Hunter x Hunter - Page 24

On January 26 2012 08:11 Milkis wrote:


Being smarter, darker or unpredictable doesn't make it a "better" manga as a whole, especially if all you do is blindly assert these traits.

On January 26 2012 10:41 gumshoe wrote:


Not to the extent of one piece though, since they reached the grand line most arks(with the exception of the skypiea ark and the whole zombie island) has culminated in a major shift in the world not Just for the characters, but for the political powers at hand all of which are considerable. Also one piece explores the past as well as the present which in conjunction with the epic historian like narration makes one piece feel less like luffy's story but more the story of a rapidly changing world told from the perspective of the man who is both the embodiment and the catalyst of that change. Furthermore almost every fight in onepiece we see a mile a way because its more about the events leading up to the fight and the fights place in the grand history of one piece that matters rather than the fight itself. One piece's scope is just so much more vast than hxh. HxH's arks are almost entirely self contained in comparison not because its undeveloped, but because the style and the story telling is more about the characters rather than the events and their significance.

On January 26 2012 11:17 s4life wrote:


Well, it does in my opinion, what makes it better for you apparently is that it keeps going on and on even if it's always the same crap: new challenges -> main characters improve their skills -> main characters fight and beat the bad guys... but to each his/her own. At least I listed the traits that make a manga better for me -- and they are self-evident, HxH is darker, more mature anime than One Piece, ask anyone posting here -- certainly you didn't even go that far... very rich of your to complain about my blind assertions.

On January 26 2012 11:21 Milkis wrote:


You sure? The arcs after entering grand line are what, Alabaster (all the stuff with the Numbers included), Drum Island, Little Garden, Skypiea, Water 7, Thriller Bark, and then the Sabaody -> rest of the arc.

Out of this, Drum, Little Garden, Skypiea, and Thriller Bark were pretty self contained. Every arc before Grand Line was essentially self contained.

I would be very surprised if Hunter x Hunter at one point decides to go deeper with an arc that connects a lot of loose ends together, such as Illumi/Hisoka and of course, the current arcs being hinted at. HxH is pretty damn young when it comes to manga plot wise and I'm sure at one point Togashi will find what he should be doing with it and once he does he'll run with it.

On January 26 2012 12:37 gumshoe wrote:


I always considered drum island and little garden as part of the whole arabasta ark Also onepiece laid the foundations for deeper plot from its very inception. Look at all these strands that were established in romance dawn alone: The idea of the crew of 10, becoming pirate king, the marines, the ongoing conflict of greater and greater pirate rivals and devil fruits. What did togashi accomplish with the first chapter of hxh? Hunters are the worlds certified awesome dudes and gons internal quest that drives him to become a hunter is the need to know his father. Following that up what did we learn next? Kurapicas motive, Leorios motive, saw some cool challenges and learnt more about the characters through those challenges and eventually we learnt killuas motive as well as a vauge sense of what it means to be a hunter... From the get go onepiece has strived to cover insane amounts of ground assuming that our love for the characters would naturally come about through houmer and experience. Whereas hxh has dedicated itself to its characters, even nen is just a reflection of its owners personalities.

On January 26 2012 12:42 Milkis wrote:


I almost believe that except for the fact that Oda originally planned the story to be much, much shorter. He said something about how he originally planned the series to be 3 years long and he knew what the ending would be, but he liked the characters so much that he kept extending it.

Can you imagine One Piece being 3 years? That's only about ~150 chapters. He expanded *a lot* out of it. I'm sure quite a bit of the story were added on after the fact, and I have no doubt Togashi would be doing the same at one point. Or even imagine Naruto, where it's freaking clear Kishimoto is making shit up as he goes but in the end he put together some grand plot together.

You have to remember in HxH there's a lot of focus on Killua/Gon being one in a hundred million or something ridiculous like that -- hinted at Battle Tower and Greed Island both. There's no way they don't end up doing something amazing and we get to follow them through that journey.

Either way, it's just speculation -- I just believe that HxH won't follow this pattern forever and start developing something grander as the story draws to a close. It's simply just what happens in a shounen

On January 26 2012 12:55 gumshoe wrote:


Wow I genuinely didn't know Oda planned it out for just three years, because I always remember hearing that Oda knew every detail in op (including the ending)since the beginning, so I just assumed he always planned to just make it a huge epic, but I guess no one could really imagine dedicating 10-20 years of their life onto a single project. If Togashi does try to make something epic and grand occur I honestly feel It'll be somewhat contrived given how the manga has focused on creating a sires of interesting convincing and personalized conflicts. When Togashi starts doing something epic and big like the chimaera ant ark it becomes harder and harder to stay creative yet at the same time honest to his characters . Do you remember yu yu hakusho? By the end it had just become a rip off of dbz and we were all very tired of it, and so was Togashi, and it was all because he felt there had to be an ultimate tournament... Something grand to close off the sires. I hope he doesn't make the same mistake again with hxh ) :

On January 26 2012 14:49 XiaoLongNuSucks wrote:
Haha, great chapter as usual, very unpredictable, informative, well thought-out and suspenseful. I like how Togashi paid attention to small details such as Biscuit, Silva, Ging and Pariston were the only ones who didn't break a sweat upon seeing/sensing Alluka's aura while the other guys did--this is a testament to their power. Pariston most probably had a hunch that Gon had been healed at that moment and no doubt this smiling bastard will try to screw Leorio up with it. Leorio never gives a damn about the chairmanship in the first place but Cheadle and Mizaistom will surely manipulate him into competing with Pariston for it. Now I'm dying for chapter 334 already.

Oh, by the way, like some other guys in this thread, I put HxH above One Piece. I dropped OP near the end of the White Beard arc. Just can't read it without thinking about many similar abilities that came before in Western comics and other Japanese manga's; also, the formulaic structure of having the Straw Hats go to a new place, power-up and beat the crap out of bad guys in a series of so-called 'epic' 1-on-1 battles (most of the time they were just good guys getting pissed, pulling haki or whatever out of their asses, and pummeling bad guys at the very last moments) that Oda repeatedly used bored me to death; and I find the gags and supposedly emotional scenes in OP corny.

On February 02 2012 02:06 Milkis wrote:
great chapter

i hope gon and ging doesnt meet though