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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 09:59 GMT
#1621
Rubick/Meepo 2nd phase bans. TI Grand Finals always get strategically wild.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 25 2019 09:59 GMT
#1622
OG needed a warmup game against both EG and LGD as well. Liquid had games earlier, but it may take its toll later on.
LiangHao
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9592 Posts
August 25 2019 10:00 GMT
#1623
On August 25 2019 18:56 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:56 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:53 IshinShishi wrote:
Ana was still gigantic, Miracle was still paper and couldn't stay alive more than 5 sec vs the spectre, if he had bought at any moment before Liquid reaches the t4s, OG holds.

Tide had ravage, possibly a second (I think he had refresher shard?), TA has BKB. Spectre doesn't have BKB.

Nah.


still worth a shot though? lol


ofc still worth trying but stop thinking that Ana buying back would be like an axe call on every TL hero, the cores were prepared to hit buildings and thats what they did. Once you've let them in so far into your base, into the T4s I feel it was a done deal. How do you deal with TL's lineup? you trade and force fights on their half of the map because once they're inside your base buildings fall.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
August 25 2019 10:00 GMT
#1624
On August 25 2019 18:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Rubick/Meepo 2nd phase bans. TI Grand Finals always get strategically wild.

I wouldn't have believed if you told me this would TI grandfinals meta.
this is a quote
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 25 2019 10:01 GMT
#1625
On August 25 2019 18:51 Sif_ wrote:
Just gotta tweak buyback's gold calculation a bit. Make it more expensive, so people have to willingly choose to be weaker in order to have buyback (even more so than now). And in a way that ramps up a bit faster as the game goes on.

Nah I think buybacks should be on team level. Buybacks should recharge on a team level, like dust or wards or whatever.
The Bomber boy
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 10:02:23
August 25 2019 10:01 GMT
#1626
Enchantress still in the pool. What's going on.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 10:02 GMT
#1627
On August 25 2019 19:00 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Rubick/Meepo 2nd phase bans. TI Grand Finals always get strategically wild.

I wouldn't have believed if you told me this would TI grandfinals meta.


Grand Finals meta makes any sense, unless there's 5 truly broken heroes. The extra 1st phase ban made the meta more wild because there's never really 6 broken heroes.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 25 2019 10:02 GMT
#1628
Now OG is gonna regret they didn't get a Rubick.
LiangHao
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 10:02 GMT
#1629
On August 25 2019 19:01 Elurie wrote:
Enchanter still in the pool. What's going on.

Liquid can't play with Enchantress and Liquid can counter enchantress, so OG won't pick it anymore either.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 10:04:24
August 25 2019 10:03 GMT
#1630
On August 25 2019 18:49 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:48 Artisreal wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:46 babysimba wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:41 spudde123 wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
See, what i said about game being random making it hard to play well?

This game degenerated into a complete ranked pub from a single throw by Miracle.


I would need to watch previous years to remember clearly, how the game felt at 50-60mins but it feels like it's far harder to cleanly initiate these days. With so many defensive items, heroes being so tanky and so on, you sometimes can hardly even jump supports. And then if you do jump, they will have enough gold to buyback anyway and you'll lose rosh because you made the mistake of trying to initiate and blowing your cds

They need to fix buyback dota, like only allowing heroes to TP 5secs after buyback.

1bb per team per minute

adjust time delay to a sensible

That would discourage team to go on the offensive. I suggested TP cooldown after buyback so it won't affect teams who go on aggressive plays.

good point.

The events suggested by nojok kind of remind me of the Blizzard game. Heart of .... something?
Did not enjoy watching it though so I'm not really leaning into trying that out.
On August 25 2019 18:50 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:49 nojok wrote:
We need more events on the map on top of roshan and bounty runes! Those events could give buyback charges!

Oh like some heroes of the storm thing where you have to do a mini game or something?

thats it
passive quaranstream fan
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 25 2019 10:03 GMT
#1631
liquids doing a secret draft
posting on liquid sites in current year
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 10:03 GMT
#1632
On August 25 2019 19:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:01 Elurie wrote:
Enchanter still in the pool. What's going on.

Liquid can't play with Enchantress and Liquid can counter enchantress, so OG won't pick it anymore either.


Unless they play 5 Enchantress, TL ends up with MC on a static hero. That's bad for their teamplay.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
August 25 2019 10:04 GMT
#1633
On August 25 2019 19:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:00 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Rubick/Meepo 2nd phase bans. TI Grand Finals always get strategically wild.

I wouldn't have believed if you told me this would TI grandfinals meta.


Grand Finals meta makes any sense, unless there's 5 truly broken heroes. The extra 1st phase ban made the meta more wild because there's never really 6 broken heroes.

Hey careful there. We don't want Icefrog to hear such hearsay.

He might suddenly change the situation
this is a quote
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 25 2019 10:04 GMT
#1634
despite all the early deaths, ceb still had a decent game on ench
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 25 2019 10:04 GMT
#1635
this is a big moment for liquid, let's GOooooooo
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 25 2019 10:05 GMT
#1636
I don't really like OG's draft here. Kind of thinking another Liquid win coming up.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 10:05 GMT
#1637
On August 25 2019 19:04 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:00 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Rubick/Meepo 2nd phase bans. TI Grand Finals always get strategically wild.

I wouldn't have believed if you told me this would TI grandfinals meta.


Grand Finals meta makes any sense, unless there's 5 truly broken heroes. The extra 1st phase ban made the meta more wild because there's never really 6 broken heroes.

Hey careful there. We don't want Icefrog to hear such hearsay.

He might suddenly change the situation


Lol. Though eventually a team will have 6 core strategies that can avoid being banned, but no one has gotten there yet.
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
August 25 2019 10:06 GMT
#1638
I like Liquid draft better, but Topson's MK is a treat.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 10:07 GMT
#1639
Trying to figure out the synergy in this OG draft. They really don't have much lockdown, and in this meta, that tends to go poorly.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 25 2019 10:08 GMT
#1640
what a frustrating lane for miracle lol.

OG are the best mind gamers.
I don't think they'll ever tilt as a team. Individually maybe shortly but then ceb or notail will just talk them into focusing back.
passive quaranstream fan
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