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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
October 24 2011 02:58 GMT
#1161
I loved the episode!

I just started watching yesterday, but I absolutely love it. I plan on catching the rest on Netflix now.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 02:59:36
October 24 2011 02:58 GMT
#1162
On October 24 2011 11:53 p4NDemik wrote:
edit: To the people whining about the whining


Fixed that one for you there mate .

All fine and dandy you want to like it, but moaning week, after week, after week will do nothing to change it. I stated you all had reasonably valid points, but most of you overexxagerate to the point of no return where all you want is a zombie movie.

May i suggest resident evil.
Useless wet fish.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 03:11:12
October 24 2011 03:00 GMT
#1163
On October 24 2011 11:44 Kazeyonoma wrote:
I reiterate that this entire series even in the comics is about the struggles the people face and ultimately the true enemies are themselves. The zombies themselves just present themselves as both an obstacle and an urgency. People expecting l4d type zombie warfare should just stop watching and posting hate in this thread. This isn't that type of show and wasn't ever meant to be.

I mean look. First season while zombies were present and a threat. Shane, merle, the hat guy who is bit, and later the cdc guy were the REAL dangers to the group. Because they aren't mindless, they aren't predictable, and humanity takes a shit on itself when society is removed. This hasn't changed this season with otis not some fucking zombie hurting the child. And people turning on rick for losing sophia. These are the things splitting and harming the group. Hell look how quickly they fixed the black guys imminent danger with drugs. All things zombie involved are largely trivial compared to what the people themselves put themselves in.


I'd like to iterate that they were so busy freaking out about zombies and the girl missing because of zombies that they didn't think to ask people for supplies. Kind of simple irony that occurs because of zombies. Or because people are thrown into this crazy survival mode and we want to see how they'd react.

I didn't like only two parts (a record) this show. And they were both somewhat believable.

The zombie randomly showing up and almost raping Andrea can be forgiven cause she was kind of distraught at the time and coulve have wandered off slightly, but they really got wayy too far away from her to be really believable. And it could've just been a random zombie that the camera angle missed or was behind a tree until she came by. Nothing terrible there because the zombie could've just woken up from her walking. But the reason that's in the scene is to make Dale feel worse about not giving her a gun, or to promote that idea.

Not so much with the doctor. Just say, "a couple of fragments" because you can actually feel some. Don't say "six." A little more believability would be much appreciated.

Everything else was very well done. Great turnaround for the series. I liked the black guy's realization lolol. Also Daryl is fricking bad ass as usual. And zombies! I still don't like how they can run, or go up stairs. They're supposed to be dumb and "walkers." It really kills off a huge part of the comic if they can run.
There is no one like you in the universe.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 24 2011 03:01 GMT
#1164
On October 24 2011 11:08 balosan wrote:
2 minutes of zombies in whole episode of Zombie show, if i wanted drama i would read some team liquid or reddit instead of watching this


Its slow to start with but dont worry if its anything like S1 it will pick up quick.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 03:14:29
October 24 2011 03:13 GMT
#1165
You guys should watch The Talking Dead, it's basically an after-show talkshow. Both of them have been absolutely hilarious.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 24 2011 03:13 GMT
#1166
This episode was rather slow. Very little plotline was moved forward, but I'm totally excited for next week's episode tho, so much suspense at the end.
IMSmooth
Profile Joined May 2011
United States679 Posts
October 24 2011 03:17 GMT
#1167
Damn, peoples standards are so high. I like this series and will watch it however long it is on. Since when has a zombie movie or show ever had its key focus be on characters? It is about survival. People these days just want everything to be perfect or something is not good enough for them.

It reminds me of the "Getting Older" Southpark, you see shit because thats what you expect.
"Get your shit done... THEN party" - NonY
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
October 24 2011 03:20 GMT
#1168
I enjoyed the first episode because it set things up to get interesting. This episode continued to set things up which kind of annoyed me cause I am ready for some serious action. I'm sure next week we will get some good stuff.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 24 2011 03:40 GMT
#1169
Daryl has become the most balanced and even headed character in the show after his early appearances of being a hot head and really aggressive. Even when he was bashing the hope and faith thing he just cooly says "we will find her she will be ok". Badass with that crossbow action as well.
Never Knows Best.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
October 24 2011 03:49 GMT
#1170
On October 24 2011 12:40 Slaughter wrote:
Daryl has become the most balanced and even headed character in the show after his early appearances of being a hot head and really aggressive. Even when he was bashing the hope and faith thing he just cooly says "we will find her she will be ok". Badass with that crossbow action as well.


Yea, i'm really liking the direction his character is headed this season. I feel like there are people like him, who have gained a lot of depth, and then the two girls who seemed to have lost a lot of depth (with their constant complaining about being alive / missing their daughter).

