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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
March 12 2012 03:52 GMT
#3361
Jesus a lot of people don't know how to read? Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book. When I open a spoiler without any description of what it is, I assume it's cautious people talking about the most recent episode, but now a ton of people are talking about the end of the season or shit I don't even understand, what the fuck.
tdynasty
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada220 Posts
March 12 2012 03:52 GMT
#3362
Man.

Them zombies got nothing on carl.

The probly killing off cast for season 2.
French Canada
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
March 12 2012 03:59 GMT
#3363
This show is so frustrating. Amazing final scene until these zombies (none of which they have seen in hours of wandering around in the woods) all of a sudden are a 60sec shuffle from the farm. It is like the writers don't care at all for continuities sake and assume we have the memories of goldfish.

In not complaining news, really interesting development with the no bite infections. I have not read the comics, so this is a crazy new idea. Our apartment was guessing Shane was infected and got the kid sick through blood to blood contact on his cut up wrists. I can surmise from other posts this is probably not the case. Walking Dead for a name is so much more badass now.
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Goliath0nline
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada165 Posts
March 12 2012 04:04 GMT
#3364
Think this is the last season? I honestly think it might.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
March 12 2012 04:05 GMT
#3365
On March 12 2012 13:04 -IceStarcraft- wrote:
Think this is the last season? I honestly think it might.


The show is doing amazingly well, tons of viewers and already renewed for season 3, so yeah i do think season 2 is definitely the last season.
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
March 12 2012 04:06 GMT
#3366
Well the only thing that those two guys had in common was that they were both bleeding and had opened wounds.

This was a really well done episode. Lori talking to Shane was well done and Shane was one smart guy, to actually pull this off was pretty good on his part.

I do think it was too quick for him to become a walker, as for the no bite = walker who knows, I mean they have been exposed to walkers for so long that maybe the virus just stays inside them or something.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
March 12 2012 04:16 GMT
#3367
On March 12 2012 13:06 -JoKeR- wrote:
Well the only thing that those two guys had in common was that they were both bleeding and had opened wounds.

This was a really well done episode. Lori talking to Shane was well done and Shane was one smart guy, to actually pull this off was pretty good on his part.

I do think it was too quick for him to become a walker, as for the no bite = walker who knows, I mean they have been exposed to walkers for so long that maybe the virus just stays inside them or something.


At the end of season 1, Dr. Jenner said that the time it takes for a person to become a walker varies wildly from a few minutes to several hours.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 12 2012 04:17 GMT
#3368
wow really liked this episode.

just a real quick (probably dumb) question, but this was probably the final episode of s2 right?
Forever Young
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
March 12 2012 04:18 GMT
#3369
On March 12 2012 13:17 sung_moon wrote:
wow really liked this episode.

just a real quick (probably dumb) question, but this was probably the final episode of s2 right?


Next week is the season finale
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Doz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States145 Posts
March 12 2012 04:18 GMT
#3370
On March 12 2012 11:52 bellz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 11:09 Crazyeyes wrote:
lol @ Disengaged failing hte spoiler.
Okay, so with this new revelation of apparently everyoen becoming a zombie no matter what, I have a question:
If Rick (random example) gets bitten but does not die, will he eventually turn into a zombie like in regular zombie movies? Or does he have to die first?


All of the living are infected with an inactive strain of the virus that becomes active once they die. Zombies are carrying active strains so If the living get bitten etc. the active virus kills them and either turns them or their passive infection kicks in. Anyway it doesn't really make sense how a bite or scratch would transmit the active virus while blood, close contact, inhalation (think of them standing around after burning the zombie bodies, just like the security guards) seemingly does not. But one can't read too much into the medical science of zombies or we would become sorely disappointed that most conceptions of zombies are absurd. I don't think I've ever seen a zombie in any movie drink water, but the muscles in the human body would literally not be able to function without it, or without blood for that matter, which begs the question why can't zombies bleed to death (yea I know they are already dead), or why don't gunshots to the chest work since the lower portion of the brain is still semi-working (as seen in the season 1 finale), it would still need oxygen to function at all. Meh.


FFS, spoiler tag plox
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
March 12 2012 04:19 GMT
#3371
On March 12 2012 11:45 Crazyeyes wrote:
Shit, I hope you're wrong. Daryl is the last person who I really like.
Well Glen's pretty cool too but he's panzified a little.

So about this comic: How long is it? I think I wnana pick it up.


Right now were on Comic 93 I think and each one is about 25 pages.
so about 2000 + pages to read.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 12 2012 04:25 GMT
#3372
On March 12 2012 13:18 imPERSONater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 13:17 sung_moon wrote:
wow really liked this episode.

just a real quick (probably dumb) question, but this was probably the final episode of s2 right?


