On August 25 2019 15:03 maze. wrote:
Lets go 80min arc warden game to decide the finals.
Lets go 80min arc warden game to decide the finals.
if there is an arc warden pick i am shutting the stream off immediately
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Nocticate
Vatican City State2902 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:03 maze. wrote: Lets go 80min arc warden game to decide the finals. if there is an arc warden pick i am shutting the stream off immediately | ||
Sabu113
United States11048 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:04 nojok wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 14:58 Wintex wrote: I am amazed how much I feel the 10 people buyback lategame teamfight stuff that dota results in needs to be fixed in some way. I liked it a lot before, but I do think limiting them on a team basis would help. There is a bit too much gold in dota right now. I think it was initially to fix pubs so people would willingly play support. I mean it looks a lot more fun to play. Same with the balancing mechanic. I like that we aren't seeing TI4 where people get strangled out fast because it snowballs so devestatingly but laning and early game advantages feel so much weaker than they were. edit: The gold is why creeps dont feel scary. | ||
Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:01 CosmicSpiral wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 14:59 goody153 wrote: On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote: On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote: On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i mean even if rax were more important than they are the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win. But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form. Idk i have seen a game this TI with drow/enchantress/maiden and a bunch of single target heroes practically just making megacreeps worthless. ...those are all heroes that can deal with megas. If Bane and Clinkz were en vogue, we wouldn't be complaining. Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote: On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote: On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote: On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i mean even if rax were more important than they are the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win. But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form. All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes. Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match. Were you quoting someone else? ^_^ I think it's a power creep issue. It's way more manageable dealing with supers and megas given how universally strong heroes are now with talents and some of the attribute changes icefrog has made. | ||
Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:05 Snakesneaks wrote: and super creeps as well especially after the game passes 40 min mark how about melee mega creeps have bash and range mega creeps have root ? Yeah, Super & Mega creeps are going to be made scarier. | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote: On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote: On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i mean even if rax were more important than they are the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win. But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form. All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes. Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match. Isn't Rubick the highest winrate hero in the playoffs? Above 70% iirc | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:06 Taf the Ghost wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 15:05 Snakesneaks wrote: On August 25 2019 15:02 Nantrix9 wrote: Mega creeps will def get a buff. and super creeps as well especially after the game passes 40 min mark how about melee mega creeps have bash and range mega creeps have root ? Yeah, Super & Mega creeps are going to be made scarier. I guess that's the catastrophe of next patch. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:06 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote: On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote: On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote: On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i mean even if rax were more important than they are the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win. But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form. All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes. Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match. Isn't Rubick the highest winrate hero in the playoffs? Above 70% iirc He is the hero with highest amount of picks across high winrate heroes, every hero with higher winrate has significantly less picks. | ||
goody153
44137 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:06 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote: On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote: On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote: On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i mean even if rax were more important than they are the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win. But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form. All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes. Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match. Isn't Rubick the highest winrate hero in the playoffs? Above 70% iirc It is ? That actually makes sense if it true. Rubick is more like a targetted counterpick than anything else. You don't actually pick it for the sake of picking it. | ||
Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:06 Kuroeeah wrote: I think it's a power creep issue. It's way more manageable dealing with supers and megas given how universally strong heroes are now with talents and some of the attribute changes icefrog has made. Yeah, I think that's a more accurate assessment. | ||
Snakesneaks
Italy2652 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:07 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 15:06 Taf the Ghost wrote: On August 25 2019 15:05 Snakesneaks wrote: On August 25 2019 15:02 Nantrix9 wrote: Mega creeps will def get a buff. and super creeps as well especially after the game passes 40 min mark how about melee mega creeps have bash and range mega creeps have root ? Yeah, Super & Mega creeps are going to be made scarier. I guess that's the catastrophe of next patch. considering how easy heroes push back lanes, stronger upgraded creeps is compulsory and might as well throw some interesting attributes instead of bigger hp and damage | ||
Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:08 Oukka wrote: A lot of that is on spell amp i think, even mediocre wave clear is so much more effective nowadays than it used to be. If a support can kill a wave with 2 nukes instead 3 there is much less time invested. it still just speaks to how heroes in general are stronger now with spell amp and stuff. also i don't mind rubick being good, he's a cool hero | ||
Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:08 goody153 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 15:06 Ej_ wrote: On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote: On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote: On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote: On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i mean even if rax were more important than they are the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win. But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form. All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes. Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match. Isn't Rubick the highest winrate hero in the playoffs? Above 70% iirc It is ? That actually makes sense if it true. Rubick is more like a targetted counterpick than anything else. You don't actually pick it for the sake of picking it. With this meta where every lineup has at least 3 stuns, Rubick is extremely valuable. Also, this late into TI and you've got most of the best Rubick players in the game able to use the hero. That's what ends up making him seem so potent. Because he just turns fights so hard. | ||
goody153
44137 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:08 Snakesneaks wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2019 15:07 lolfail9001 wrote: On August 25 2019 15:06 Taf the Ghost wrote: On August 25 2019 15:05 Snakesneaks wrote: On August 25 2019 15:02 Nantrix9 wrote: Mega creeps will def get a buff. and super creeps as well especially after the game passes 40 min mark how about melee mega creeps have bash and range mega creeps have root ? Yeah, Super & Mega creeps are going to be made scarier. I guess that's the catastrophe of next patch. considering how easy heroes push back lanes, stronger upgraded creeps is compulsory and might as well throw some interesting attributes instead of bigger hp and damage It won't be a disaster i think. Heroes are ridiculously strong nowadays and they get maxed really fast. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:02 goody153 wrote: watch here (both twitch and steamtv has not been working for me) Will try, thanks! | ||
Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:11 lolfail9001 wrote: The real thing that is out of whack imho are gold and xp formulas, especially xp. Seeing all 10 heroes being 20+ level 50 minutes in is something that was seriously rare, ain't it? Blame tome I guess. | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On August 25 2019 15:11 lolfail9001 wrote: The real thing that is out of whack imho are gold and xp formulas, especially xp. Seeing all 10 heroes being 20+ level 50 minutes in is something that was seriously rare, ain't it? Around TI8, there had been like 150 total Pro Games to ever have 10x lvl 25s. It seems pretty common these days. | ||
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