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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
February 14 2012 09:27 GMT
#2381
Hey guys. Where can I watch the first ep of the new season?
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
February 14 2012 09:29 GMT
#2382
i dont recall lori being very bright in prison break either
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BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
February 14 2012 09:32 GMT
#2383
Season 2 sucks so hard, it got bad since Rick found the group. Was better when he was by himself. Hope many of them die soon, I dont really care. It was not like the audience had gotten any feelings for the missing girl either and they base all of season 2 around it.
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
February 14 2012 09:46 GMT
#2384
I know many of you don't like season 2 because nothing really happens (i.e not entertaining), but it IS a realistic portrayal. I can see similar stuff happening if this was a real life situation. You wouldn't be out looking for the Walkers you know
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19203 Posts
February 14 2012 15:31 GMT
#2385
On February 14 2012 09:35 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 05:10 tofucake wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:29 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Wow, after wading through the mess of Season 2 to get two good scenes (Otis/Shane and the Barn scene), I almost couldn't even finish watching the first 10 minutes of 'Nebraska'. I have no intention of staring a flamefest or anything but I really need to get some of this off my chest because the show has become so frustrating despite me stupidly coming back to give it another chance.

- The actual dialogue between Maggie and Glen is so inane and stupid. Glen moved from being funny to just being an idiot.
- It appears to me that everyone basically changed their character to just accept Shane's psychotic moment in the previous episode.
- The only character who doubts Shane is magical Dale who never had any reason to call Shane out on anything except being a bit of a douche, but was able to all of a sudden know that Shane was a murderer in 'Pretty Much Already Dead' and now knows every exact detail of Otis' murder.
- Rick still the worst acted character on the show which is something, speaking slowly in a low growl...always.
- Lori crashes into a zombie and flips the car. Ok.
- Andrea throughout the entire season...her character just needs to die.
- The only interesting thing that happened was the bar scene which had to suffer through really worn out dialogue between Hershel and Rick.

Personally I think Rick is done quiet well, considering his natural accent and all. I can't do a southern accent very well and I'm American. Props to Lincoln, imo.

I think he does a good job (at least he is one of the better actors in the series) but for accuracy's sake his accent is not what I would consider "southern."

edit: eh, whatever I'm nitpicky. "Southern" is painting accents with an incredibly large brush. People from Kentucky speak veeeeeeery differently from most other places that are considered part of the "South" imo.

please you barely count as "Southern". And I don't know enough about southern accents to be able to get annoyed, which is the same with nearly everyone. I can tell there's a difference between like...Rick and Daryl, for instance, but I don't know that Daryl has (say) an Atlanta accent while Rick has a Backwatermiddleofnowheresville accent. Same with basically every region re differentiation. He does it well enough that I had no idea he was British until I looked him up. He doesn't have any of the accent bleed a lot of foreign actors do (like Sam Worthington in Terminator)
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 03:34:51
February 14 2012 16:20 GMT
#2386
On February 13 2012 12:50 p4NDemik wrote:
How slow the show is moving doesn't really bother me. Its that they failed to provide any tension in the process. My heart was pounding when Shane sacrificed Otis and then ritualistically shaved his hair. That was cool. But it took them like 7 episodes to get that sort of feeling back in me again. That's a really bad sign but hopefully it is more telling of Darabont and there are talented people at the helm now. That last scene was extremely promising.


I think the fact that the first season was demonstrably better than the second is a bad sign that Darabout is gone. The lower quality is almost certainly due to his removal, different writers who changed as well during the seasons and lower budgets.

On February 13 2012 16:00 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 15:57 p4NDemik wrote:
On February 13 2012 15:30 Blackfoger wrote:
I think I know why the car crashed happened even thought it was fucking stupid could be another way to keep secrets. Say lori has a miscarriage due to the car crash and doesn't tell shane another BS drama for a few more episodes.

My question is why Rick was so damn reluctant to learn a little more about those men he shot before saying no.

What more did he need to know about them? The fat guy did it all. Little things. He sort of took offense when the other guys said "sorry, he went to college" says a lot about the company they are in if any intelligence is shat on and replaced with belligerence. After that he decides to get up and take a piss right in front of everyone. Christ even if it is a zombie apocalypse if you actually want to gain the respect and care about how these strangers see you, you sure as hell don't piss 5 feet away from them. Then the fat guy threatened to kill them ... nail in the coffin.

