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On February 28 2012 08:59 purecarnagge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 08:35 p4NDemik wrote:On February 28 2012 06:58 purecarnagge wrote:
Season 3 they will be on the move. Hopefully with the ratings and the bitching by the community the budget goes up. remember AMC doesn't own the walking dead, so the owners can sit there and say we want x amount of money we felt you improperly funded us last season. And its not like another network isn't going to pick up the show.
On the move = more walkers which for me would be a good thing. Actually I'm 99% sure they do own TWD. Everyone on the show is at AMC's mercy. It isn't like Breaking Bad or Mad Men. I could be wrong I thought they owned the TV rights, but not the actual tv show which is why they have to re-order etc. I have a buddy who lives for this stuff, he always talks comic vs show and he prob just confused the crap out of me.
Yeah they own it all afaik. That was the issue with the budget cuts - the order came down from AMC execs and everyone was forced to work with it, there wasn't room for negotiation or anything.
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just imagine if FX or spike had this thing under contract... 
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couple things about this episode, good and bad.
Good: Liked the symbolism. Rick and Shane arguing at the 'crossroads' of their relationship while actually standing in a crossroad. Shane's reflection on the glass portraying him as a zombie, then a zombie actually popping out. A lone zombie businessman spinning his wheels in an open field, while Shane is spinning his wheels within a group that doesnt trust him. The two zombie cops making Rick not leave Shane.
Also liked the gore in this one. I really felt the desperation when the bodies were piling on top of Rick and he couldn't move. The excited emotion of the kid stabbing the girl zombie in the head so many times.
The women are starting to develop past being silent weak counterparts to the men, and I like that too.
Bad: Why not just run out of the bus in the first place? Didn't like the beginning scene either. Good example of bad foreshadowing.
Why aren't they conserving their resources more? Driving all that way to just turn around and bring the kid back seems like a waste. Also can't help but think how there has been no repercussion from Lori crashing the car. Seems assets like that would be valued.
overall, very good episode
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On February 28 2012 09:20 ZaplinG wrote:
couple things about this episode, good and bad.
Good: Liked the symbolism. Rick and Shane arguing at the 'crossroads' of their relationship while actually standing in a crossroad. Shane's reflection on the glass portraying him as a zombie, then a zombie actually popping out. A lone zombie businessman spinning his wheels in an open field, while Shane is spinning his wheels within a group that doesnt trust him. The two zombie cops making Rick not leave Shane.
Also liked the gore in this one. I really felt the desperation when the bodies were piling on top of Rick and he couldn't move. The excited emotion of the kid stabbing the girl zombie in the head so many times.
The women are starting to develop past being silent weak counterparts to the men, and I like that too.
Bad: Why not just run out of the bus in the first place? Didn't like the beginning scene either. Good example of bad foreshadowing.
Why aren't they conserving their resources more? Driving all that way to just turn around and bring the kid back seems like a waste. Also can't help but think how there has been no repercussion from Lori crashing the car. Seems assets like that would be valued.
overall, very good episode
Yeah it seems there is no real repercussions for anything. Andrea shoots Daryl in the head and no one even says anything too her. So nearly blowing someones head off after being told to not shoot 5+ times by everyone is totally cool.
Lori does some stupid shit destroys a car and however much fuel was there and she could have died in a hostage type situation too. No one says a thing.
Andrea almost lets the girl kill herself and Lori knows Andrea probably egged her on or at least knowingly let her do it. Not a word.
Andrea seems to be getting stupider and stupider imo. I actually agreed with what lori was saying for once.
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why would they care about a car? There are cars everywhere and fuel is most likely no problem either because they can just take the fuel out of the abbandoned cars.
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On February 28 2012 10:25 Skilledblob wrote:
why would they care about a car? There are cars everywhere and fuel is most likely no problem either because they can just take the fuel out of the abbandoned cars.
