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On March 01 2012 10:02 Juicyfruit wrote:
I'm faaaaairly sure that whatever enemy will see won't be stronger than "post Nuke Meruem". At the very least, I really hope not because the power scaling would become totally screwed up. Meruem was already far too strong, and I'm pretty sure he alone could have wiped out humanity even with all the hunters ganging up on him.
Yeah and again I'm really disappointed that we didn't get to see anything of his nen abilities before he died 
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On March 01 2012 10:08 Juicyfruit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 10:03 Forikorder wrote:On March 01 2012 10:02 Juicyfruit wrote:
I'm faaaaairly sure that whatever enemy will see won't be stronger than "post Nuke Meruem". At the very least, I really hope not because the power scaling would become totally screwed up. Meruem was already far too strong. but thats becuase they manajed to elarn how to use nen he lucked out getting the nen he did and ate 2 of his guards so essentially fighting the king was fighting the kind and 2 of his guards at the exact same time the ants in the other world are probably mroe stronger but no special nen abilities I just don't see the ant in the other world being stronger. Also, even before the King ate the two royal guards he went up against the strongest human by far and crushed him without trying. And that was just with straight up brute force with no special ability involved. Nen is pretty much what makes anyone strong in HxH since it amplifies all your basic abilities.
its not like the King would be at the bottom of the food chain of the other world, remember the trash ants which were completely fodder, the royal guards were strong but not insanely strong only the king was god mode, its impossible that everytihng in the other world is king-level strong
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On March 01 2012 09:48 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 09:41 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If the bugs are from the outside world, and the bug only became powerful through eating humans and were able to use nen from consuming nen users, that means the outside world must be pretty weak. They were never strong until they came inside, and a bug that evolves through eating should logically be the strongest thing that it has ever eaten up until then. the king and his royal guards could use nen from birth unlike the opther bugs which had to learn nen erego the strength they had upon birth was the strength they would ahve had from the other world also every ant could use nen despite them not consuming nen using humans until later also heres a question whos to say the king we saw was significantly weaker then every other king in histtory?
No they were able to use nen becauset he queen devoured nen users. They had no such thing before human contact. The bugs that came later were strong only because the queen's food was strong, therefore whatever genetic materials they had before paled in comparison to the humans. Under this premisis, the onlly way that the outside world can be strong would be if the queen ants had minimal strength at every generation and its offspring are unable to pass on their strength in future queens. But that would make for a horrible evolution.
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The idea of a bigger and more dangerous world utside the known one was ripped off Toriko so hard. It's actually exactly the same..
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On March 01 2012 10:43 ddrddrddrddr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 09:48 Forikorder wrote:On March 01 2012 09:41 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If the bugs are from the outside world, and the bug only became powerful through eating humans and were able to use nen from consuming nen users, that means the outside world must be pretty weak. They were never strong until they came inside, and a bug that evolves through eating should logically be the strongest thing that it has ever eaten up until then. the king and his royal guards could use nen from birth unlike the opther bugs which had to learn nen erego the strength they had upon birth was the strength they would ahve had from the other world also every ant could use nen despite them not consuming nen using humans until later also heres a question whos to say the king we saw was significantly weaker then every other king in histtory? No they were able to use nen becauset he queen devoured nen users. They had no such thing before human contact. The bugs that came later were strong only because the queen's food was strong, therefore whatever genetic materials they had before paled in comparison to the humans. Under this premisis, the onlly way that the outside world can be strong would be if the queen ants had minimal strength at every generation and its offspring are unable to pass on their strength in future queens. But that would make for a horrible evolution.
no the original squadran leaders like the freaky hair bird dude and the lion guy all were capable of using nen, which they learnt later, and it was after they were born that they started capturing humans who actually had nen
Pitou from the moment of birth was not only able to use Nen but also profecient in using En which is probably how she was able to findthe archer hiding in the corpses
therefore Chimerae ants form that world were always able to use Nen but only the royal guards could use it instinctively
On March 01 2012 11:47 aTnClouD wrote:
The idea of a bigger and more dangerous world utside the known one was ripped off Toriko so hard. It's actually exactly the same..
the Japanese have a very common saying about frogs and wells so there being a larger world outside the normal world isnt exactly a new sorta idea this was probably planned well before the chimera ant arc
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On March 01 2012 12:09 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 10:43 ddrddrddrddr wrote:On March 01 2012 09:48 Forikorder wrote:On March 01 2012 09:41 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If the bugs are from the outside world, and the bug only became powerful through eating humans and were able to use nen from consuming nen users, that means the outside world must be pretty weak. They were never strong until they came inside, and a bug that evolves through eating should logically be the strongest thing that it has ever eaten up until then. the king and his royal guards could use nen from birth unlike the opther bugs which had to learn nen erego the strength they had upon birth was the strength they would ahve had from the other world also every ant could use nen despite them not consuming nen using humans until later also heres a question whos to say the king we saw was significantly weaker then every other king in histtory? No they were able to use nen becauset he queen devoured nen users. They had no such thing before human contact. The bugs that came later were strong only because the queen's food was strong, therefore whatever genetic materials they had before paled in comparison to the humans. Under this premisis, the onlly way that the outside world can be strong would be if the queen ants had minimal strength at every generation and its offspring are unable to pass on their strength in future queens. But that would make for a horrible evolution. no the original squadran leaders like the freaky hair bird dude and the lion guy all were capable of using nen, which they learnt later, and it was after they were born that they started capturing humans who actually had nen Pitou from the moment of birth was not only able to use Nen but also profecient in using En which is probably how she was able to findthe archer hiding in the corpses therefore Chimerae ants form that world were always able to use Nen but only the royal guards could use it instinctively Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 11:47 aTnClouD wrote:
The idea of a bigger and more dangerous world utside the known one was ripped off Toriko so hard. It's actually exactly the same.. the Japanese have a very common saying about frogs and wells so there being a larger world outside the normal world isnt exactly a new sorta idea this was probably planned well before the chimera ant arc
On top of that, Togashi already did something similar with YuYu Hakusho 20 years ago. Hardly a ripoff at all.
