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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 29 2013 14:51 GMT
#5761
On April 29 2013 23:47 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 23:45 magnaflow wrote:
Quick question, I am currently up to date on the TV show. If I were to startd reading where the show has left off where should I start?

You couldnt, after first season the show takes parts from storylines much further ahead. Even the first book isnt going very strictly by the book.

What? The first season is an extremely faithful adaption of the first book.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 14:59:40
April 29 2013 14:59 GMT
#5762
On April 29 2013 23:51 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 23:47 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 29 2013 23:45 magnaflow wrote:
Quick question, I am currently up to date on the TV show. If I were to startd reading where the show has left off where should I start?

You couldnt, after first season the show takes parts from storylines much further ahead. Even the first book isnt going very strictly by the book.

What? The first season is an extremely faithful adaption of the first book.

The first season is pretty faithful, but I would still recommend starting from the first book. Not because they change the order of things, but there are characters or events that are skipped or heavily adapted to fit the TV show. If you really wanted to skip it, you can probally do it though. I wouldn't do the same for the second book.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 29 2013 15:00 GMT
#5763
The Ned dream parts from books are alone worth reading the book.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
April 29 2013 15:00 GMT
#5764
I think you'd be pretty confused if you tried to pick the books up in the middle, you'd be missing out on a lot of details and some minor characters. Although if you really can't wait to see what happens, you have to at least start with the beginning of book 3. Book 3 and 4 focus on different storylines but take place concurrently.

That was such a good episode. The Hound v Baric Dondarrion and Jon&Ygritte are probably two of my favorite scenes from the show so far. Also its funny to watch people's opinion of Jaime changing.
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jxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil307 Posts
April 29 2013 15:14 GMT
#5765
On April 30 2013 00:00 TheFish7 wrote:
I think you'd be pretty confused if you tried to pick the books up in the middle, you'd be missing out on a lot of details and some minor characters. Although if you really can't wait to see what happens, you have to at least start with the beginning of book 3. Book 3 and 4 focus on different storylines but take place concurrently.

That was such a good episode. The Hound v Baric Dondarrion and Jon&Ygritte are probably two of my favorite scenes from the show so far. Also its funny to watch people's opinion of Jaime changing.


No, this is wrong. Book 4 and 5 take place concurrently.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
April 29 2013 15:34 GMT
#5766
Right 4 & 5. It must be Monday.
Anyway just read all the damn books you won't regret it
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 29 2013 15:43 GMT
#5767
That final scene, oh gosh so good.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 29 2013 15:52 GMT
#5768
On April 29 2013 23:45 Geo.Rion wrote:
Some minor details, regarding troop numbers really bug me, but oh well, very good episode nonetheless.

Also why make Loras heir to Highgarden? Even if the other Tyrells arent introduced, it just makes no sense. So once he joins the Kingsguard, Highgarden has no heir. logical really.... I know it wont matter in the long run, but... why? Trying to marry him to Sansa makes sense, really, but this, not so much.


I'd prefer the other Tyrells existed as well, but I understand the limitations of budget and an ever growing cast and names to keep track of. Of course Willas hasn't actually been in person in the books so they could have described him being crippled and his role in ruling High Garden much like the books, but it would be another name for people to remember. In the show Loras has not joined the Kingsguard like he did in the books. He also isn't nearly as hung up on Renly as the fling showed, where part of the reason he joined the Kingsguard is because he thought he would never love another. Unfortunately they also removed all of Loras suspicion of Brienne being behind Renly's death, so we won't get that confrontation when she and Jaime return to Kings Landing.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
April 29 2013 16:18 GMT
#5769
Season 3 is so much better than season 2 so far... just like the books.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
April 29 2013 16:40 GMT
#5770
So what is the importance of Stannis daughter that they now decide to bring her in?
I have a bad memory concerning the books. Has she done something relevant so far? Or do you guys think she will become important later on?
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 29 2013 16:48 GMT
#5771
Shireen hasn't really done anything in the books, she's just there. The wildlings probably will distrust Stannis even more if it becomes common knowledge among them that his daughter suffered the Grayscale, Val telling Jon that the girl is basicly a living dead.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
April 29 2013 16:49 GMT
#5772
On April 30 2013 01:40 Doppelganger wrote:
So what is the importance of Stannis daughter that they now decide to bring her in?
I have a bad memory concerning the books. Has she done something relevant so far? Or do you guys think she will become important later on?


There is a theory that her fool (Patchface?) is actually the great other

More likely that Melisandre will want to use her blood for something.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 16:51:49
April 29 2013 16:50 GMT
#5773
well it seems she's gonna teach Onion knight to read and probably give him THE letter
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 29 2013 16:50 GMT
#5774
On April 30 2013 01:40 Doppelganger wrote:
So what is the importance of Stannis daughter that they now decide to bring her in?
I have a bad memory concerning the books. Has she done something relevant so far? Or do you guys think she will become important later on?


Well she is likely replacing the Dragonstone Maester as the individual who teaches Davos how to read. Other than that, they have hinted in the show so far that Melisandre will be focused on Stannis sacrificing one of his own children rather than one of Robert's bastards (Edric Storm), even going so far as to having the stillborn sons in preserved jars (one of them being named Edric).

A likely scenario is Melisandre wants him to sacrifice Shireen to the Red God, and he manages to bargain her down to using one of the bottle babes. Or he contemplates doing it, but Davos sends Shireen away a la Edric Storm in the books.
karpotoss
Profile Joined November 2012
135 Posts
April 29 2013 16:50 GMT
#5775
On April 30 2013 01:40 Doppelganger wrote:
So what is the importance of Stannis daughter that they now decide to bring her in?
I have a bad memory concerning the books. Has she done something relevant so far? Or do you guys think she will become important later on?


Well if ou read the books, you can always use this site
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Shireen_Baratheon

And no, she did nothing particular during the series.
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
April 29 2013 17:10 GMT
#5776
On April 30 2013 01:50 PredY wrote:
well it seems she's gonna teach Onion knight to read and probably give him THE letter


refresh my mind, which letter are you talking about ?
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
April 29 2013 17:20 GMT
#5777
On April 30 2013 02:10 Tiwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 01:50 PredY wrote:
well it seems she's gonna teach Onion knight to read and probably give him THE letter


refresh my mind, which letter are you talking about ?

the one where Nights watch requests help against the wildlings, after which stannis sails north
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
April 29 2013 17:26 GMT
#5778
The creepy song that was sung at the closing credits was Patchface's song and dance about birds living under the ocean and shadows coming out to dance. I wonder if we'll meet patchface in the show and I wonder how significant he is going to be down the line in the books.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 29 2013 17:27 GMT
#5779
An interesting analysis of Robb's campaign in both the book and tv show.

http://racefortheironthrone.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/winning-battles-and-losing-wars-in-defense-of-robb-stark/
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armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
April 29 2013 17:56 GMT
#5780
On April 30 2013 02:26 TheFish7 wrote:
The creepy song that was sung at the closing credits was Patchface's song and dance about birds living under the ocean and shadows coming out to dance. I wonder if we'll meet patchface in the show and I wonder how significant he is going to be down the line in the books.


I assumed, judging by the fact that Shireen was singing the songs, that patchface was cut.
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