe I am just a little biased), but they don't seem to have any powers. Think it will be very interesting if it has anything to do with Bran's personal adventure. I don't think that R'hollor is necessarily the counter to the Others, however I think that a huge part of the belief in the Red God is the belief in Azor Ahai, and the battle against the Others. It seems to be a big part of their religion, and so we should expect them to be big contributors in the war against the White Walkers. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On May 13 2013 17:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Definitely 7. 6 is titled "The Winds of Winter" 7 is titled "A Dream of Spring" + Show Spoiler + (Originally titled "A Time for Wolves") I read somewhere that he told the planned rough story to someone else, so even if he dies someone else can complete the series. But I forgot details, maybe some of you guys know more? | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On May 13 2013 19:34 -Archangel- wrote: BTW, did anyone else catch the Tyrion's reference to future events when he tells his whore "What am I going to do oversees, joggle?" Good catch, that didn't occur to me at the time | ||
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karpotoss
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On May 13 2013 19:37 Zeon0 wrote: I read somewhere that he told the planned rough story to someone else, so even if he dies someone else can complete the series. But I forgot details, maybe some of you guys know more? He told it to the show makers, Benioff & Weiss, so they could finish the series should something happen. However, he said that he would not want anyone else to finish the books. | ||
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Zeon0
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TheRealPaciFist
United States1049 Posts
I hated Tyrion's arc in aDwD, but I gotta say I chuckled at that, and looked to my friend who's also read the book while my other three friends who haven't read the books wondered what we were reacting to On May 13 2013 19:34 -Archangel- wrote: BTW, did anyone else catch the Tyrion's reference to future events when he tells his whore "What am I going to do oversees, joggle?" didn't see your post at first, but yeah, I noticed! :p | ||
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