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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
November 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#5541
On November 27 2012 14:32 blug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 13:43 rd wrote:
On November 27 2012 13:40 Talack wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:36 Glazed wrote:
So, was the hermit unaware of the zombie apocalypse? His house was boarded, and he had a shotgun by his bed, yet he still believes the police force and therefore society is still intact?
If so, how...?


All alone out in the middle of nowhere, lots of people live like that with no contact whatsoever with the outside world. In this case it's possible that he thinks the world is functioning just fine and the zombies (he might have only seen 1-2 at most this entire time he's so deep in the forest) are just crazy hill-billies or something.


Theres a dead dog in his house, which was remarked as smelling particularly bad. The house was boarded up and full of cans. He has to be aware of the apocalypse but extremely demented. I'd assume he's probably just schizophrenic. I can't think it impossible in this world to be a year into an apocalypse for 1 person on the planet to be so delusional they seemingly aren't aware of it.


I think it was pretty dumb lol. No one could survive like that assuming he only became crazy in the last day or so. They should of made the guy some paranoid redneck, not some guy who is oblivious to the whole apocalypse.


What annoyed me was that the hermit was storming outside to get away from the group. Then he gets killed, and they throw him outside anyway. Wtf Michonne.
kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
November 27 2012 10:13 GMT
#5542
On November 27 2012 19:07 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 14:32 blug wrote:
On November 27 2012 13:43 rd wrote:
On November 27 2012 13:40 Talack wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:36 Glazed wrote:
So, was the hermit unaware of the zombie apocalypse? His house was boarded, and he had a shotgun by his bed, yet he still believes the police force and therefore society is still intact?
If so, how...?


All alone out in the middle of nowhere, lots of people live like that with no contact whatsoever with the outside world. In this case it's possible that he thinks the world is functioning just fine and the zombies (he might have only seen 1-2 at most this entire time he's so deep in the forest) are just crazy hill-billies or something.


Theres a dead dog in his house, which was remarked as smelling particularly bad. The house was boarded up and full of cans. He has to be aware of the apocalypse but extremely demented. I'd assume he's probably just schizophrenic. I can't think it impossible in this world to be a year into an apocalypse for 1 person on the planet to be so delusional they seemingly aren't aware of it.


I think it was pretty dumb lol. No one could survive like that assuming he only became crazy in the last day or so. They should of made the guy some paranoid redneck, not some guy who is oblivious to the whole apocalypse.


What annoyed me was that the hermit was storming outside to get away from the group. Then he gets killed, and they throw him outside anyway. Wtf Michonne.

This nitpicking is getting kind of annoying. Not you personally, but from everyone I guess...

To be fair with Michonne and what happened right there, they still didn't know the backside was safe to escape.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 27 2012 10:26 GMT
#5543
On November 27 2012 19:07 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 14:32 blug wrote:
On November 27 2012 13:43 rd wrote:
On November 27 2012 13:40 Talack wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:36 Glazed wrote:
So, was the hermit unaware of the zombie apocalypse? His house was boarded, and he had a shotgun by his bed, yet he still believes the police force and therefore society is still intact?
If so, how...?


All alone out in the middle of nowhere, lots of people live like that with no contact whatsoever with the outside world. In this case it's possible that he thinks the world is functioning just fine and the zombies (he might have only seen 1-2 at most this entire time he's so deep in the forest) are just crazy hill-billies or something.


Theres a dead dog in his house, which was remarked as smelling particularly bad. The house was boarded up and full of cans. He has to be aware of the apocalypse but extremely demented. I'd assume he's probably just schizophrenic. I can't think it impossible in this world to be a year into an apocalypse for 1 person on the planet to be so delusional they seemingly aren't aware of it.


I think it was pretty dumb lol. No one could survive like that assuming he only became crazy in the last day or so. They should of made the guy some paranoid redneck, not some guy who is oblivious to the whole apocalypse.


What annoyed me was that the hermit was storming outside to get away from the group. Then he gets killed, and they throw him outside anyway. Wtf Michonne.

Because if they would have let him open the door on his own, he would have seen the zombies and.. would immediately turn around to flee. And the house would flood with zombies. Not exactly what you want when you're in the house...
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 11:26:29
November 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#5544
Can someone tell Maggie about this thing called lying, I hear its pretty effective and why didnt Michonne tell Rick about Merle or Andrea? Is she this stupid in the comics or is it only a TV show thing?