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To actually discuss this chapter... was anyone bummed out when Gon and Killua parted ways?
I was pretty
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On March 01 2012 12:28 Juicyfruit wrote:To actually discuss this chapter... was anyone bummed out when Gon and Killua parted ways? I was pretty
Myeah, guessing that they'll do some "training" before enetering this new world. I was slightly disappointed in how Killua just were like "oh thank so much for saving me XD that was great XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD". It was so much more emotional in the middle of the fight, now he just brushed over it. Can't wait for some good chapters though, he can do amazing art when he really strives for it.
Edit; Ofc I was bummed out that they passed ways. Killua is what made the story really interesting, especially the part when they were advancing in the tower and Killua threatened the ones who were scheming against them. Their sort of the complete opposites of eachother, which he portraits pretty nicely. While at the same time their both strong of hearts. Killua being the backside of the leaf or w/e
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On March 01 2012 12:32 Asol wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 12:28 Juicyfruit wrote:To actually discuss this chapter... was anyone bummed out when Gon and Killua parted ways? I was pretty Myeah, guessing that they'll do some "training" before enetering this new world. I was slightly disappointed in how Killua just were like "oh thank so much for saving me XD that was great XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD". It was so much more emotional in the middle of the fight, now he just brushed over it. Can't wait for some good chapters though, he can do amazing art when he really strives for it.
eh it wasnt great but gon doesnt seem the type for that anyway
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On March 01 2012 11:47 aTnClouD wrote:
The idea of a bigger and more dangerous world utside the known one was ripped off Toriko so hard. It's actually exactly the same..
Toriko ripped that off from one piece, one piece ripped that off from final fantasy three or something and final fantasy probably ripped off the actual discovery of the new world, it's just a general thing that comes up in stories now and then, its all about the execution.
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On March 01 2012 12:32 Asol wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 12:28 Juicyfruit wrote:To actually discuss this chapter... was anyone bummed out when Gon and Killua parted ways? I was pretty Myeah, guessing that they'll do some "training" before enetering this new world. I was slightly disappointed in how Killua just were like "oh thank so much for saving me XD that was great XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD". It was so much more emotional in the middle of the fight, now he just brushed over it. Can't wait for some good chapters though, he can do amazing art when he really strives for it. Edit; Ofc I was bummed out that they passed ways. Killua is what made the story really interesting, especially the part when they were advancing in the tower and Killua threatened the ones who were scheming against them. Their sort of the complete opposites of eachother, which he portraits pretty nicely. While at the same time their both strong of hearts. Killua being the backside of the leaf or w/e
Very interesting was seeing killuas cold face in start contrast to gons warm content one as they parted ways. It suggests that gons story will be more ala greed island and killua's will be more like the city/spider ark.
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The only thing that irked me a bit was how casual Gon found out who saved him.
I thought there would be bigger consequences based on this conversation a few chapters back.
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Art isn't great, but I get genuine feeling from his characters. That's what I like about Hunter X Hunter, they seem to mean it when they say something.
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On March 01 2012 12:42 Fishball wrote:The only thing that irked me a bit was how casual Gon found out who saved him. I thought there would be bigger consequences based on this conversation a few chapters back.
smoke guy didnt know the details, he seemed to think that Killua could not release info on Alluka at all and if he did there would be dire consequences, which for what he knew thats exactly it he jsut didnt know the ban was lifted
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There is no reason for Gon to actually go to the outside world. My guess is Gin and Gon will part ways.
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On March 01 2012 15:52 village_idiot wrote:
There is no reason for Gon to actually go to the outside world. My guess is Gin and Gon will part ways.
I see something more like Gon training with Gin and after that who knows meeting killua again
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On March 01 2012 15:52 village_idiot wrote:
There is no reason for Gon to actually go to the outside world. My guess is Gin and Gon will part ways.
no one can go to the outside world atm, though
but you can bet this is going to be a major plot point later. probably *the* major plotpoint of HxH where everything will center around after a given point :p
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On March 01 2012 15:52 village_idiot wrote:
There is no reason for Gon to actually go to the outside world. My guess is Gin and Gon will part ways.
i can think of one
itll be interesting
besides if his dad goes there hell follow
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On March 02 2012 02:45 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 15:52 village_idiot wrote:
There is no reason for Gon to actually go to the outside world. My guess is Gin and Gon will part ways. i can think of one itll be interesting besides if his dad goes there hell follow
Why did Gon do anything in HxH so far? He wanted to meet his father. How is it a stretch to imagine them wanting to go to the outside together? His father is very friendly with animals they could easily fly to the "outside" or a boat or even a nen dragon.
I'm excited to see what happens next.
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On March 01 2012 17:06 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 15:52 village_idiot wrote:
There is no reason for Gon to actually go to the outside world. My guess is Gin and Gon will part ways. no one can go to the outside world atm, though but you can bet this is going to be a major plot point later. probably *the* major plotpoint of HxH where everything will center around after a given point :p
Or it could be like greed island where only a select few ever get to go there...
But regardless of where this idea is coming from (new world analogy / jap folk) i like the presentation (as someone commented above) which is all that matters. It is something unimaginable that is driving Gin.
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