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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 25 2019 06:06 GMT
#781
On August 25 2019 15:03 maze. wrote:
Lets go 80min arc warden game to decide the finals.

if there is an arc warden pick i am shutting the stream off immediately
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 06:07:03
August 25 2019 06:06 GMT
#782
On August 25 2019 15:04 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:58 Wintex wrote:
I am amazed how much I feel the 10 people buyback lategame teamfight stuff that dota results in needs to be fixed in some way.

I liked it a lot before, but I do think limiting them on a team basis would help.

There is a bit too much gold in dota right now. I think it was initially to fix pubs so people would willingly play support.


I mean it looks a lot more fun to play. Same with the balancing mechanic. I like that we aren't seeing TI4 where people get strangled out fast because it snowballs so devestatingly but laning and early game advantages feel so much weaker than they were.

edit: The gold is why creeps dont feel scary.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 25 2019 06:06 GMT
#783
On August 25 2019 15:01 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:59 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean even if rax were more important than they are

the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win

Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win.

But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes


I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form.

Idk i have seen a game this TI with drow/enchantress/maiden and a bunch of single target heroes practically just making megacreeps worthless.


...those are all heroes that can deal with megas. If Bane and Clinkz were en vogue, we wouldn't be complaining.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean even if rax were more important than they are

the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win

Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win.

But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes


I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form.


All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes.

Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match.


Were you quoting someone else? ^_^

I think it's a power creep issue. It's way more manageable dealing with supers and megas given how universally strong heroes are now with talents and some of the attribute changes icefrog has made.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 06:06 GMT
#784
On August 25 2019 15:05 Snakesneaks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 15:02 Nantrix9 wrote:
Mega creeps will def get a buff.


and super creeps as well especially after the game passes 40 min mark
how about melee mega creeps have bash and range mega creeps have root ?


Yeah, Super & Mega creeps are going to be made scarier.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 25 2019 06:06 GMT
#785
On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean even if rax were more important than they are

the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win

Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win.

But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes


I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form.


All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes.

Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match.

Isn't Rubick the highest winrate hero in the playoffs? Above 70% iirc
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 06:07 GMT
#786
On August 25 2019 15:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 15:05 Snakesneaks wrote:
On August 25 2019 15:02 Nantrix9 wrote:
Mega creeps will def get a buff.


and super creeps as well especially after the game passes 40 min mark
how about melee mega creeps have bash and range mega creeps have root ?


Yeah, Super & Mega creeps are going to be made scarier.


I guess that's the catastrophe of next patch.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 06:08:15
August 25 2019 06:07 GMT
#787
On August 25 2019 15:06 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean even if rax were more important than they are

the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win

Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win.

But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes


I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form.


All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes.

Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match.

Isn't Rubick the highest winrate hero in the playoffs? Above 70% iirc

He is the hero with highest amount of picks across high winrate heroes, every hero with higher winrate has significantly less picks.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44274 Posts
August 25 2019 06:08 GMT
#788
On August 25 2019 15:06 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean even if rax were more important than they are

the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win

Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win.

But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes


I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form.


All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes.

Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match.

Isn't Rubick the highest winrate hero in the playoffs? Above 70% iirc

It is ? That actually makes sense if it true. Rubick is more like a targetted counterpick than anything else. You don't actually pick it for the sake of picking it.
this is a quote
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
August 25 2019 06:08 GMT
#789
A lot of that is on spell amp i think, even mediocre wave clear is so much more effective nowadays than it used to be. If a support can kill a wave with 2 nukes instead 3 there is much less time invested.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 25 2019 06:08 GMT
#790
On August 25 2019 15:06 Kuroeeah wrote:
I think it's a power creep issue. It's way more manageable dealing with supers and megas given how universally strong heroes are now with talents and some of the attribute changes icefrog has made.


Yeah, I think that's a more accurate assessment.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
August 25 2019 06:08 GMT
#791
On August 25 2019 15:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 15:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 15:05 Snakesneaks wrote:
On August 25 2019 15:02 Nantrix9 wrote:
Mega creeps will def get a buff.


and super creeps as well especially after the game passes 40 min mark
how about melee mega creeps have bash and range mega creeps have root ?


