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On May 10 2019 22:10 kerpal wrote:has anyone been banning brood against other teams? I feel like liquid used to be strong because teams had to ban odd heroes like kotl and druid
You ban it against NiP with 33. And, occasionally, VP. TL is the only other LAN-tier team that seems to use it.
TL is a long-time Wisp team, so without Wisp in Captain's Mode, they get an extra ban against one of their heroes.
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capitalist: "things going badly for liquid"
Come on cap. They have a 20k lead with a rax and are so ahead even with buyback advantage, map control and still with the most kill lead. Saying that things went badly because they whiffed one blackhole and had one of their teammate caught just sounds like awful casting
edit: nevermind the minute i typed this 2 other from liquid died
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Also Invoker and TB are out of meta and those are some of Miracles heroes that teams just tend to ban against them
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Come on Liquid, don't throw...
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On May 10 2019 22:14 goody153 wrote: capitalist: "things going badly for liquid"
Come on cap. They have a 20k lead with a rax and are so ahead even with buyback advantage, map control and still with the most kill lead. Saying that things went badly because they whiffed one blackhole and had one of their teammate caught just sounds like awful casting Nothing new, a lot of these casters just overly exaggerate stuff so they hype the situation to make it more interesting.
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I do wonder how much of liquid's season is explained by the fact that all their heroes have been nerfed. :/
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Sniper's role has been reduced to waddling in his own base.
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On May 10 2019 22:16 kerpal wrote: I do wonder how much of liquid's season is explained by the fact that all their heroes have been nerfed. :/ Not nearly all of their heroes, a lot of their signature heroes are still viable. They just play worse, you can look at gameplay and see a lot of holes and mistakes, nothing to do with their heroes.
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On May 10 2019 22:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2019 22:14 goody153 wrote: capitalist: "things going badly for liquid"
Come on cap. They have a 20k lead with a rax and are so ahead even with buyback advantage, map control and still with the most kill lead. Saying that things went badly because they whiffed one blackhole and had one of their teammate caught just sounds like awful casting Nothing new, a lot of these casters just overly exaggerate stuff so they hype the situation to make it more interesting. More like it was supposed to be a compliment but it sounds like he's making it sound it like liquid was in a bad situation instead.
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On May 10 2019 22:16 kerpal wrote: I do wonder how much of liquid's season is explained by the fact that all their heroes have been nerfed. :/
A lot. You only have so much experience on so many heroes. I think it's more the subtle nerfs on their heroes kept them from moving to other ones faster. Approaches just came up 5% short and, thus, they lose fights & matches they thought they should win.
Dota has a lot of little edges that change everything.
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On May 10 2019 22:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2019 22:16 kerpal wrote: I do wonder how much of liquid's season is explained by the fact that all their heroes have been nerfed. :/ Not nearly all of their heroes, a lot of their signature heroes are still viable. They just play worse, you can look at gameplay and see a lot of holes and mistakes, nothing to do with their heroes. Or you know competition got alot piercer. It literally happened to every dominating team so far eventually where their peers catchup and they ain't so dominating and godlike anymore when everybody can execute things they used to be the only one who could execute.
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i probably should not start debates lol.
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On May 10 2019 22:19 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2019 22:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:On May 10 2019 22:16 kerpal wrote: I do wonder how much of liquid's season is explained by the fact that all their heroes have been nerfed. :/ Not nearly all of their heroes, a lot of their signature heroes are still viable. They just play worse, you can look at gameplay and see a lot of holes and mistakes, nothing to do with their heroes. Or you know competition got alot piercer. It literally happened to every dominating team so far eventually where their peers catchup and they ain't so dominating and godlike anymore when everybody can execute things they used to be the only one who could execute those.
TL rarely has looked incredibly overmatching for other teams, even to when they had to run the Lower Bracket to win TI7.
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Oh man...Matu just got picked off.
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They are playing worse tbh, you can't deny that
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On May 10 2019 22:22 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2019 22:19 goody153 wrote:On May 10 2019 22:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:On May 10 2019 22:16 kerpal wrote: I do wonder how much of liquid's season is explained by the fact that all their heroes have been nerfed. :/ Not nearly all of their heroes, a lot of their signature heroes are still viable. They just play worse, you can look at gameplay and see a lot of holes and mistakes, nothing to do with their heroes. Or you know competition got alot piercer. It literally happened to every dominating team so far eventually where their peers catchup and they ain't so dominating and godlike anymore when everybody can execute things they used to be the only one who could execute those. TL rarely has looked incredibly overmatching for other teams, even to when they had to run the Lower Bracket to win TI7. Well that's true. Tbh LFY looked absolutely hot that time and was looking more like the TI winner well at until Newbee completely blew the finals then Liquid looked like the best team in TI
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The 322 is so strong here.
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On May 10 2019 22:23 Faruko wrote: They are playing worse tbh, you can't deny that see?
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You know Yang is the last person i would expect to carry VG.
He is basically going into angles that are so unexpected.
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