the chapters are getting better

the anime is still good but it's honestly to early to put in a filler and that's exactly what ruined the anime for me. the plot barely started and they did the worst thing they could do, put in a filler for episode 13. the worst part of it is, it's not even a regular filler where they show you new plot and stuff, its a damn recap of all the episodes with over voicing of one of the characters. what a waste of a week waiting for it.

ddrddrddrddr

1344 Posts

December 27 2011 00:39 GMT

#382

On December 27 2011 06:46 Supamang wrote:
Pretty cool chapter, but a little anticlimactic. I was hoping for a bigger clash but everything just seemed to work out somehow. I gotta wonder tho, why didnt Killua just tell them beforehand that healing Gon with Alluka would have no backlash?

Hisoka's getting interesting again

I think Killua just doesn't want to tell them anything at all about Alluka's abilities to prevent her from being used. If they knew that there's a type of wish that has no backlash, the family could effectively use her as a medkit. This could be even worse than keeping her secluded since instead of nonexistence, she's now a tool, a dangerous tool. And since we know Killua is still keeping something hidden, we know there are even more to her powers than what we know now.

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

December 27 2011 00:45 GMT

#383

Imo, Killua lied about there being no backlash. It contradicts basic Nen rules, and if you think about it, it's obvious that someone in Gon's condition won't be able to be healed for free.

ddrddrddrddr

1344 Posts

December 27 2011 00:55 GMT

#384

What rules? We've never had a power with unlimited potential in power. If you wish for the death of everyone on the planet except the wisher, the most the backlash can do is kill the wisher. Would it not happen then since equal exchange is not possible?

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

December 27 2011 01:23 GMT

#385

The rules are fairly abstract but essentially, if you want to do anything beyond really basic Nen manipulation, you need to apply a condition and a pledge.

Alluka's "wish" ability has an extremely high cost, albeit post-effect, so the power of the wish is accordingly high. In contrast, "full restore", as Killua describes, is also very powerful if you're seeking to restore someone in Gon's condition, but seems to have only the very minimum condition of making physical contact with the target. The cost-to-benefit ratio is too little, so it's almost guaranteed that there's more than just Alluka falling asleep for a little while.

Sc2ggRise

United States607 Posts

December 27 2011 01:33 GMT

#386

for some reason I can't keep killua's family's names straight. also, I love how all of his family have crazy eyes when they are ready to kill (or be killed).

Hisoka is the best character of any series I can think of though. The dude lives outside the laws of any manga I can think of - I don't give a fuck I just want to fight. Sometimes I'm good, sometimes I'm obscenely evil, and sometimes I walk away bored and build a house of cards. I'm just curious if Gon was to fight him in his current state, would he have the same abilities that he had during the 1000 floor (or however many floors it was) fighting palace? Everyone know's his abilities at this point, so I really hope he's got some other stuff up his sleeve besides nen-gum.

ddrddrddrddr

1344 Posts

December 27 2011 01:34 GMT

#387

That would depend on what metric you use. If you read full metal alchemist, you may remember the scene where the will to a whole mine is exchanged for a meal and a day's boarding. Materialistically, it was roughly equivalent, while the importance of the items is anything but. Obviously from previous wishes we could see that the cost of human lives is equal to material gain. Who's to set the price?

Besides, what it would take to heal may be entirely detached from the significance of the action. Remember when Gon and Killua went home and cured the little animal by infusing a bit of nen? Well they had no training in healing and they were able to accomplish a life saving operation by their meager training at that point. How hard is it to cure someone with over exertion? Perhaps it's incredibly difficult to most people but a snap of a finger for Alluka. Who's to set the difficulty?

Granted, this is only a manga, and it can develop however the writer wants it to. The assumptions we made can be right or wrong at a whim. I only point out that they are assumptions and that they're set in stone. You can definitely be right in the end.

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

December 27 2011 02:40 GMT

#388

It sounds kind of pedantic but basically, the value of the "cost" is determined an ability user himself. For instance, a rich person having a nen ability that costs him money will get a very weak "effect" whereas a poor person who struggles to get the same amount of money will get a much more powerful effect. You're not really "paying" anyone by fulfilling the conditions, but rather, the Nen is enhanced by your own conviction by you fulfilling a tough condition.

If the thing you're trying to do is easy, then there's little to no price to be paid. If you're trying to stretch the limit of your ability, then you need to set a particularly difficult condition.

If Gon only had physical injuries, then yeah Alluka would be able to heal him easily, but then you wouldn't need Alluka in the first place. The problem is that Gon has an absurdly powerful strong negative Nen bound to himself, which he himself placed. Since this is a matter of Nen-related illness, it becomes much more complicated and I do believe that the price for healing Gon and for healing a bird or a hand to be vastly different, since Alluka would essentially have to "overpower" the negative nen on Gon in order to remove it.

village_idiot

2436 Posts

December 27 2011 08:58 GMT

#389

This manga is million times better than other shonen jump series.

NPF

Canada1635 Posts

January 11 2012 14:52 GMT

#390

Another nice chapter,

Now Killua all alone and he can't get any support from the Hunters if anything happens, or if the Chimeras are released to the world. He'll (Vice-president Paristen) force people to vote for him after he gets the first majority and insure he wins.

That could be a likely twist to the plot. But surely Gon father will intervene into Lerio winning by accident or something lol.

Can't wait. Not to mention Gon might come back as a wild beast or something while all the hunters are trapped. Nice twist.

village_idiot

2436 Posts

January 11 2012 15:50 GMT

#391

What's with all the cocoons? What he gonna do with them?

rabidch

United States20289 Posts

January 11 2012 19:43 GMT

#392

well that was a weird skip but at least its progressing at a fast rate