Or I misinterpreted your question because it is a bit oddly worded and you were curious as to why he didn't shoot them earlier? To which I would answer because he to this point is at least a decent person and would try to make it out without violence even if he is picking up a slightly bad vibe.

That scene was so cool because you got to feel the cop in Rick more so than anything else in the show has accomplished. You can see his training, his reaction to keep his hand close to his holster whenever he can't see their hands. That 5 or 10 minutes was expertly crafted. It's just a shame the show hasn't delivered more stuff like that. Its tough for me to take someone seriously who actually thought this was the worst episode because that moment was probably the best thing this show has had going for it since the premier.

I thought it was because of how the non-fat guy came on really strong about finding out where they lived. Shane kinda skimped around the question at first, and instead of letting it go he kept on persisting which drew more red flags.
That's the way It came off to me anyway.


Yeah, it felt like Rick was using his training immediately and reading both of the guys well, even before the more obvious warning signs.

Agreed that Lori driving off to do exactly what Rick and Glen were already doing makes no sense at all. But hey, shows have lots of moments like that, and you can always just tell yourself she panicked a bit, especially because the girl who struggled with the walker at the start of the episode is in a deep fever, you know, that thing that's been killing everyone and turning them into zombies, and then move on as the audience is forced to do.

On February 13 2012 21:38 shizna wrote:
guys the scene in the bar...

1. they've probably already had a run in with dangerous survivors... rick and glen for sure, probably hershal as well considering his stance on rick's group staying at the farm. in a chaotic apocalypse situation, thugs and criminals are probably the best survivors because they won't hesitate to kill other people and steal their stuff. damn right they would be suspicious.

2. the guys at the bar were all kinds of dodgy. if you didn't catch the signals then maybe you're autistic.

3. dude behind the bar drew his gun on rick, that's why rick shot him.


i thought it was one of the best scenes in the entire show thus far... it keeps getting better. loving it.


Thanks detective. Clearly the rest of tl missed all that. Thank god you're here to find it for us.

On February 14 2012 05:10 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:29 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Wow, after wading through the mess of Season 2 to get two good scenes (Otis/Shane and the Barn scene), I almost couldn't even finish watching the first 10 minutes of 'Nebraska'. I have no intention of staring a flamefest or anything but I really need to get some of this off my chest because the show has become so frustrating despite me stupidly coming back to give it another chance.

- The actual dialogue between Maggie and Glen is so inane and stupid. Glen moved from being funny to just being an idiot.
- It appears to me that everyone basically changed their character to just accept Shane's psychotic moment in the previous episode.
- The only character who doubts Shane is magical Dale who never had any reason to call Shane out on anything except being a bit of a douche, but was able to all of a sudden know that Shane was a murderer in 'Pretty Much Already Dead' and now knows every exact detail of Otis' murder.
- Rick still the worst acted character on the show which is something, speaking slowly in a low growl...always.
- Lori crashes into a zombie and flips the car. Ok.
- Andrea throughout the entire season...her character just needs to die.
- The only interesting thing that happened was the bar scene which had to suffer through really worn out dialogue between Hershel and Rick.

Personally I think Rick is done quiet well, considering his natural accent and all. I can't do a southern accent very well and I'm American. Props to Lincoln, imo.


Agreed. He's a really good actor and one of the better on the show. Can't please everyone though.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 14 2012 20:03 GMT
#2387
On February 15 2012 00:31 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 09:35 p4NDemik wrote:
On February 14 2012 05:10 tofucake wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:29 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Wow, after wading through the mess of Season 2 to get two good scenes (Otis/Shane and the Barn scene), I almost couldn't even finish watching the first 10 minutes of 'Nebraska'. I have no intention of staring a flamefest or anything but I really need to get some of this off my chest because the show has become so frustrating despite me stupidly coming back to give it another chance.

