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On September 26 2013 17:22 OrchidThief wrote: I might've missed it, but what was the Baldwin homophobia thing a reference to? Did he make a twitter booboo of some kind?
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Scroll down past the NY mayor stuff.
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Aaah have pretty much forgotten that it would start up again so this was a pleasant suprise. Cant wait till I'll be able to catch it.
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Butters' part was pretty funny, but the central computer bit just made me laugh out loud for reals. It's so obvious once you see it, but it still caught me by surprise.
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The last 2 minutes of this episode are amazing
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I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute.
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What is Alec Baldwin famous for, btw? I only know him from 30 Rock, where he plays a Republican industrialist. Is he like that in real life at all?
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On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. You mean this didn't have a point? The point wasn't "people should stop complaing about being spied on by the NSA and about how they have no privacy anymore while also putting pretty much every thought they have on the internet through social media (not to mention the public phone call bit)"? I really don't know how you could've missed that 
Not to mention the notion of how ridiculous it is that the NSA is keeping track of everybody's email, twitter, etc.
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On September 26 2013 20:58 SixStrings wrote: What is Alec Baldwin famous for, btw? I only know him from 30 Rock, where he plays a Republican industrialist. Is he like that in real life at all?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000285/
Lotsa good movies there.
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On September 26 2013 21:14 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. You mean this didn't have a point? The point wasn't "people should stop complaing about being spied on by the NSA and about how they have no privacy anymore while also putting pretty much every thought they have on the internet through social media (not to mention the public phone call bit)"? I really don't know how you could've missed that  Not to mention the notion of how ridiculous it is that the NSA is keeping track of everybody's email, twitter, etc. Not really. Sure, they made fun of people who complain about the NSA while simultaneously publishing their entire private life online for all to see anyhow. But they also made fun of people blindly trusting the government so much that they might as well start praying to it. And they made fun of the people not caring about what the NSA is doing, even though it's obviously horrific (poor, poor Santa). And they made fun of people believing that the NSA is literally reading all their private mails. And they made fun of Snowden for not having as much of an impact as he'd like.
That's what I mean. They simply make fun of everything, but there's no real point to any of it. They pick an easy-to-make-fun-of group from every corner and parody that, and that's about it. South Park used to be a vehicle for Matt and Trey to voice their opinions on current matters, and they used to be pretty smart, reasonable opinions, and I really liked that (even if I didn't always agree). Now they're just ridiculing everyone. That's still funny, but it sadly doesn't go beyond being funny.
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On September 26 2013 21:14 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. You mean this didn't have a point? The point wasn't "people should stop complaing about being spied on by the NSA and about how they have no privacy anymore while also putting pretty much every thought they have on the internet through social media (not to mention the public phone call bit)"? I really don't know how you could've missed that  Not to mention the notion of how ridiculous it is that the NSA is keeping track of everybody's email, twitter, etc. Except that if you keep up to date on the NSA, you would know that the problem isn't reading stuff people post for other people to see, it's about tracking every piece of information going through US servers and probably quite a few ones overseas. Even the most secure and private messages are being intercepted.
Weak opener, if it wasn't for Butters, the episode would fall really flat.
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people actually liked the butters part? wth it was so bad. it was like a chore watching it...what was funny about it?
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On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute.
Huh? In the actual good old days in SP they were just a comedy show, they made barely any points. They were just funny as fuck. Like weight fain 4000 or chickenlover...they're just funny.
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On September 27 2013 00:23 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. Huh? In the actual good old days in SP they were just a comedy show, they made barely any points. They were just funny as fuck. Like weight fain 4000 or chickenlover...they're just funny. Of course it's up for discussion when exactly the "good old days" were, but surely you know about those seasons that had a moral-of-the-story kind of ending in pretty much every episode? Or episodes like the Butters special, the Scientology episode, the Mormon episode.. there's so many examples of them making a very specific point about a particular topic in an episode, I really don't see how you could have missed that.
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On September 27 2013 00:28 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 00:23 sc4k wrote:On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. Huh? In the actual good old days in SP they were just a comedy show, they made barely any points. They were just funny as fuck. Like weight fain 4000 or chickenlover...they're just funny. Of course it's up for discussion when exactly the "good old days" were, but surely you know about those seasons that had a moral-of-the-story kind of ending in pretty much every episode? Or episodes like the Butters special, the Scientology episode, the Mormon episode.. there's so many examples of them making a very specific point about a particular topic in an episode, I really don't see how you could have missed that.