That means someone needs to go into the open and a potentially deadly situation to fix something that shouldn't have happened in the first place because of someone being stupid.
Theres almost no consequences in a lot of ways and it feels fake. Lori gets into a huge wreck and no ones speaks of it again. Andrea almost kills daryl and he pretty much walks it off a day later and again no one talks about it ever again. Those are two pretty huge events and I personally would not just let it slide.
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randall looks like he can hold his own. i like him better than some of the main cast. hope they don't kill him.
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On February 28 2012 10:34 JimSocks wrote:
randall looks like he can hold his own. i like him better than some of the main cast. hope they don't kill him.
He is a super human, they should keep him he healed a wound that would take forever in a matter of a week!
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On February 28 2012 10:18 tokicheese wrote:
Lori does some stupid shit destroys a car and however much fuel was there and she could have died in a hostage type situation too. No one says a thing.
Andrea complained about her destroying the car, but I agree it wasn`t enough.
Another thing that felt weird was how they never questioned the kid about the other group. How large, location, supplies etc. I mean, Shane should at least make the case for torturing him, right?
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On February 28 2012 10:18 tokicheese wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 09:20 ZaplinG wrote:
couple things about this episode, good and bad.
Good: Liked the symbolism. Rick and Shane arguing at the 'crossroads' of their relationship while actually standing in a crossroad. Shane's reflection on the glass portraying him as a zombie, then a zombie actually popping out. A lone zombie businessman spinning his wheels in an open field, while Shane is spinning his wheels within a group that doesnt trust him. The two zombie cops making Rick not leave Shane.
Also liked the gore in this one. I really felt the desperation when the bodies were piling on top of Rick and he couldn't move. The excited emotion of the kid stabbing the girl zombie in the head so many times.
The women are starting to develop past being silent weak counterparts to the men, and I like that too.
Bad: Why not just run out of the bus in the first place? Didn't like the beginning scene either. Good example of bad foreshadowing.
Why aren't they conserving their resources more? Driving all that way to just turn around and bring the kid back seems like a waste. Also can't help but think how there has been no repercussion from Lori crashing the car. Seems assets like that would be valued.
overall, very good episode Yeah it seems there is no real repercussions for anything. Andrea shoots Daryl in the head and no one even says anything too her. So nearly blowing someones head off after being told to not shoot 5+ times by everyone is totally cool. Lori does some stupid shit destroys a car and however much fuel was there and she could have died in a hostage type situation too. No one says a thing. Andrea almost lets the girl kill herself and Lori knows Andrea probably egged her on or at least knowingly let her do it. Not a word. Andrea seems to be getting stupider and stupider imo. I actually agreed with what lori was saying for once.
I was glad when the girl slashed her wrists because it meant it would be accepted that Andrea was a moron. I got pretty ticked off when Andrea was like "I was right!" Omg, please die.
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On February 28 2012 12:07 DontGiveUp wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:18 tokicheese wrote:
Lori does some stupid shit destroys a car and however much fuel was there and she could have died in a hostage type situation too. No one says a thing.
Andrea complained about her destroying the car, but I agree it wasn`t enough. Another thing that felt weird was how they never questioned the kid about the other group. How large, location, supplies etc. I mean, Shane should at least make the case for torturing him, right?
I don't get it. What do you expect them to do? They're not exactly living in a well structured society.
Lori go sit in the time out corner and think about what you did!
Besides, I don't want my episode to be filled up with 30 minutes of them bitching at Lori/Andrea for screwing something relatively minor up.
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On February 28 2012 10:34 JimSocks wrote:
randall looks like he can hold his own. i like him better than some of the main cast. hope they don't kill him.
Randall's downfall is that he is not a hot girl and his name is Randall. Zombie food for sure.