Next week is the season finale



ahhhh ok thanks a lot
Forever Young
Heff87
Profile Joined November 2011
United States106 Posts
March 12 2012 04:38 GMT
#3373
Carl is finally a relevant character! Sort of. I still can't believe Glenn is being such a little bitch though, hot chick his age into him and willing to screw him under her dad's roof during a zombie apocalypse? Yeah, better push her away because you care about her. Idiot. It's drama for drama's sake and makes no sense. Maybe T-Dog will move in and take her and make Glenn so jealous he kills him. Yep, callin it now...T-Dog doesn't make it to 100 lines in the entire series before Glenn kills him.
VGTA
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 12 2012 04:42 GMT
#3374
On March 12 2012 13:18 Doz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 11:52 bellz wrote:
On March 12 2012 11:09 Crazyeyes wrote:
lol @ Disengaged failing hte spoiler.
Okay, so with this new revelation of apparently everyoen becoming a zombie no matter what, I have a question:
If Rick (random example) gets bitten but does not die, will he eventually turn into a zombie like in regular zombie movies? Or does he have to die first?


All of the living are infected with an inactive strain of the virus that becomes active once they die. Zombies are carrying active strains so If the living get bitten etc. the active virus kills them and either turns them or their passive infection kicks in. Anyway it doesn't really make sense how a bite or scratch would transmit the active virus while blood, close contact, inhalation (think of them standing around after burning the zombie bodies, just like the security guards) seemingly does not. But one can't read too much into the medical science of zombies or we would become sorely disappointed that most conceptions of zombies are absurd. I don't think I've ever seen a zombie in any movie drink water, but the muscles in the human body would literally not be able to function without it, or without blood for that matter, which begs the question why can't zombies bleed to death (yea I know they are already dead), or why don't gunshots to the chest work since the lower portion of the brain is still semi-working (as seen in the season 1 finale), it would still need oxygen to function at all. Meh.


FFS, spoiler tag plox

You should have surmised something like this (even though the above isn't entirely correct) if you watched the episode and paid attention. There aren't any spoilers there.
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 12 2012 04:51 GMT
#3375
I did like how they put the camera on Shane for a few seconds after each little "zombie vision"

A friend was like "Dude, do you think the zombies are like connected somehow because of those little visions. All I could do was be like "Wut"
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
March 12 2012 04:54 GMT
#3376
This doesnt make any sense at all HAHA.

Did i miss an episode? What did happen that they suddenly start to move into the house and run patrols etc? A random walker? They sat on their asses on that farm for like weeks and did nothing and then a random walker shows up and they start to fortify the farm? WTF?

And then ofcourse a random army of walkers show up. Their spidey senses mustve been tingling to suspect those walkers showing up.

Why are these writers SO stupid? They arent even trying!

That beeing said , im still enjoying the show somehow....
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
March 12 2012 04:56 GMT
#3377
so from what I understand:

Hershall doesn't want to leave the farm, and he seems pretty damn stubborn about it from the preview of the next episode. I wonder if we will have another Andrea-like rescue. But his mind should be pretty easy to change since he seems like a rational fellow (minus the whole curing the zombies, still kind of understandable though).

I think what will happen is as follows: Maggie will need to decide between Glen and Hershall. Glen will leave with the group, but regardless if Maggie goes with him or not, he will end up going back to save Hershall to either get Maggie, or to prove to her (and himself) that he is strong enough to do something like that.

I expect a shit ton of deaths. Probably will be a nice cast clean up. Here are some of the easy ones to pick:

- Sophia's mother (can't even remember her name), because Sophia is dead and she brings nothing to the table. She is long over due to be quite honest. She has no real character archetype that would move this story forward)
- Maggie's siblings (her sister and I think she has a brother too, but he will go)
- T-dog (they don't really seem to have an idea how to properly use him in the story... maybe they are saving him for later? who knows)

Less obvious:

- Hershall (well he would be obvious, considering he seems to have passed the reigns to Glen symbolized by the watch. However, with Dale gone, they seem to have no old guy)
- Andrea (Dale is gone, Shane is gone, she has no one that specifically cares about her)
- Lori (wishful thinking)


All I could think of for now
We talkin about PRACTICE
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 12 2012 04:58 GMT
#3378
On March 12 2012 13:54 chroniX wrote:
This doesnt make any sense at all HAHA.

Did i miss an episode? What did happen that they suddenly start to move into the house and run patrols etc? A random walker? They sat on their asses on that farm for like weeks and did nothing and then a random walker shows up and they start to fortify the farm? WTF?

And then ofcourse a random army of walkers show up. Their spidey senses mustve been tingling to suspect those walkers showing up.

Why are these writers SO stupid? They arent even trying!

