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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 07 2014 17:55 GMT
#2481
I swear he only read FT just to have these arguments.
Never Knows Best.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
April 07 2014 17:57 GMT
#2482
I too think that Gildarts is OP as fuck. The guy just destroyed a village by stumbling lol.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 18:10:35
April 07 2014 18:08 GMT
#2483
The argument that his injury would handicap him is not a good one. Considering he has had those injuries from the start of his 1st appearance. So yea all those badass things he has done? Post injury, and he was looking pretty good, we haven't even seen him do anything pre-injury.

NO ONE has made Natsu just give up NO ONE.

Not Jella (douche)
Not Hades
Not Laxus

No One. He is the strongest. If Laxus was on his level he wouldn't be fighting in the story. He is literally exactly the same as Kenshin's master from RK. Too strong to be consistently around because there would be no drama.
Never Knows Best.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 19:03:27
April 07 2014 18:58 GMT
#2484
On April 08 2014 02:55 Slaughter wrote:
I swear he only read FT just to have these arguments.

lololol you made me laugh.

On April 08 2014 03:08 Slaughter wrote:
The argument that his injury would handicap him is not a good one. Considering he has had those injuries from the start of his 1st appearance. So yea all those badass things he has done? Post injury, and he was looking pretty good, we haven't even seen him do anything pre-injury.

NO ONE has made Natsu just give up NO ONE.

Not Jella (douche)
Not Hades
Not Laxus

No One. He is the strongest. If Laxus was on his level he wouldn't be fighting in the story. He is literally exactly the same as Kenshin's master from RK. Too strong to be consistently around because there would be no drama.

Natsu gave up against Gildarts because he wasnt fighting for protecting someone.

vs Jelall - he was protecting Erza and his friends
vs Hades - he was protecting Fairy Tail
vs Laxus - he was protecting Magnolia
vs Gildarts - ?

You can say that Gildarts is on same level with Laxus, but you can't say he is stronger. Dont forget that Laxus can use Fairy Law, one of the strongest magic in series.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 07 2014 19:17 GMT
#2485
On April 08 2014 03:58 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:55 Slaughter wrote:
I swear he only read FT just to have these arguments.

lololol you made me laugh.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:08 Slaughter wrote:
The argument that his injury would handicap him is not a good one. Considering he has had those injuries from the start of his 1st appearance. So yea all those badass things he has done? Post injury, and he was looking pretty good, we haven't even seen him do anything pre-injury.

NO ONE has made Natsu just give up NO ONE.

Not Jella (douche)
Not Hades
Not Laxus

No One. He is the strongest. If Laxus was on his level he wouldn't be fighting in the story. He is literally exactly the same as Kenshin's master from RK. Too strong to be consistently around because there would be no drama.

Natsu gave up against Gildarts because he wasnt fighting for protecting someone.

vs Jelall - he was protecting Erza and his friends
vs Hades - he was protecting Fairy Tail
vs Laxus - he was protecting Magnolia
vs Gildarts - ?

You can say that Gildarts is on same level with Laxus, but you can't say he is stronger. Dont forget that Laxus can use Fairy Law, one of the strongest magic in series.

card chick was able to use fairy glitter one of the strongest magic and couldnt do squat

it doesnt matter if you can cast it if you cant do shit with it Makarov trusted Gildarts more then Laxus so i dont see any evidence to say there equal in strength
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 20:21:15
April 07 2014 20:20 GMT
#2486
Laxus biggest achievement is soloing a guild that did not have strongly established power. It was meant to be his ""impressive" moment without actually giving a real indication (one that allows the author to make him lose when it suits the plot) Like vs the demon he fought.

Basically power levels are not consistent throughout the series. One that has remained however is Gildarts is #1 in FT. You don't think he can do Fairy Law??

The main evidence against Laxus is that he is actively participating in the plot. He would have solo'd most of everyone in that fucking cube if he were on Gildarts lvl.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 20:24:48
April 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#2487
On April 08 2014 05:20 Slaughter wrote:
Laxus biggest achievement is soloing a guild that did not have strongly established power. It was meant to be his ""impressive" moment without actually giving a real indication (one that allows the author to make him lose when it suits the plot) Like vs the demon he fought.

Basically power levels are not consistent throughout the series. One that has remained however is Gildarts is #1 in FT. You don't think he can do Fairy Law??

The main evidence against Laxus is that he is actively participating in the plot. He would have solo'd most of everyone in that fucking cube if he were on Gildarts lvl.

he "beat" the demon he fought its jsut the demon he fought could "win" even if he "lost"

also dont really get how the levels are inconsistant
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 07 2014 20:33 GMT
#2488
They don't seem inconsistent to you? How is Jella so Godly now? He lost to Natsu near the start of the series. Yes he ate that stuff that gave him a boost but the fight really wasn't close at all after that. Jura also has up and down "is he powerful? Yes? No? Ok are we doing the thing where we say he is powerful but he loses basically every fight?"