But i mean, it's a zombie apocalypse, so their irrationality is kind of understood.

I've got a feeling there's definitely something up with the people in that house, I'm just trying to figure out what it is first.
moose...indian
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 24 2011 03:55 GMT
#1171
On October 24 2011 11:30 ChicoLopez wrote:


The show is quickly going downhill. How these people survived this long is beyond me. The big problem with the first episode of season 2 was how they + Show Spoiler +
ended up on the damn highway . When I first saw the guy on a chopper, I thought, ok, he's going to ride ahead and scout out the roads. Then I thought, how are they going to communicate. I see it didn't matter, since he didn't scout at all and they all got stuck on the highway. Then, wow, dozens of walkers get up to like 50 yards from them. Great. That was just a few of the problems.


Oh, and like others have said, they are all walking in a group in the woods, + Show Spoiler +
then blond chick magically gets separated and attacked by a walker.
I will continue to watch it, but they had better do something with the writing.

This guy is wrong on a few points, but basically nails it.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/kschlichter/2011/10/19/is-the-walking-dead-terminal-yes-because-its-stupid/



That is an annoying review because I doubt most people even thought about any of that "liberal shots at conservatives" BS that he is spewing. I know I sure as hell didn't who is that lame to LOOK for stuff like that in a freaking TV show?
Never Knows Best.
Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
October 24 2011 03:57 GMT
#1172
On October 19 2011 00:40 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:49 CrimsonLotus wrote:
On October 18 2011 22:53 Logo wrote:
On October 18 2011 22:15 Quotidian wrote:
For a show about zombies it's really fricking boring. They fired all the writers but couldn't come up with a better result. If this makes it to a third season, I'll be surprised

+ Show Spoiler [comic] +
So I've forgotten a lot of the comic by now, but the show pretty much has nothing to do with the comic book anymore, right? Pretty much nothing that happened in the first episode of this season happened in the book, as far as I can recall.


+ Show Spoiler [comic] +
Carl getting shot is in line with stuff that happens in the comics. As is arming themselves with melee weapons (though in the comics they're smart enough to do that themselves RIGHT AWAY).


+ Show Spoiler +
Here I'm hoping this will lead to the farm arc which will then lead to the the prison arc.

I would have liked a different story from the comics that was actually GOOD, but the writers just can't seem to do it, so I hope they'll start to follow the comic.

+ Show Spoiler +
The preview for season 2 shows Carl being taken to the farm, so I think that's where it's headed. I don't know when/how they are going to work Tyrese into the series though and I'm not sure how the prison will work if they're too afraid to deal with children (which the absence of Billy/Ben and Carl's lack of shooting Shane hint at)


+ Show Spoiler [Comic] +
Tyrese won't be in this series. With, Shane living he has replaced Tyrese. Pretty sure they won't deal with the death of any children in the show, with all of them but Carl being absent. I just hope they include one of my favorite characters from the book in the governor, but by the looks of it I don't think he'll be in the TV series.

Steemer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada98 Posts
October 24 2011 04:05 GMT
#1173
This is quickly turning into "The Lori Show". They seriously need to kill her off REALLY fast. I almost laughed at how everyone just drops what they're doing to get Lori to the farm as fast as possible, followed by epic music playing while she rides in on the sunset. Why? So she can stand there and make her wide-eyed "I'm stunned" face at Carl?

Yeah yeah, maybe I'm being a little insensitive, her kid got shot and all, but seriously; Lori needs to go.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
October 24 2011 04:16 GMT
#1174
On October 24 2011 12:17 IMSmooth wrote:
Damn, peoples standards are so high. I like this series and will watch it however long it is on. Since when has a zombie movie or show ever had its key focus be on characters? It is about survival. People these days just want everything to be perfect or something is not good enough for them.

It reminds me of the "Getting Older" Southpark, you see shit because thats what you expect.

I expected a great show last fall. I came into the first season with the best of hopes. With AMC's past success as well as critically acclaimed source material to back it up I definitely bought into the hype and thought this could be something I could validate watching every Sunday. The first episode was great. I really thought I would be enjoying it more than I am now.

As season one wore on and season two has started is has been disappointing. The season two premiere just didn't do anything for me. With news that Darabont was fired specifically due to the episode one fiasco I decided to stick it out a little longer and see what direction they take the show, because I've already invested the time to watch it thus far so I might as well stick with it a little longer. This episode was better, but still doesn't live up to the level of hype this series has gotten.

On your first point though, you're entirely right. My standards are high. Considering every Sunday I go from watching this to watching Boardwalk Empire, the difference is like night and day. I don't watch any other dramas atm. I don't watch the hoards of other shitty dramas on major network/cable television. So I'll concede that this could be considered relatively 'good' television, but it doesn't stand up to the truly great dramas over the last 10 years, and it isn't even anywhere near the best AMC has to offer.