The writing for season 3 has been really bad so far, Im talking season 2 finale bad.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#5545
On November 27 2012 20:13 Bowzar wrote:
Can someone tell Maggie about this thing called lying, I hear its pretty effective and why didnt Michonne tell Rick about Merle or Andrea? Is she this stupid in the comics or is it only a TV show thing?

The writing for season 3 has been really bad so far, Im talking season 2 finale bad.

Telling them about Merle would only provoke Daryl to go stupid. She overheard Merle talking about his brother when he took Glen and the girl. Not mentioning his name was extremely smart.
About not mentioning Andrea, well she has her reasons, and many of them would be logical. For one Andrea decided to stay and Michonne didn't want Rick to know that or ask about more details. She is clearly very guarded person and speaks only when she needs to.
starchosengirl
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia39 Posts
November 27 2012 12:33 GMT
#5546
On November 27 2012 13:40 RodrigoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 13:39 Wortie wrote:
I really dislike the fact the governor didn't actually rape maggie, it would have been such a bold move for the show. Instead they're keeping it rather soft... The fact that so many people like Game of Thrones, is the fact that they don't hold back on anything. Really dissapointed.


You're dumb. You can't do that on television. On NETWORK television. You don't have any kind of argument.


you should be able to see rape on tv when you see other absurd things all the time. stupidity is one of them, it breeds young american intellectuals into bible thumping ghetto foo's


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serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
November 27 2012 13:46 GMT
#5547
After Glen killed that zombie I wanted him to shout, "Man mode! I'm a man!!!"
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
November 27 2012 14:06 GMT
#5548
I saw rape on sons of anarchy... in season 3 or something. but i guess its about the network / private network whatever thing in the US.. its pretty shallow in my opinion.
In Germany shows get rated by an independent institution.. free to watch for people at 0 - 6 - 12 - 16 - 18 years old or banned.
The walking dead is rated 18+ anyway so adding rape wouldnt make any difference.
The sons of anarchy is rated 16, although there is rape, but less bloody.

So by those standards it wouldnt make any sense to hold back on anything, but the US standards are just shallow so that you cant show rape or a loris dead body, but you can show guts and blood in infite amounts...
Isnt there any protection against that? because in Germany this kinds of shows must only be availabe from 11pm - 6am, so kids dont watch. (not a perfect mean to achieve that but whatever^^)

I just dont see a clear line of what you can do and what you cant.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
November 27 2012 14:14 GMT
#5549
On November 27 2012 20:13 Bowzar wrote:
Can someone tell Maggie about this thing called lying, I hear its pretty effective and why didnt Michonne tell Rick about Merle or Andrea? Is she this stupid in the comics or is it only a TV show thing?

The writing for season 3 has been really bad so far, Im talking season 2 finale bad.

That would be pretty stupid. She has no idea rick even know where they are. For all she knows they could be there awhile. What happens to Glenn when the Governor/Merle go out only to find that she was lying. I don't think she is stupid, however you might be shortsighted.

I wouldn't have lied if my gf had a gun to her head either.
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
November 27 2012 14:17 GMT
#5550
On November 27 2012 21:33 starchosengirl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 13:40 RodrigoX wrote:
On November 27 2012 13:39 Wortie wrote:
I really dislike the fact the governor didn't actually rape maggie, it would have been such a bold move for the show. Instead they're keeping it rather soft... The fact that so many people like Game of Thrones, is the fact that they don't hold back on anything. Really dissapointed.


You're dumb. You can't do that on television. On NETWORK television. You don't have any kind of argument.


you should be able to see rape on tv when you see other absurd things all the time. stupidity is one of them, it breeds young american intellectuals into bible thumping ghetto foo's


That guy doesn't know what he's talking about anyway. AMC showed rape in Mad Men several years ago.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
November 27 2012 15:40 GMT
#5551
Great Episode. but really strange why Michonne didn't tell anything about Andrea.
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Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
November 27 2012 16:01 GMT
#5552
On November 28 2012 00:40 ne4aJIb wrote:
Great Episode. but really strange why Michonne didn't tell anything about Andrea.



If i knew andrea, i wouldn't want to admit being friends with that scum bag either ;p
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Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 17:22:58
November 27 2012 17:21 GMT
#5553
Relax guys, the Governor might still rape someone. If the writers had wanted Maggie to be raped, they would have implied it and cut away. As others have pointed out, AMC shows have depicted rape in the past. We don't know why they didn't go down that road here.
ESPORTS prevails
starchosengirl
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia39 Posts
November 27 2012 17:30 GMT
#5554
On November 27 2012 17:05 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 16:47 Msr wrote:
I haven't seen the comics, are the same people who die in the comics, dieing in the show aswell?