Laxus was pretty easily handled by Hades (so was everyone else actually) they just lucked out that his magic got cut off. Now Natsu is pounding a demon who took his form and has his magic.

Gildarts meanwhile rofl stomps the gravity guy who was hyped to shit and I mean hyped. That fight also was not close at all, Gildarts straight up gg no re 3-0 grans finals his ass.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 07 2014 20:45 GMT
#2489
On April 08 2014 05:33 Slaughter wrote:
They don't seem inconsistent to you? How is Jella so Godly now? He lost to Natsu near the start of the series. Yes he ate that stuff that gave him a boost but the fight really wasn't close at all after that. Jura also has up and down "is he powerful? Yes? No? Ok are we doing the thing where we say he is powerful but he loses basically every fight?"

Laxus was pretty easily handled by Hades (so was everyone else actually) they just lucked out that his magic got cut off. Now Natsu is pounding a demon who took his form and has his magic.

Gildarts meanwhile rofl stomps the gravity guy who was hyped to shit and I mean hyped. That fight also was not close at all, Gildarts straight up gg no re 3-0 grans finals his ass.

the Etherion Natsu ate was a massive amount of power so its not odd that he manages to beat Jellal when Jellal had used alot of power before then eating the etherion healed Natsu up and powered him up while Jellal wasted power fighting Erza and pretending to lose and other spells plus the super seal insta kill spell thing that the phantom base could only cast with the 4 element dudes powering it your jsut underestimating the power boost from it, also Jellal was wiping the floor with Natsu but that was more thanks to his extreme speed that Natsu could keep up with afterwards

just because the demon has his magic doesnt mean that hes as strong as Hades, Hades had an external source of magic making him stronger so the demon would be weaker then Hades was and even if he has his magic doesnt mean hes as tough as him so he was basically a glass cannon making him easy to take out after you get a few good hits in

also Gildarts did not roflstomp gravity dude they traded quite a few blows before the fight was over

Jura fight fairly evenly with the earth dude on orachion and the members are =~ to each other so Jura was on there level (bit higher probably) but hes been training for 7 years
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 07 2014 20:48 GMT
#2490
From what I remember, Gildarts only had trouble when that spell that drained and affected all FT members was being used. Other then that he was clearly superior to that guy.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 07 2014 20:52 GMT
#2491
On April 08 2014 05:48 Slaughter wrote:
From what I remember, Gildarts only had trouble when that spell that drained and affected all FT members was being used. Other then that he was clearly superior to that guy.

i remember it being a fairly close fight before it
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
April 07 2014 21:16 GMT
#2492
On April 08 2014 05:52 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:48 Slaughter wrote:
From what I remember, Gildarts only had trouble when that spell that drained and affected all FT members was being used. Other then that he was clearly superior to that guy.

i remember it being a fairly close fight before it


it was a long fight, but not really close
Gildarts never looked worried the whole fight. On the other hand bluenote didnt look so fit
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 07 2014 22:03 GMT
#2493
On April 08 2014 04:17 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:58 Mensol wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:55 Slaughter wrote:
I swear he only read FT just to have these arguments.

lololol you made me laugh.

On April 08 2014 03:08 Slaughter wrote:
The argument that his injury would handicap him is not a good one. Considering he has had those injuries from the start of his 1st appearance. So yea all those badass things he has done? Post injury, and he was looking pretty good, we haven't even seen him do anything pre-injury.

NO ONE has made Natsu just give up NO ONE.

Not Jella (douche)
Not Hades
Not Laxus

No One. He is the strongest. If Laxus was on his level he wouldn't be fighting in the story. He is literally exactly the same as Kenshin's master from RK. Too strong to be consistently around because there would be no drama.

Natsu gave up against Gildarts because he wasnt fighting for protecting someone.

vs Jelall - he was protecting Erza and his friends
vs Hades - he was protecting Fairy Tail
vs Laxus - he was protecting Magnolia
vs Gildarts - ?

You can say that Gildarts is on same level with Laxus, but you can't say he is stronger. Dont forget that Laxus can use Fairy Law, one of the strongest magic in series.

card chick was able to use fairy glitter one of the strongest magic and couldnt do squat

it doesnt matter if you can cast it if you cant do shit with it Makarov trusted Gildarts more then Laxus so i dont see any evidence to say there equal in strength

Cana's Fairy Glitter's didnt work well because she was weak. Fairy Glitter's power depends on users magic power.

Makarov trusted Gildarts because Laxus has done terrible things in the past. That doesnt make Laxus weaker than Gildarts by any means.

On April 08 2014 05:33 Slaughter wrote:
Laxus was pretty easily handled by Hades (so was everyone else actually) they just lucked out that his magic got cut off. Now Natsu is pounding a demon who took his form and has his magic.

Nope. He gave his remaining magic power to Natsu because it wasnt right to finish Hades without mark of the guild.

Laxus was actually going to beat Hades.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 07 2014 22:23 GMT
#2494
No lol he wasn't. It was just words he said. Natsu didn't win even with that power.

