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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
February 27 2012 21:16 GMT
#2861
I understand that it is moving slowly and everything, but in a zombie apocalypse, I want to fear that my characters are going to die at any time. All they do is build drama and tension, but in no way do I fear a 'random' death of a main character.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
February 27 2012 21:20 GMT
#2862
On February 28 2012 06:16 NexRex wrote:
I understand that it is moving slowly and everything, but in a zombie apocalypse, I want to fear that my characters are going to die at any time. All they do is build drama and tension, but in no way do I fear a 'random' death of a main character.


Yeah, this is really worse than in the comic, where you could feel the plot shield for Rick and Karl, but everyone else was basically fair game. Many died, some where important other not, some you expected them to die some not, some died in a rather meaningful way while others just got randomly killed.

It gave real tension to the story.
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Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
February 27 2012 21:36 GMT
#2863
I don't like the fact that they have settled. The story isn't really moving right now and silly plots are made so that something is going on. Liked the first season better tbh..
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
February 27 2012 21:58 GMT
#2864
Season 3 they will be on the move. Hopefully with the ratings and the bitching by the community the budget goes up. remember AMC doesn't own the walking dead, so the owners can sit there and say we want x amount of money we felt you improperly funded us last season. And its not like another network isn't going to pick up the show.

On the move = more walkers which for me would be a good thing.
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
February 27 2012 21:59 GMT
#2865
Great episode! Perhaps the best in season 2. If all the slow drama boils down to this kind of stuff it's almost worth it!
Ahh Scept-- hey where did you come from?
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 22:39:33
February 27 2012 21:59 GMT
#2866
One thing that is really bothering me a lot is that you KNOW Shane was not going to die in that bus, I never read the comics or anything but, you have a character in trouble in a situation where he shouldn't live but you know he won't die.
+ Show Spoiler +

I went to AMC to check the times for it and it said the plot for next episode that Shane was going to be alive so its like yea hes in this bus in a situation where he should die but I know he won't. You see rick leaving and theres not even a shred of doubt hes coming back.


There needs to be more of a any character can die at any moment feeling instead of the main characters are like people from lord of the rings, just charge into a situation you can't win and still come out perfectly fine.

These people are not super humans except for that guy they rescued he is like a super human, heals wounds that he shouldn't within a week.
Sofestafont
Profile Joined May 2011
United States83 Posts
February 27 2012 22:11 GMT
#2867
I must have missed something because I didn't see anyone ask it, but how did Randell know to bring up Maggie?
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 22:16:53
February 27 2012 22:16 GMT
#2868
On February 28 2012 07:11 Sofestafont wrote:
I must have missed something because I didn't see anyone ask it, but how did Randell know to bring up Maggie?

He was just blurting out things that might prompt them to reconsider, and well.. It helped, although not for the better
He didn't know to bring it up, he just stupidly shouted it out in desperation, and you could see he regretted it the second he said it
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
February 27 2012 22:20 GMT
#2869
On February 28 2012 06:59 Kamikiri wrote:
One thing that is really bothering me a lot is that you KNOW Shane was not going to die in that bus, I never read the comics or anything but, you have a character in trouble in a situation where he shouldn't live but you know he won't die.

I went to AMC to check the times for it and it said the plot for next episode that Shane+ Show Spoiler +
was going to be alive so its like yea hes in this bus in a situation where he should die but I know he won't. You see rick leaving and theres not even a shred of doubt hes coming back.

There needs to be more of a any character can die at any moment feeling instead of the main characters are like people from lord of the rings, just charge into a situation you can't win and still come out perfectly fine.

These people are not super humans except for that guy they rescued he is like a super human, heals wounds that he shouldn't within a week.

Thankfully didn't look past that, but you gotta spoiler this dude. Some of us don't want any spoilers, of any kind.
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
February 27 2012 22:22 GMT
#2870
On February 28 2012 04:29 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:27 rhs408 wrote:
On February 28 2012 04:16 tofucake wrote:
3. On the way out they were driving past a field. Shane looks out the passenger side and sees a random walker. On the way back they were driving past the field again. Shane looks looks out the passenger side and sees the same random walker.