- The actual dialogue between Maggie and Glen is so inane and stupid. Glen moved from being funny to just being an idiot.
- It appears to me that everyone basically changed their character to just accept Shane's psychotic moment in the previous episode.
- The only character who doubts Shane is magical Dale who never had any reason to call Shane out on anything except being a bit of a douche, but was able to all of a sudden know that Shane was a murderer in 'Pretty Much Already Dead' and now knows every exact detail of Otis' murder.
- Rick still the worst acted character on the show which is something, speaking slowly in a low growl...always.
- Lori crashes into a zombie and flips the car. Ok.
- Andrea throughout the entire season...her character just needs to die.
- The only interesting thing that happened was the bar scene which had to suffer through really worn out dialogue between Hershel and Rick.

Personally I think Rick is done quiet well, considering his natural accent and all. I can't do a southern accent very well and I'm American. Props to Lincoln, imo.

I think he does a good job (at least he is one of the better actors in the series) but for accuracy's sake his accent is not what I would consider "southern."

edit: eh, whatever I'm nitpicky. "Southern" is painting accents with an incredibly large brush. People from Kentucky speak veeeeeeery differently from most other places that are considered part of the "South" imo.

please you barely count as "Southern". And I don't know enough about southern accents to be able to get annoyed, which is the same with nearly everyone. I can tell there's a difference between like...Rick and Daryl, for instance, but I don't know that Daryl has (say) an Atlanta accent while Rick has a Backwatermiddleofnowheresville accent. Same with basically every region re differentiation. He does it well enough that I had no idea he was British until I looked him up. He doesn't have any of the accent bleed a lot of foreign actors do (like Sam Worthington in Terminator)

I'm not saying I'm Southern, and that's pretty much my point. Rick is hardly Southern either as you put it. He is from Cynthiana, just under 60 miles from where I live. If I'm not "Southern" in your mind he shouldn't really be either.

I continue to agree with you though, his accent is well done.

@Subversive - you are aware that Darabont was still the showrunner for filming of the first like 6 or 7 episodes of shooting? And that AMC fired him after he came back with a version of the first episode that AMC considered unusable? I'm sure the budget cuts hamstrung him in what he thought he could achieve but the first half of the season that was still pretty much underwhelming? That was all Darabont. Well maybe not all him but he was still very much involved with those episodes.
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jungsu
Profile Joined February 2010
United States279 Posts
February 14 2012 20:17 GMT
#2388
Zombies need to find the farm somehow and make them move already, more run-and-gun action is needed

And I hope Lori dies, so annoying ><
go nony
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
February 14 2012 20:48 GMT
#2389
Well the show did fantastic in the ratings. Not sure that will translate into better Season 2.5 episodes. But for the 16-episode Season 3, it should.



New York, NY – February 13, 2012 – Last night, AMC’s mid-season premiere of “The Walking Dead” became the strongest telecast for any drama in basic cable history against key demos including 5.4 million adults 18-49 and 4.4 million adults 25-54. These results shatter the previous record, which was held by the series two premiere from October 16th with increases of +12% and +6% respectively. The show delivered 8.1 million viewers for its 9pm premiere and delivered 10.1 million viewers for the night (9pm premiere and 11pm and 12:30 am encores). At 10pm, AMC also premiered its newest unscripted series, “Comic Book Men,” executive produced by Kevin Smith (Clerks, Dogma, Chasing Amy), Charlie Corwin’s Original Media (LA Ink, Storm Chasers, Swamp People) and Elyse Seiden (Red State). The series delivered 2 million total viewers.

Atokad
Profile Joined November 2010
United States204 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 21:05:04
February 14 2012 21:03 GMT
#2390
On February 14 2012 18:29 simmeh wrote:
i dont recall lori being very bright in prison break either


Prisonbreak spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +
She was a druggie who went back to rehab twice after becoming a doctor, where she got her fix of morphine, so I think she was supposed to be smart, just making bad choices, and contemplated running away with Michael/Link as another bad choice. (all of this in the show of course - playing the character of Dr. Sarah Tancretti) The show was based around (from season 2 and on) Michael Scofield being the brains for everyone running away and Alexander Malone being the brains for trying to find Michael and the rest of the escapees. Season 3 continued with them working together to retrieve Scylla and get it into the right hands. So her intelligence wasn't a big part of the show and wasn't a big factor in Prison Break either.