Cana used Fairy Glitter during the Grand Magic Games.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 07 2014 23:54 GMT
#2495
it was a long fight, but not really close
Gildarts never looked worried the whole fight. On the other hand bluenote didnt look so fit


are we talking about the same fight? cause i just re-read it and it got like 5 pages of them just trading a few blows before the tree went down

i mean ya gildarts seemed to have the advantage but not by a large margin

Cana's Fairy Glitter's didnt work well because she was weak. Fairy Glitter's power depends on users magic power.

Makarov trusted Gildarts because Laxus has done terrible things in the past. That doesnt make Laxus weaker than Gildarts by any means.


point is Laxus being able to cast Fairy Law means nothing

also Gildarts spends all his time wandering around aimlessly accidently destroying things and chasing women

Laxus was actually going to beat Hades.


opinion^
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
April 08 2014 00:39 GMT
#2496
The strongest character in all of fairy tail is an average Joe with a gun and a bit of creep to him. Name one character that could survive a bullet to the brain. You can't.
Handgun Joe's power level is clearly the highest of all the power levels in the series. He is unmatched by any characters and could take out all of the dark guilds by himself. Zeref himself would succumb to his trigger finger. Henceforth, we can put all power level discussion off and focus on the plot as we have now found the clear victor.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 08 2014 01:14 GMT
#2497
On April 08 2014 08:54 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
it was a long fight, but not really close
Gildarts never looked worried the whole fight. On the other hand bluenote didnt look so fit


are we talking about the same fight? cause i just re-read it and it got like 5 pages of them just trading a few blows before the tree went down

i mean ya gildarts seemed to have the advantage but not by a large margin

Show nested quote +
Cana's Fairy Glitter's didnt work well because she was weak. Fairy Glitter's power depends on users magic power.

Makarov trusted Gildarts because Laxus has done terrible things in the past. That doesnt make Laxus weaker than Gildarts by any means.


point is Laxus being able to cast Fairy Law means nothing

also Gildarts spends all his time wandering around aimlessly accidently destroying things and chasing women
Show nested quote +

Laxus was actually going to beat Hades.


opinion^


I will have to reread it. Maybe the anime made it look more in Gildarts favor before the tree thing. I recall him being relatively relaxed during the fight and was only worried while the tree thing was in effect then he ended it quickly after he was restored.
Never Knows Best.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
April 08 2014 10:15 GMT
#2498
On April 08 2014 09:39 Hyperbola wrote:
The strongest character in all of fairy tail is an average Joe with a gun and a bit of creep to him. Name one character that could survive a bullet to the brain. You can't.
Handgun Joe's power level is clearly the highest of all the power levels in the series. He is unmatched by any characters and could take out all of the dark guilds by himself. Zeref himself would succumb to his trigger finger. Henceforth, we can put all power level discussion off and focus on the plot as we have now found the clear victor.


I doubt guns can penetrate dragon scales (dragon slayers)
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
April 08 2014 21:22 GMT
#2499
On April 08 2014 19:15 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 09:39 Hyperbola wrote:
The strongest character in all of fairy tail is an average Joe with a gun and a bit of creep to him. Name one character that could survive a bullet to the brain. You can't.
Handgun Joe's power level is clearly the highest of all the power levels in the series. He is unmatched by any characters and could take out all of the dark guilds by himself. Zeref himself would succumb to his trigger finger. Henceforth, we can put all power level discussion off and focus on the plot as we have now found the clear victor.


I doubt guns can penetrate dragon scales (dragon slayers)

The whole point is that he sneaks up on you. Doesn't matter how tough your dragon scales are when you turn them on because he'll shoot you when you're least expecting. Besides, tough skin doesn't give you tough organs and bones. Where do you think all that force will go after the bullet is stopped?
Handgun Joe is #1 in power ranking.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
April 08 2014 21:25 GMT
#2500
On April 09 2014 06:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:15 sharkie wrote:
On April 08 2014 09:39 Hyperbola wrote:
The strongest character in all of fairy tail is an average Joe with a gun and a bit of creep to him. Name one character that could survive a bullet to the brain. You can't.
Handgun Joe's power level is clearly the highest of all the power levels in the series. He is unmatched by any characters and could take out all of the dark guilds by himself. Zeref himself would succumb to his trigger finger. Henceforth, we can put all power level discussion off and focus on the plot as we have now found the clear victor.


I doubt guns can penetrate dragon scales (dragon slayers)

The whole point is that he sneaks up on you. Doesn't matter how tough your dragon scales are when you turn them on because he'll shoot you when you're least expecting. Besides, tough skin doesn't give you tough organs and bones. Where do you think all that force will go after the bullet is stopped?
Handgun Joe is #1 in power ranking.


I don't understand your reasoning one bit now. ^^
What does it matter if he sneaks up on you or not? The dragon scales will always be hard, no matter what.

Also what do organs and bones matter if your skin doesn't allow the bullets to penetrate the skin? AFAIK organs and bones are BENEATH skin?
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