Ya I didn't get the significance of that walker...


It could be symbolic, like the way shane feels in the group..Alone constantly going nowhere.

Or perhaps it was just some random scene that means nothing and we shouldn't care.


was about to ask something about that. thought that was a foreshadowing that shane knew there was walkers there and decided not to tell rick so he could leave him there (but that actually makes no sense considering how far they drove)

that symbolic theory does make sense a bit but it's clear that andrea (with a bit of t-dog) aggres with him at least, so maybe not. still curious wtf that random walker meant
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Gheist
Profile Joined October 2009
United States30 Posts
February 27 2012 22:50 GMT
#2871
One thing that has got me, unless I missed a generator at the farm they have no electricity, correct? Then why does Lori put food in the fridge, and why does it have a working light inside? just something i caught. Wish it was more like the books.
Milestoned
Profile Joined February 2012
United States36 Posts
February 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#2872
On February 28 2012 07:50 Gheist wrote:
One thing that has got me, unless I missed a generator at the farm they have no electricity, correct? Then why does Lori put food in the fridge, and why does it have a working light inside? just something i caught. Wish it was more like the books.


Hershel has a generator on the farm. It was made clear in an earlier episode.
I am a true closet nerd:)
VediVeci
Profile Joined October 2011
United States82 Posts
February 27 2012 23:05 GMT
#2873
Glad to see the show getting a little more tense. I love the drama (even if it could be better done), but the tension definitely elevates the drama and makes it a bit more believable. Much easier to empathize with the characters when you feel some small bit of the fear/loss or whatever that they're feeling.

It's getting a bit old listening to the borderline misogynistic crap about not wanting to see the "whining bitches" back at the farm though. As Lori said, it is hugely important in that situation to try to develop some normalcy or stability in order to help morale and give people a sense of purpose, hope, and community. And given the situation they're in and the group dynamics, it makes sense that that falls a little more on the women, who tend to be more vulnerable and less well prepared to deal with security issues than the ex cops, red-neck hunter and other men, who tend to be stronger, faster, and/or have more experience with guns.

It would be disingenuous of the show to pretend that the only issues that threaten the group are walkers. I think it's great that they also touch on other subtler issues, especially the group structure and dynamics.
tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
February 27 2012 23:27 GMT
#2874
Yeah I have to agree with the Hyundai complaints. If your really going for fuel efficiency why would you not use ATVs or dirtbikes? Or even a compact hybrid? What advantage does a dinky little suv have over a civic?

And I agree with the lack of fuel issue but I would want a F-350 or equivalent large truck to use when going into a zombie dense areas and to recon new locations. Throw a big cattle catcher on the front lift the truck up and put some type of steel mesh over the windows to zombie proof it. And maybe if you have time you could put a canopy on the back and knock out the back of the cab so you could have a huge area for storage or for people. You could have gun slots so you could use the truck as an APC.

Idk that probably just my inner redneck coming out.


Fuel wouldn't be THAT rare I mean every single car that was abandoned would have fuel. You could easily siphon large amounts of fuel fairly safely.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 23:32:54
February 27 2012 23:32 GMT
#2875
Hate Lori?

(not a spoiler, just a picture)
+ Show Spoiler +
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 27 2012 23:35 GMT
#2876
On February 28 2012 06:58 purecarnagge wrote:
Season 3 they will be on the move. Hopefully with the ratings and the bitching by the community the budget goes up. remember AMC doesn't own the walking dead, so the owners can sit there and say we want x amount of money we felt you improperly funded us last season. And its not like another network isn't going to pick up the show.

On the move = more walkers which for me would be a good thing.