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I don't get the hate for Andrea in the most recent episode. I thought she was spitting truth all episode. In a zombie apocalypse, you can't sit on the girl all day every day to make sure she doesn't kill herself. If she wants to do it, she'll find a way. They let the black girl stay in the facility when it was going to blow up because they respected and understood her decision, the blonde girl should have been no different. Also, Lori's shit about the laundry and a woman's role was absolutely stupid. I don't know what the writers are thinking.
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I liked andrea from the beginning, but im starting to not like her. She seems like the type of person to start up some drama because she is bored. I agreed with her method of letting the girl try to commit suicide, but she didnt have to be such a raging bitch about it. She didnt have to be so smug. She gave advice to shane, that shane had the right idea on everything, but the way he presented it to the group was all wrong... she needs to take her own advice.
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On February 28 2012 13:15 Draekan wrote:
I liked andrea from the beginning, but im starting to not like her. She seems like the type of person to start up some drama because she is bored. I agreed with her method of letting the girl try to commit suicide, but she didnt have to be such a raging bitch about it. She didnt have to be so smug. She gave advice to shane, that shane had the right idea on everything, but the way he presented it to the group was all wrong... she needs to take her own advice.
Lori bitching that Andrea keeps watch instead of cooking, cleaning and doing laundry... I mean really... The men are building shit, fixing shit, foraging for shit, killing walkers, and going into town and making runs. She's mad she doesn't have another women to boss around...
Lori doesn't have shit on Andrea.
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I think the point on the zombie in the field (to build off of a p4ndemik comment earlier) is just to show symmetry in the episode. It began with them driving out discussing their plight and he looks out to see the zombie wandering in the field.
On the way back, the relationship has completely changed with Rick taking a dominating role, and yet they are driving only to look out the window to see the zombie in the field.
My personal opinion is it is just reminder of the situation they are in. Walkers are everywhere despite whatever quarrels they may get into. Rather than freaking out, zombies wandering in their environment have become the status quo. They are treated no more surprisingly than us seeing a bird/squirrel out the window.
But than again I am probably reading into it too much 
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On February 28 2012 04:29 Nekovivie wrote:
Man I loved this ep so much.
The way he's about to leave Shane, but then he sees the two cop zombies, and it reminds him of what he was, the good guy, makes him go back.
Great story!
the first thing that came to mind when he sees the walker: its Ottis
especially when the last few frames of him show and he's fat.
Plus with them talking about how it must be hard to take a life no matter who it is and Rick being worried about the effects it'll have on him. Shane's just trying to play it off as him not giving a shit. then it cuts to that kinda showing that he does have some sort of a heart by looking at him that way.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 28 2012 09:20 ZaplinG wrote:
couple things about this episode, good and bad.
Good: Liked the symbolism. Rick and Shane arguing at the 'crossroads' of their relationship while actually standing in a crossroad. Shane's reflection on the glass portraying him as a zombie, then a zombie actually popping out. A lone zombie businessman spinning his wheels in an open field, while Shane is spinning his wheels within a group that doesnt trust him. The two zombie cops making Rick not leave Shane.
Also liked the gore in this one. I really felt the desperation when the bodies were piling on top of Rick and he couldn't move. The excited emotion of the kid stabbing the girl zombie in the head so many times.
The women are starting to develop past being silent weak counterparts to the men, and I like that too.
Bad: Why not just run out of the bus in the first place? Didn't like the beginning scene either. Good example of bad foreshadowing.
Why aren't they conserving their resources more? Driving all that way to just turn around and bring the kid back seems like a waste. Also can't help but think how there has been no repercussion from Lori crashing the car. Seems assets like that would be valued.
overall, very good episode
Shane did not just run out of the bus on his own as he was holding the door shut, and the second or two to kick the emergency door through probably would have been fatal.
He needed Rick to distract them by shooting his handgun several times in their direction, which allowed Shane the time to run for it.
As for preserving resources and valueing assets.. there's gotta be millions upon millions of cars lying abandoned, I don't think theres any shortage of fuel (or cars) or that matter currently.
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