Yeah, Super & Mega creeps are going to be made scarier.


I guess that's the catastrophe of next patch.

considering how easy heroes push back lanes, stronger upgraded creeps is compulsory
and might as well throw some interesting attributes instead of bigger hp and damage
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 25 2019 06:09 GMT
#792
On August 25 2019 15:08 Oukka wrote:
A lot of that is on spell amp i think, even mediocre wave clear is so much more effective nowadays than it used to be. If a support can kill a wave with 2 nukes instead 3 there is much less time invested.

it still just speaks to how heroes in general are stronger now with spell amp and stuff.

also i don't mind rubick being good, he's a cool hero
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 06:09 GMT
#793
On August 25 2019 15:08 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 15:06 Ej_ wrote:
On August 25 2019 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:56 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean even if rax were more important than they are

the correct play was to run in all your heroes with stampede and hope to kill somebody who didnt have bb for the win

Yep that was such a big misjudge. They were about to win.

But at least i hope megas gets buffed. It is kinda worthless at this point unless you get the rax like sub 10 minutes


I think that's more a consequence of the meta disfavoring single-target heroes in all roles. Every relevant pick has AoE or heal in some form.


All about Stuns & Damage amp. LGD was able to run to this far by knowing how to be tankier than anyone else. But, the DPS, currently, eventually overtakes.

Also, Rubick is 2-0 so far in this match.

Isn't Rubick the highest winrate hero in the playoffs? Above 70% iirc

It is ? That actually makes sense if it true. Rubick is more like a targetted counterpick than anything else. You don't actually pick it for the sake of picking it.


With this meta where every lineup has at least 3 stuns, Rubick is extremely valuable. Also, this late into TI and you've got most of the best Rubick players in the game able to use the hero. That's what ends up making him seem so potent. Because he just turns fights so hard.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44274 Posts
August 25 2019 06:10 GMT
#794
On August 25 2019 15:08 Snakesneaks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 15:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 15:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 15:05 Snakesneaks wrote:
On August 25 2019 15:02 Nantrix9 wrote:
Mega creeps will def get a buff.


and super creeps as well especially after the game passes 40 min mark
how about melee mega creeps have bash and range mega creeps have root ?


Yeah, Super & Mega creeps are going to be made scarier.


I guess that's the catastrophe of next patch.

considering how easy heroes push back lanes, stronger upgraded creeps is compulsory
and might as well throw some interesting attributes instead of bigger hp and damage

It won't be a disaster i think. Heroes are ridiculously strong nowadays and they get maxed really fast.
this is a quote
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
August 25 2019 06:10 GMT
#795
So close to grand finals...

ONE MORE BOIS, ONE MORE
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 06:11 GMT
#796
The real thing that is out of whack imho are gold and xp formulas, especially xp. Seeing all 10 heroes being 20+ level 50 minutes in is something that was seriously rare, ain't it?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 25 2019 06:11 GMT
#797
On August 25 2019 15:02 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:59 Mafe wrote:
Stream so instable for me...

watch here (both twitch and steamtv has not been working for me)




Will try, thanks!
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 25 2019 06:12 GMT
#798
On August 25 2019 15:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real thing that is out of whack imho are gold and xp formulas, especially xp. Seeing all 10 heroes being 20+ level 50 minutes in is something that was seriously rare, ain't it?

Blame tome I guess.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 25 2019 06:12 GMT
#799
I'd like to see the pace of a Dota game slowed down a notch. Doesn't feel right seeing everyone with this much farm and levels.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 06:12 GMT
#800
On August 25 2019 15:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real thing that is out of whack imho are gold and xp formulas, especially xp. Seeing all 10 heroes being 20+ level 50 minutes in is something that was seriously rare, ain't it?


Around TI8, there had been like 150 total Pro Games to ever have 10x lvl 25s. It seems pretty common these days.
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