No offense but if you can't see the moral of this episode then that's on you.
With that said, I'm just not a fan of the newer seasons. I'll keep watching them because it's South Park, but the show definitely peeked around season ~7 or so.
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On September 27 2013 00:43 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 00:28 Conti wrote:On September 27 2013 00:23 sc4k wrote:On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. Huh? In the actual good old days in SP they were just a comedy show, they made barely any points. They were just funny as fuck. Like weight fain 4000 or chickenlover...they're just funny. Of course it's up for discussion when exactly the "good old days" were, but surely you know about those seasons that had a moral-of-the-story kind of ending in pretty much every episode? Or episodes like the Butters special, the Scientology episode, the Mormon episode.. there's so many examples of them making a very specific point about a particular topic in an episode, I really don't see how you could have missed that. No offense but if you can't see the moral of this episode then that's on you. I'll bite. What's the moral of this episode?
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On September 27 2013 00:45 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 00:43 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:On September 27 2013 00:28 Conti wrote:On September 27 2013 00:23 sc4k wrote:On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. Huh? In the actual good old days in SP they were just a comedy show, they made barely any points. They were just funny as fuck. Like weight fain 4000 or chickenlover...they're just funny. Of course it's up for discussion when exactly the "good old days" were, but surely you know about those seasons that had a moral-of-the-story kind of ending in pretty much every episode? Or episodes like the Butters special, the Scientology episode, the Mormon episode.. there's so many examples of them making a very specific point about a particular topic in an episode, I really don't see how you could have missed that. No offense but if you can't see the moral of this episode then that's on you. I'll bite. What's the moral of this episode? I wouldn't call them morals, just points they were making. One point was simply to lampoon the sort of people who put everything in their lives on the internet and then demand privacy. One is that 99.999% of the stuff on the internet the NSA has no interest in at all. Another is that government has become the modern religion. Instead of looking to God to solve every problem we face, we look to government. Instead of relying on an all seeing God to make us feel safe and secure, we rely on all seeing government agencies like the NSA. Yet another point is that anywhere you have this sort of power and public dependence on an institution it will inevitably abuse that power and trust; the priest molestation scandal was just the vehicle for this point.
Matt and Trey are really brilliant writers, and most of their episodes have incredible depth and a dozen different points buried within them, some obvious and some not so obvious. Unfortunately most people don't comprehend half of them, especially when considering they are the only libertarian writers in hollywood and most of their audience are the statists they are critiquing.
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On September 27 2013 01:18 TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 00:45 Conti wrote:On September 27 2013 00:43 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:On September 27 2013 00:28 Conti wrote:On September 27 2013 00:23 sc4k wrote:On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. Huh? In the actual good old days in SP they were just a comedy show, they made barely any points. They were just funny as fuck. Like weight fain 4000 or chickenlover...they're just funny. Of course it's up for discussion when exactly the "good old days" were, but surely you know about those seasons that had a moral-of-the-story kind of ending in pretty much every episode? Or episodes like the Butters special, the Scientology episode, the Mormon episode.. there's so many examples of them making a very specific point about a particular topic in an episode, I really don't see how you could have missed that. No offense but if you can't see the moral of this episode then that's on you. I'll bite. What's the moral of this episode? I wouldn't call them morals, just points they were making. One point was simply to lampoon the sort of people who put everything in their lives on the internet and then demand privacy. One is that 99.999% of the stuff on the internet the NSA has no interest in at all. Another is that government has become the modern religion. Instead of looking to God to solve every problem we face, we look to government. Instead of relying on an all seeing God to make us feel safe and secure, we rely on all seeing government agencies like the NSA. Yet another point is that anywhere you have this sort of power and public dependence on an institution it will inevitably abuse that power and trust; the priest molestation scandal was just the vehicle for this point. Matt and Trey are really brilliant writers, and most of their episodes have incredible depth and a dozen different points buried within them, some obvious and some not so obvious. Unfortunately most people don't comprehend half of them, especially when considering they are the only libertarian writers in hollywood and most of their audience are the statists they are critiquing.
Thanks, I really didn't feel like having to spell out this entire episode and you worded it much better than I ever could have.