That beeing said , im still enjoying the show somehow....


You do realize that the army of walkers in the forest could be the horde of zombies that the group came across in the first episode where they had to hide and just let them pass by. Other walkers probably just joined them and they ended up in that forest. I dunno, but thats the only thing I can think of.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 05:00:27
March 12 2012 04:58 GMT
#3379
On March 12 2012 11:05 cscarfo1 wrote:
next week will be the greatest episode in the shows first 2 seasons. Carl finally maned up. Saw T-Dog for a solid 5 mins. Great episode to me

Yeah and he got to say the stereotypical "AWWW HELLL NO" line ... just because he saw a fraction more screen time and got two lines doesn't mean that anything has improved on that front. He's still the token black guy and a sad reminder of how much better the comic is than the show in that it wasn't scared to have a strong african american lead.

T-Dog is still the same blank slate he was when he entered the season and that's sad because who knows how many of the regular cast will be killed off the next episode. Someone mentioned how he doesn't ever even go out to do any of the dirty work even while Glen has been shown to apparently not have a stomach for it. Things like that, its like they don't care if the plot is less believable, they don't have any faith in the actor, or they just don't care about the character. If he dies without any development at all ... ugh.

On March 12 2012 11:52 bellz wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 11:09 Crazyeyes wrote:
lol @ Disengaged failing hte spoiler.
Okay, so with this new revelation of apparently everyoen becoming a zombie no matter what, I have a question:
If Rick (random example) gets bitten but does not die, will he eventually turn into a zombie like in regular zombie movies? Or does he have to die first?


All of the living are infected with an inactive strain of the virus that becomes active once they die. Zombies are carrying active strains so If the living get bitten etc. the active virus kills them and either turns them or their passive infection kicks in. Anyway it doesn't really make sense how a bite or scratch would transmit the active virus while blood, close contact, inhalation (think of them standing around after burning the zombie bodies, just like the security guards) seemingly does not. But one can't read too much into the medical science of zombies or we would become sorely disappointed that most conceptions of zombies are absurd. I don't think I've ever seen a zombie in any movie drink water, but the muscles in the human body would literally not be able to function without it, or without blood for that matter, which begs the question why can't zombies bleed to death (yea I know they are already dead), or why don't gunshots to the chest work since the lower portion of the brain is still semi-working (as seen in the season 1 finale), it would still need oxygen to function at all. Meh.

There is no "active strain" and "inactive strain." In the comics you eventually operate on the assumption that everyone has been infected through normal interaction with the living. How it is transmitted you don't find out, but you know everyone is already infected before any bites/scratches/fluid transfers with zombies or anything. When a zombie bites you, you die because you contract any number of diseases that those rotting corpses are infected with. You don't die from the "active" strain, you just die of all the normal bacterial diseases that have been going around for millions of years. I don't see any reason to assume otherwise here.

Overall I thought the episode was solid. Early on it was underwhelming, with the scene where Rick has a heart-to-heart with Carl getting pretty much ruined for me by the "The More You Know" style piano score. Seriously they overdid it there I was almost laughing they took a serious talk and made it sound like something out of a Hallmark movie. And the aforementioned T-Dog line was blah so typical and annoying.

I liked the way things played out in the comic as far as Shane's death goes (in the comic Carl shoots a still-living Shane and that is what serves as a catalyst for his development as a character). It had far more emotional issues surrounding it and how it affects Carl, but considering that kid they have in this show can't act worth a damn its probably for the best. Besides the way they depicted Rick doing it himself was pretty awesome, I really liked how it was executed.

Past that I have a few minor complaints about how the search played out - mostly how they walked so far through the woods, didn't seem to indicate they had turned around or anything, and then all of the sudden they're within eye-shot of the house. Considering the time that passed (it was dusk when Shane came back with his nose broken, then pretty damn dark by the time Shane died twice) it seemed like they should have been miles away from the house, or at least not within eye shot with it appearing as large in the frame as it did. That's just lazy work, but I guess they just really wanted that shot with the moon behind the two so much that a momentary "wait, wtf moment" for the audience was worth it to them.

Looking forward to the finale. Let the blood flow.

edit: Oh and I thought Shane's little zombie acid trip transformation thing was just horrible. Just have him get up. Keep it simple.
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 12 2012 05:00 GMT
#3380
On March 12 2012 13:56 mprs wrote:

I think what will happen is as follows: Maggie will need to decide between Glen and Hershall. Glen will leave with the group, but regardless if Maggie goes with him or not, he will end up going back to save Hershall to either get Maggie, or to prove to her (and himself) that he is strong enough to do something like that.


Well, Glen can give Maggie what Hershel can't, and that is SEXY TIME ooooooh yeaaaah. Should be an easy choice for her
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