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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
On May 07 2013 06:48 ACrow wrote: Theon/Reek/Ramsay dynamic makes for very, very strong characters. So much is lost on non book readers  It almost led to my ban lol. Theon's story arc alongside House Bolton is perhaps my favorite part of GoT. | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On May 07 2013 06:50 farvacola wrote: It almost led to my ban lol. Theon's story arc alongside House Bolton is perhaps my favorite part of GoT. Yupp, felt so sorry for the guy in adwd. Him and Tyrion are those two guys i just hope gets their payback/redemption. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On May 07 2013 06:55 unkkz wrote: Yupp, felt so sorry for the guy in adwd. Him and Tyrion are those two guys i just hope gets their payback/redemption. I'm not sure if I feel sorry for him, after all, he had two innocent kids brutally slaughtered just to save his ego and you could argue that he single-handledly spoiled Robb's war efforts (well, he is a very important factor in it, and it all could've turned out very differently) by betraying him. I feel strangely satisfied when I think about that and the situation he finds himself in. However, no one should suffer through something like this, but this is why I love SoIaF, the characters are so multi-faceted and I'm torn whether to love or hate them. | ||
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ecstazy
Russian Federation59 Posts
On May 07 2013 07:33 ACrow wrote: I'm not sure if I feel sorry for him, after all, he had two innocent kids brutally slaughtered just to save his ego and you could argue that he single-handledly spoiled Robb's war efforts (well, he is a very important factor in it, and it all could've turned out very differently) by betraying him. I feel strangely satisfied when I think about that and the situation he finds himself in. However, no one should suffer through something like this, but this is why I love SoIaF, the characters are so multi-faceted and I'm torn whether to love or hate them. I completely agree with this. I do think Theon got punished enough now. It's already at the point where I would choose death in place of his fate. I hope he recovers somehow and does something good now. Although I wouldn't put it past GRRM to just burn him alive at the start of Winds of Winter. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
oh the wait is long ~~ ~ | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
The thing that is really forgotten is that it's a war going on. There is a lot of dialog between characters (Freys / Robb and Tywin / Tyrell) but I don't get the gritty dirty feel of a ruined Harenhaal or bandits robbing and raping. If I don't force myself to imagine it, it feels like peace time in season 1. Venture out into the world and leave Kings Landing. | ||
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
Don't mind about Gendry and Edric Storm thing. It makes sense to use a character they have already spent time introducing and developing on the show. | ||
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
those scenes suck compared to all the other characters, we have motherfucking Tywin Lannister, Tyrion and Jaime, Arya, Stannis and Davos... even Dany scenes are good. The Boltons are not bad... cant wait till we get rid of Robb.. hmm maybe things will get interesting when Jon defends the wall... | ||
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Flik
Canada256 Posts
I wonder whats going to happen with John and Ygritte now. Since shes told him she knows hes still a crow. Is his betrayal going to get her killed because of her loyalty? Will she run away with Jon back to Castle Black? Or will they split up and she will die at Castle Black like shes supposed to? I do remember that scene in the trailer where shes aiming a drawn bow at something. So maybe she sticks with the wildlings and just tells Jon to leave. We will see soon enough :D. | ||
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
On May 07 2013 06:45 unkkz wrote: My name is Reek, it rhymes with leek! The lack of faith in non book readers is... disturbing! Think they should know by now that everything happens for a reason, even if it takes Dany an entire book of sitting on her arse to get everything to fall back together, it eventually does! It makes it hard to stay away from the TV thread when people post idiotic things about GRM as if he's the one writing for the TV show -_- | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18292 Posts
1. Sam becomes Sam the Slayer 2. Tyrion and Sansa marriage 3. Arya gets abducted by the Hound 4. Dany marches on Yunkai I am kinda curious how they are getting themselves out of the Loras-Cersei thing. This episode they really left no wiggle room regarding having a Willas squirreled away back hom in Highgarden. And while they left it somewhat ambiguous my interpretation of the scen was that the Queen of Thorns agreed to the marriage. Really strange. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18292 Posts
On May 07 2013 09:22 Flik wrote: Bran should be quite a ways north now, he should almost be at the point where he runs into Jon in that little hovel on the lake. Well Summer runs into him... I wonder whats going to happen with John and Ygritte now. Since shes told him she knows hes still a crow. Is his betrayal going to get her killed because of her loyalty? Will she run away with Jon back to Castle Black? Or will they split up and she will die at Castle Black like shes supposed to? I do remember that scene in the trailer where shes aiming a drawn bow at something. So maybe she sticks with the wildlings and just tells Jon to leave. We will see soon enough :D. I don't see why they should deviate from the books? Jon Snow runs away and she gets killed in the battle at Castle Black? | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On May 07 2013 09:49 fabiano wrote: But if Gendry is going to play the role of Edric, then who will be at the orphanage to help Brienne vs that guy that casts a sword out of his mouth?? casts a sword out of his mouth? what on earth are you talking about? | ||
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NPF
Canada1635 Posts
On May 07 2013 10:33 c0ldfusion wrote: casts a sword out of his mouth? what on earth are you talking about? I think he's refering to when Brienne is almost getting killed and someone stabs a sword through the back of the head of the attacker and it comes out of his mouth. | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On May 07 2013 10:38 NPF wrote: I think he's refering to when Brienne is almost getting killed and someone stabs a sword through the back of the head of the attacker and it comes out of his mouth. That was Biter right? iirc he was in the process of eating her face. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 07 2013 06:45 unkkz wrote: My name is Reek, it rhymes with leek! The lack of faith in non book readers is... disturbing! Think they should know by now that everything happens for a reason, even if it takes Dany an entire book of sitting on her arse to get everything to fall back together, it eventually does! Actually there were quite a few things in the books that didnt lead to much and seemed quite pointless in hindsight. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On May 07 2013 06:39 neoghaleon55 wrote: Things I love about this scene: Tywin saying "Why?" Olenna being so casual about ghey sex I don't like how they turned Tywin into a homophobe, there's nothing in the books to suggest that, or to suggest that homosexuality is viewed completely negatively in Westeros. I don't think it is viewed as an abomination at least. The subject doesn't come up too often in the books, but for the highborn at least it appears to be "we don't think too much of it but men will do whatever men want to do." | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On May 07 2013 10:50 Redox wrote: Actually there were quite a few things in the books that didnt lead to much and seemed quite pointless in hindsight. I'm still waiting for the Lord of Starfall to be more than a random squire. Was re-reading Book 3 and was like "Wait what? 'Dayne'?! As squire for Dondarian!?" and then he never got noted again. To be honest, the original point is true. If a viewer feels they are seeing too much of Theon and have already gotten the point of sadism, then the purpose has honestly already been established for now, unless they're actually going to push forward Theon's "Reek" persona to this season? I thought they'd just torture him this season and we'd find out it was Bolton, but perhaps Theon will be Reek before the season ends. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18292 Posts
On May 07 2013 11:02 DeepElemBlues wrote: Post from the other thread... I don't like how they turned Tywin into a homophobe, there's nothing in the books to suggest that, or to suggest that homosexuality is viewed completely negatively in Westeros. I don't think it is viewed as an abomination at least. The subject doesn't come up too often in the books, but for the highborn at least it appears to be "we don't think too much of it but men will do whatever men want to do." Fairly certain it is not openly condoned in most places, otherwise Renly and Loras could be far more open about it (and in the book it is far more secret than in the show). I also wouldn't call it homophobe. He was using Loras' homosexuality as a political tool. | ||
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