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Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
February 14 2012 21:04 GMT
#2391
Yeah fuck Lori she's so annoying. Or atleast make her more independent, make her stop blaming on people and acting like a bitch.
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VediVeci
Profile Joined October 2011
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 15:34:02
February 14 2012 21:13 GMT
#2392
EDIT: My bad, I was totally wrong
Zuxo
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden395 Posts
February 14 2012 21:19 GMT
#2393
On February 14 2012 15:39 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 15:01 jtbem wrote:
...so how long will it take them to find Lori? sigh

I'm hoping that after the Sophie dissapointment, they'll realize that it's a waste of time and move on. Next episode SHE finds THEM. As a ZOMBIE. So then <LITTLEKID> shoots his mother in the face, doing the 'right thing' as he said in the previous episode. It all wraps back together, you see. We get rid of Lori quickly and efficiently (seroiusly, was what she did out of character at all? Was there ever any doubt she was mentally challenged?), we have a nice drama moment when a kid has to kill his mother, and the show can finally get to being pretty cool again.


Hahaha that is brutal, would love to see it happen though.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19203 Posts
February 14 2012 21:20 GMT
#2394
He said he quit approximately 30 seconds prior to that. It was a joke to ease the tension to try to make them all more comfortable and hopefully tell them where they were staying.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8251 Posts
February 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#2395
On February 15 2012 06:13 VediVeci wrote:
Just rewatched the bar scene, wanted to get people's thoughts on this specifically:

Herschel: "We're with a larger group, out scouting. Thought we could use a drink."
Dave (the new guy): "A drink? Herschel I thought you quit."

I think there's clearly some history/familiarity there, but I'm not sure what the point is. If the writers are bringing it up though, it isn't just random, the whole scene seemed pretty purposeful and theres no reason to think that exchange wasn't.


He said in the start of the scene that he quit drinking..literally 2 minutes earlier.
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
February 14 2012 21:31 GMT
#2396
I'm really surprised at people's reactions to the most recent episode, and to the whole season in general.

So far, the season has been filled with tension and people are just complaining about "WHERE ZOMBIES AND GUNS?!"
It's called pacing people.

I've been enjoying the season so far and the tension between Dale and Shane has especially been unnerving.

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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
February 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#2397
On February 14 2012 15:39 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 15:01 jtbem wrote:
...so how long will it take them to find Lori? sigh

I'm hoping that after the Sophie dissapointment, they'll realize that it's a waste of time and move on. Next episode SHE finds THEM. As a ZOMBIE. So then <LITTLEKID> shoots his mother in the face, doing the 'right thing' as he said in the previous episode. It all wraps back together, you see. We get rid of Lori quickly and efficiently (seroiusly, was what she did out of character at all? Was there ever any doubt she was mentally challenged?), we have a nice drama moment when a kid has to kill his mother, and the show can finally get to being pretty cool again.

YES! I totally agree.
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ShadezOwnage
Profile Joined May 2010
184 Posts
February 15 2012 00:07 GMT
#2398
People, let me tell you something. This show is inferior to Breaking Bad in every way. This show is basically Days of our Lives once a week. No action since the first season. This whole farm thing is for the birds.

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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13409 Posts
February 15 2012 00:21 GMT
#2399
Then go watch Breaking Bad and stop shitting in this thread?
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 00:49:54
February 15 2012 00:44 GMT
#2400
On February 15 2012 06:13 VediVeci wrote:
Just rewatched the bar scene, wanted to get people's thoughts on this specifically:

Herschel: "We're with a larger group, out scouting. Thought we could use a drink."
Dave (the new guy): "A drink? Herschel I thought you quit."

I think there's clearly some history/familiarity there, but I'm not sure what the point is. If the writers are bringing it up though, it isn't just random, the whole scene seemed pretty purposeful and theres no reason to think that exchange wasn't.


Herschel said he stopped drinking sometime in the beginning of their encounter with the new guys.

ninja'd by a long time.

Anyway, I think the farm is getting a bit old. It was an awesome idea with the sense of finding a safe haven away from the living hell, but they're dragging it on. Honestly looks like they're going to be there for a few more episodes.
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