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On September 27 2013 01:18 TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 00:45 Conti wrote:On September 27 2013 00:43 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:On September 27 2013 00:28 Conti wrote:On September 27 2013 00:23 sc4k wrote:On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. Huh? In the actual good old days in SP they were just a comedy show, they made barely any points. They were just funny as fuck. Like weight fain 4000 or chickenlover...they're just funny. Of course it's up for discussion when exactly the "good old days" were, but surely you know about those seasons that had a moral-of-the-story kind of ending in pretty much every episode? Or episodes like the Butters special, the Scientology episode, the Mormon episode.. there's so many examples of them making a very specific point about a particular topic in an episode, I really don't see how you could have missed that. No offense but if you can't see the moral of this episode then that's on you. I'll bite. What's the moral of this episode? I wouldn't call them morals, just points they were making. One point was simply to lampoon the sort of people who put everything in their lives on the internet and then demand privacy. One is that 99.999% of the stuff on the internet the NSA has no interest in at all. Another is that government has become the modern religion. Instead of looking to God to solve every problem we face, we look to government. Instead of relying on an all seeing God to make us feel safe and secure, we rely on all seeing government agencies like the NSA. Yet another point is that anywhere you have this sort of power and public dependence on an institution it will inevitably abuse that power and trust; the priest molestation scandal was just the vehicle for this point. Matt and Trey are really brilliant writers, and most of their episodes have incredible depth and a dozen different points buried within them, some obvious and some not so obvious. Unfortunately most people don't comprehend half of them, especially when considering they are the only libertarian writers in hollywood and most of their audience are the statists they are critiquing. Scroll a few posts up, I summarized pretty much exactly the same points a few posts ago. And my point was that Matt and Trey are now simply parodying everyone/everything involved in an issue, instead of making a singular point that they feel is most important about an issue. Maybe I just didn't get that across as well as I hoped.
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On September 27 2013 01:34 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 01:18 TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:On September 27 2013 00:45 Conti wrote:On September 27 2013 00:43 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:On September 27 2013 00:28 Conti wrote:On September 27 2013 00:23 sc4k wrote:On September 26 2013 20:21 Conti wrote: I kind of miss the good old days when they were actually trying to make a point with their episode, instead of parodying every aspect of some current issue. But it was still a pretty funny episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that last minute. Huh? In the actual good old days in SP they were just a comedy show, they made barely any points. They were just funny as fuck. Like weight fain 4000 or chickenlover...they're just funny. Of course it's up for discussion when exactly the "good old days" were, but surely you know about those seasons that had a moral-of-the-story kind of ending in pretty much every episode? Or episodes like the Butters special, the Scientology episode, the Mormon episode.. there's so many examples of them making a very specific point about a particular topic in an episode, I really don't see how you could have missed that. No offense but if you can't see the moral of this episode then that's on you. I'll bite. What's the moral of this episode? I wouldn't call them morals, just points they were making. One point was simply to lampoon the sort of people who put everything in their lives on the internet and then demand privacy. One is that 99.999% of the stuff on the internet the NSA has no interest in at all. Another is that government has become the modern religion. Instead of looking to God to solve every problem we face, we look to government. Instead of relying on an all seeing God to make us feel safe and secure, we rely on all seeing government agencies like the NSA. Yet another point is that anywhere you have this sort of power and public dependence on an institution it will inevitably abuse that power and trust; the priest molestation scandal was just the vehicle for this point. Matt and Trey are really brilliant writers, and most of their episodes have incredible depth and a dozen different points buried within them, some obvious and some not so obvious. Unfortunately most people don't comprehend half of them, especially when considering they are the only libertarian writers in hollywood and most of their audience are the statists they are critiquing. Scroll a few posts up, I summarized pretty much exactly the same points a few posts ago. And my point was that Matt and Trey are now simply parodying everyone/everything involved in an issue, instead of making a singular point that they feel is most important about an issue. Maybe I just didn't get that across as well as I hoped. The fact that they had multiple points instead of a singular point is a good thing in my mind. But at this point I think you just enjoy nitpicking and criticizing shows or their fans for some reason. Do you want to be a critic or something?
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Let's be honest, everyone who watched the episode with no expectation might be satisfied, but for someone who has been eagerly awaiting the start of season 17 it was a huge letdown.
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