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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and FireClick Here for the spoiler-free thread. |
On May 06 2013 20:18 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? It reminded me of and I think it was an adaptation of Arya meeting the woods witch.
I actually like this explanation. I mean, I assume they are gonna cut a lot of Arya's journey out as it is a bit long and the red wedding is in a couple episodes. So I imagine you are right and they just used this in place of the wood witch.
I think Gendry is to replace Roberts bastard son that is under Stannis's care in the books. I feel they will just use Gendry in the same way they used him where the witch wants to sacrifice him etc etc.
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On May 06 2013 20:18 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? It reminded me of and I think it was an adaptation of Arya meeting the woods witch.
Those were my thoughts as well. Except woods witch meet was much better.
Did anyone notice that the Tyrion-Cersei scene was actually a set up for Cersei to think Tyrion kills Joffrey. She "confirms" Joffrey tried to kill him, then says he will not stop and then Tyrion says using poison would have been a much better choice..
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ah completely forgot about the woods witch T_T
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I can barely watch the torture scenes, ewwwwww
they are great in building ramsay's character though.
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:D I can't help but to imagine this weird father son talk:
"Son, nothing builds your character like tortureing other people."
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No no no you flay the top first, come on son, we've been through this. Yes exactly like that. And now you let the finger fester and dry. Don't mind the screaming, they'll scream harder very soon...
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On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books?
Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers.
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On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers.
Not really. I sure Arya would not spend all time in Braavos and skip on the whole war of living vs dead.
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On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers.
So we need a third thread then? ^^
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On May 06 2013 21:59 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers. Not really. I sure Arya would not spend all time in Braavos and skip on the whole war of living vs dead.
Hence a _potential_ spoiler.
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Ramsay is seriously one of the best villains in any story every. Super happy with the casting. He had the perfect amount of playful evil.
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I'm willing to sacrifice my account for a 2 week ban because I spoiled so much in the non-spoiler thread.. (I just lurk now so no biggie)
even though I didn't just to scar the cool hipsters that kept on "guessing".
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers.
She constantly offs someone so I don't know if that is a spoiler. Especially if you consider that her plan has been to off even more people for a long time.
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On May 06 2013 15:41 Sub40APM wrote:
Even the entire conversation seemed off between tywin and orlenna. "You will order Laras to marry Cercei or I will make him ineligable to marry and no heir for highgarden!"
"Oh okay my lord, I guess I have no choice. Oh by the way, the food supply that keeps the city from rioting and the troops deployed along yours are suddenly needed in the Reach for some kind of emergency. Also, the food that we sell directly to you for gold has tripled in price because inflation. Well, good luck with your war, your soldiers have proved so spectacularly inadequate I am sure theyll turn it around any day now"
I have no idea how Tywin gets away with threatening the very existence of house tyrel so easily, and one of the best players of the game of thrones just folds her cards.
This is a valid complaint. I agree that the whole situation is handled a bit less convincingly in the show but hey, at least with this change it's back on track.
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On May 06 2013 22:54 Doppelganger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers. She constantly offs someone so I don't know if that is a spoiler. Especially if you consider that her plan has been to off even more people for a long time.
Yes but "we'll meet again" implies that at some point Arya comes back to Westeros or Melisandre heads out east.
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On May 06 2013 23:08 TheFish7 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 22:54 Doppelganger wrote:On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers. She constantly offs someone so I don't know if that is a spoiler. Especially if you consider that her plan has been to off even more people for a long time. Yes but "we'll meet again" implies that at some point Arya comes back to Westeros or Melisandre heads out east.
Personally I think Arya will come back. I remember Martin saying that the Stark family is like the hobbits in LOTR, they go their seperate ways and get reunited at the end, something like that
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On May 06 2013 23:08 TheFish7 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 22:54 Doppelganger wrote:On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers. She constantly offs someone so I don't know if that is a spoiler. Especially if you consider that her plan has been to off even more people for a long time. Yes but "we'll meet again" implies that at some point Arya comes back to Westeros or Melisandre heads out east.
It's definitely new information for us book readers, considering Melisandre can glimpse future events.
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On May 06 2013 23:08 TheFish7 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 22:54 Doppelganger wrote:On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers. She constantly offs someone so I don't know if that is a spoiler. Especially if you consider that her plan has been to off even more people for a long time. Yes but "we'll meet again" implies that at some point Arya comes back to Westeros or Melisandre heads out east.
It really is not a mayor spoiler. Lets not be like the people in the show only thread :D
Bigger spoiler is that Edric Storm is not important to future story, unless whatever Edric was supposed to do will be done all by Gendry
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On May 06 2013 22:56 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 15:41 Sub40APM wrote:
Even the entire conversation seemed off between tywin and orlenna. "You will order Laras to marry Cercei or I will make him ineligable to marry and no heir for highgarden!"
"Oh okay my lord, I guess I have no choice. Oh by the way, the food supply that keeps the city from rioting and the troops deployed along yours are suddenly needed in the Reach for some kind of emergency. Also, the food that we sell directly to you for gold has tripled in price because inflation. Well, good luck with your war, your soldiers have proved so spectacularly inadequate I am sure theyll turn it around any day now"
I have no idea how Tywin gets away with threatening the very existence of house tyrel so easily, and one of the best players of the game of thrones just folds her cards. This is a valid complaint. I agree that the whole situation is handled a bit less convincingly in the show but hey, at least with this change it's back on track.
I think the idea of that scene is that she's ok to give up loras's bachelorhood because she can get around it somehow. She has a plan, and if not she can think of something.
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On May 06 2013 23:08 TheFish7 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 22:54 Doppelganger wrote:On May 06 2013 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 06 2013 18:39 PredY wrote:
what do you think is the meaning of the Arya - Mellisandre scene? She clearly sees Arya doing some assassinations, but also says they will meet again, is that something that is gonna happen in the last 2 books? Yeah I think that's a potential spoiler for us book readers. She constantly offs someone so I don't know if that is a spoiler. Especially if you consider that her plan has been to off even more people for a long time. Yes but "we'll meet again" implies that at some point Arya comes back to Westeros or Melisandre heads out east.
For some reason you think the show will suddenly start sticking to the books 100%...remember that in the books, Arya and Melisandre never meet at all. Can we really consider it a spoiler if, after contriving their meeting in the show, she foretells another meeting? For all we know it will be another invention by the show writers for some unknown purpose, not a spoiler of Martin's story.
And for the record, I think the Gendry/Edric Storm switch has been one of the smarter changes they have made. Gendry did nothing in the books after leaving for the BWB, and Edric Storm was likely headed for a similar fate. Instead, they combine them, and make Edric one of those bottle babies.
Also, despite me not really liking the Ros character at all, was anyone else hoping that since she has gotten so much screentime, not so much this season as in the first two, she would actually accomplish something before being killed off like that?
Many people were hypothesizing, and I agreed, that she would fill the role of Ser Dontos in Sansa's escape from King's Landing, since the writers have forgotten about Ser Dontos since the episode he was introduced. But now that she is dead, what exactly did she bring to the story that couldn't have been done without her? Viewers were already painfully aware of Joffrey's tastes, if only because they had already shown him beating Ros when she was given to him as a gift. I suppose she allowed a bit more insight into the Littlefinger/Varys wrestling match without actually making them PoV characters, but it didn't seem very well done. So what I'm left with is tits. I've been arguing for two seasons that she was in the show for more than just tits, but apparently I was wrong.
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