Hopefully it will continue to improve in the coming weeks, because I'll still be watching for the time being, though if things continue at this pace I don't see myself making it through 13 episodes.
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 04:53:50
October 24 2011 04:50 GMT
#1175
i cant even watch this show anymore.... everyone is becoming so retarded.

everyone is so out of character. i liked the black guy i really did. now he's some insecure retard. the sheriff's partner says he wants to leave but goes out of his way to get the boy some help. the little girl... omg why you run somewhere else. i only like the asian guy. everyone has mental problems.
Cite
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia251 Posts
October 24 2011 05:02 GMT
#1176
Semi spoiler for this weeks epi
+ Show Spoiler +
Anyone else notice the breaking bad tribute with the blue meth in the bag for his brothers stash?
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 05:10:06
October 24 2011 05:06 GMT
#1177
Soooo... what happened with the walkers being able to smell you to find you, from season 1?

I don't really like how they can't figure out if we're supposed to like or hate certain characters. Shane gets drunk and almost rapes Lori and then two episodes later he's having a bromance with our hero. Andrea is being a total bitch for no reason.

"It's a zombie apocalypse!" is a pretty lame excuse for characters acting certain ways for no reason. Not part of the "this show sucks!" group, I will continue watching. But I hope they can get this series more focused.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 24 2011 05:35 GMT
#1178
Holy shit I just read the plot summary on the wiki page for the comic. Jesus sounds bloody as hell and just craaaazy.
Never Knows Best.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 07:59:50
October 24 2011 07:17 GMT
#1179
On October 24 2011 14:06 Karshe wrote:
Soooo... what happened with the walkers being able to smell you to find you, from season 1?

I don't really like how they can't figure out if we're supposed to like or hate certain characters. Shane gets drunk and almost rapes Lori and then two episodes later he's having a bromance with our hero. Andrea is being a total bitch for no reason.

"It's a zombie apocalypse!" is a pretty lame excuse for characters acting certain ways for no reason. Not part of the "this show sucks!" group, I will continue watching. But I hope they can get this series more focused.


Andrea is a bitch cause she wants to leave cause Dale's overprotective and she feels she's an adult. Also, she wants her bloody gun.

Shane did that 1 episode, 1 season and 1 episode ago. And obviously he's having some internal conflict from Lori telling him he can't just leave them, to how much he cares for Lori and Carl, to his longtime friendship with Rick. He doesn't hate Rick, he's just pissed off at what's happening to his half-perfect world (half from zombies) before Rick returned.

The black guy was high from a fever the entire episode, but has sort of a revelation moment from insanity and burning up. We should be seeing more of those as people start falling apart.

Asian guy hasn't done anything noteworthy yet except save Rick. That's going to change probably now that I think about it...

Bald-ish lady is dead inside cause she lost her husband and her daughter (and no one cares (99% leave on episode 1 talking dead lolol)).

Rick is being pulled apart by his son, and how much he owes Shane for all his help, and his own decisions as a leader since he's the one that let Carl stay with them and that came from leaving the bald lady's daughter alone.

Lori is kind of an asshat, but it's still somewhat believable by being mad at everyone. There's really no other way for her to act though. Stupid horse scene, I cringed. Thank God it was just her crying and not happy reunion kiss time...

And of course, Daryl is a total baller.


They explained the smelling part in the first episode of the Talking Dead I think, where they said it's not like hypersensitive, but they can distinguish friend and foe pretty easily with all of their senses combined. Smelling people hiding under cars is completely different from smelling people walking by you wearing zombie guts, and then having the rain wash off the guts. Also, rain makes things smellier. I'm not sure why you guys are so hung up over this still.

And it's like the Game of Thrones. Are you even supposed to like or hate characters? Or are you supposed to like all humans since it's humans versus zombies? These things still exist in a zombie reality, and that's what the show is trying to present. It's a zombie apocalypse, but we're arguing over liking or hating characters. I think the show has done a good job so far then.

These are the premises I've gathered from watching the show and reading the comic, and I try to remember them to help me enjoy the show more. But in the end, I love zombies, and everyone here does. So let's just enjoy that.
There is no one like you in the universe.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 24 2011 07:28 GMT
#1180
[QUOTE]On October 24 2011 16:17 Blisse wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 24 2011 14:06 Karshe wrote:
And of course, Daryl is a total baller. [/QUOTE]

Out of all of the characters so far, Daryl is my favorite and second would be Glenn. You can see how much Daryl has changed from season 1. If this was season 1, he probably would have let T-Dog suffer and not give a crap about Sophia.
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