Comics obv

+ Show Spoiler +
No, several people are either still alive, not in the comics all together, or comic characters arn't in the show at all. It's a wierd collage of all three, no one really knows whats gonna happen.


Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 16:42 seansye wrote:
On November 27 2012 13:40 RodrigoX wrote:
On November 27 2012 13:39 Wortie wrote:
I really dislike the fact the governor didn't actually rape maggie, it would have been such a bold move for the show. Instead they're keeping it rather soft... The fact that so many people like Game of Thrones, is the fact that they don't hold back on anything. Really dissapointed.


You're dumb. You can't do that on television. On NETWORK television. You don't have any kind of argument.


Major plot twist: Maggie becomes pregnant. Dun dun dun.



And the baby is black, dun dun dun.



ROFLROFLROFL

in all seriousness i would be interested in seeing what happens to glen .. but, I love glen and I would stop watching if he shot himself.. so.. to risky

Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. Friedrich Nietzsche
starchosengirl
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia39 Posts
November 27 2012 17:31 GMT
#5555
On November 27 2012 17:06 BlackPaladin wrote:
They could have just had the governor undo his belt and then cut to outside the door where you simply hear maggie scream. They don't jeed to SHOW it on national television, just imply it happened. You already know the governor is fucking twisted with killing people off, keeping his undead daughter in his room, and having zombie heads in tanks in his living room. It's not like you're going "oh that governor dude seems like such a nice guy, he'd never do something evil....like rape maggie!"

Too long is the tv series holding stuff back. Just take the leap forward and do it. Make it dark as shit. That's what TWD really is: a very dark human drama which is meant to question your morals. The whole ZA is merely a plot device to bring everything out. When things go to shit, how would a person act? It's meant to get you thinking of what you would do and question yourself. That's what TWD is about, not Lori pmsing for an entire year and then "omg carl shot his bitchy mother! Traumatized for life!" This isn't and shouldn't be As the World Turns.



agreed. the vicious man eating zombie parasite that plagues the earth isn't enough.

WE. WANT. RAPE!
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. Friedrich Nietzsche
Goobus
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong587 Posts
November 27 2012 17:37 GMT
#5556
I'm interested in finding out what happens to merle when the governor finds out he lied about michonne being dead.. And how daryl potentially plays into that OOOh
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 27 2012 17:39 GMT
#5557
On November 28 2012 02:37 Goobus wrote:
I'm interested in finding out what happens to merle when the governor finds out he lied about michonne being dead.. And how daryl potentially plays into that OOOh

I could see it playing out with Merle turning on the Governor and joining the group, which Rick will allow because he feels guilty about leaving him on the roof. Of course, it'll end up a huge point of contention in later seasons, and conflict is a good thing.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
November 27 2012 17:54 GMT
#5558
Maybe it's not them holding it back, but they're showing that the Governor isn't as fucking sick and twisted as you all want him to be? Shit has to get pretty fucking bad before you rape someone, and from what we've seen, the Governor is pretty twisted, but maybe he's still human, and the writers are trying to show that he's a different person than from the comics and hasn't broken down into animals yet? Not raping her was much more suspenseful imo. You could hear yourself sigh when he walked away.
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sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 19:11:44
November 27 2012 17:59 GMT
#5559
On November 28 2012 02:21 Hashbaz wrote:
Relax guys, the Governor might still rape someone. If the writers had wanted Maggie to be raped, they would have implied it and cut away. As others have pointed out, AMC shows have depicted rape in the past. We don't know why they didn't go down that road here.


In this behind-the-scenes video, Steven Yeun very specifically says that "Glenn knows Maggie was just raped."

I haven't followed the discussion in this thread so far, but I thought it was very heavily implied when I watched.

EDIT: SpikeStarcraft points out that this is incorrect. I was remembering from watching it yesterday and heard the phrasing wrong.
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Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
November 27 2012 18:03 GMT
#5560
Hmmm, I thought it was very clear that she wasn't raped. She is brought into Glenn's room in exactly the same state as when the Governor abruptly left the room after looking like he was going to rape her but then stopping. Perhaps it looks that way to Glenn, but in actuality I think we the viewers know she was not.
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