Actually I'm 99% sure they do own TWD. Everyone on the show is at AMC's mercy. It isn't like Breaking Bad or Mad Men.
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Jusba
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland189 Posts
February 27 2012 23:50 GMT
#2877
On February 28 2012 07:22 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:29 Kamikiri wrote:
On February 28 2012 04:27 rhs408 wrote:
On February 28 2012 04:16 tofucake wrote:
3. On the way out they were driving past a field. Shane looks out the passenger side and sees a random walker. On the way back they were driving past the field again. Shane looks looks out the passenger side and sees the same random walker.


Ya I didn't get the significance of that walker...


It could be symbolic, like the way shane feels in the group..Alone constantly going nowhere.

Or perhaps it was just some random scene that means nothing and we shouldn't care.


was about to ask something about that. thought that was a foreshadowing that shane knew there was walkers there and decided not to tell rick so he could leave him there (but that actually makes no sense considering how far they drove)

that symbolic theory does make sense a bit but it's clear that andrea (with a bit of t-dog) aggres with him at least, so maybe not. still curious wtf that random walker meant

I HAVE THE ANSWER!

SPOILER


Shane is thinking of infecting Rick with the virus.
The part where he looks at the random walker is just him thinking can he do it to his friend.
Now the real reason why I think that is because they found out that you could get infected only by a scratch and Shane happened to cut off the fingers of a walker when he pushed the bus doors!!

All he needs to do is scratch Rick with one of the fingers and everything will be fine for him. Shane thinks Rick wouldn't kill him because then his son and wife wouldn't be so protected.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 27 2012 23:54 GMT
#2878
--- Nuked ---
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 00:00:24
February 27 2012 23:59 GMT
#2879
On February 28 2012 08:35 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 06:58 purecarnagge wrote:
Season 3 they will be on the move. Hopefully with the ratings and the bitching by the community the budget goes up. remember AMC doesn't own the walking dead, so the owners can sit there and say we want x amount of money we felt you improperly funded us last season. And its not like another network isn't going to pick up the show.

On the move = more walkers which for me would be a good thing.

Actually I'm 99% sure they do own TWD. Everyone on the show is at AMC's mercy. It isn't like Breaking Bad or Mad Men.



I could be wrong I thought they owned the TV rights, but not the actual tv show which is why they have to re-order etc. I have a buddy who lives for this stuff, he always talks comic vs show and he prob just confused the crap out of me.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
February 28 2012 00:06 GMT
#2880
On February 28 2012 08:50 Jusba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 07:22 sung_moon wrote:
On February 28 2012 04:29 Kamikiri wrote:
On February 28 2012 04:27 rhs408 wrote:
On February 28 2012 04:16 tofucake wrote:
3. On the way out they were driving past a field. Shane looks out the passenger side and sees a random walker. On the way back they were driving past the field again. Shane looks looks out the passenger side and sees the same random walker.


Ya I didn't get the significance of that walker...


It could be symbolic, like the way shane feels in the group..Alone constantly going nowhere.

Or perhaps it was just some random scene that means nothing and we shouldn't care.


was about to ask something about that. thought that was a foreshadowing that shane knew there was walkers there and decided not to tell rick so he could leave him there (but that actually makes no sense considering how far they drove)

that symbolic theory does make sense a bit but it's clear that andrea (with a bit of t-dog) aggres with him at least, so maybe not. still curious wtf that random walker meant

I HAVE THE ANSWER!

SPOILER


Shane is thinking of infecting Rick with the virus.
The part where he looks at the random walker is just him thinking can he do it to his friend.
Now the real reason why I think that is because they found out that you could get infected only by a scratch and Shane happened to cut off the fingers of a walker when he pushed the bus doors!!

All he needs to do is scratch Rick with one of the fingers and everything will be fine for him. Shane thinks Rick wouldn't kill him because then his son and wife wouldn't be so protected.



+ Show Spoiler [Comic] +
IIRC it's explained in the comic that it's not that the zombies are infected, but that everyone is infected, and such they are the walking dead, and that the zombies quite simply kill you but dieing in almost any other way also turns you into a zombie.
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