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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 20 2018 19:10 GMT
#341
It was just an alchemist outdraft. PPD picked abaddon to make his lineup a tanky deathball and abaddon is good against willow's CCs. Liquid saw weakness in lack of damage and picked alch.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-20 19:12:07
August 20 2018 19:11 GMT
#342
On August 21 2018 04:09 Achaian wrote:
unusual NP pick, what's the plan here?

oh lord there's a brood, time to hope kunkka is still good

NP could be 4/5 pos . It gives PPD wiggle room on draft with the unpredictability if one slot ( since NP can be all position except mid)
this is a quote
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 20 2018 19:12 GMT
#343
On August 21 2018 04:09 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2018 04:00 Yurie wrote:
Miracle has become more open over the pro years. Can see the personal development outside the game.

Not much of a fan of this kind of player. Reminds me too much of a good majority of StarCraft pros who basically seem like similar to each other even if you watched alot of their interviews and stuff

I'm glad that most dota pros are clearly outspoken or are an open book even the Chinese pros

It's a team game, chances are faceless dudes have a tougher time making it to the top.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-20 19:13:56
August 20 2018 19:13 GMT
#344
anyone has link to the chinese stream?
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 20 2018 19:13 GMT
#345
I have zero idea what ppd is doing

lower bracket run hype
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
August 20 2018 19:15 GMT
#346
On August 21 2018 04:12 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2018 04:09 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2018 04:00 Yurie wrote:
Miracle has become more open over the pro years. Can see the personal development outside the game.

Not much of a fan of this kind of player. Reminds me too much of a good majority of StarCraft pros who basically seem like similar to each other even if you watched alot of their interviews and stuff

I'm glad that most dota pros are clearly outspoken or are an open book even the Chinese pros

It's a team game, chances are faceless dudes have a tougher time making it to the top.

Need to be sociable and outspoken to get into the top teams I suppose

Might also be a factor that social media is prevalent at the time dota2 became a thing and that dota2 scene has no restriction that sc pros have where they have to be all polite and shit. They can't even publicly flame while dota pros get a lot of leeway when they offend somebody
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
August 20 2018 19:15 GMT
#347
This looks such a normal draft for liquid
this is a quote
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 20 2018 19:15 GMT
#348
outdrafted again
ffxiv enjoyer
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 20 2018 19:16 GMT
#349
Might be a storm game.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 20 2018 19:16 GMT
#350
On August 21 2018 04:10 goody153 wrote:
Brood might get needed bigtime post TI as we are seeing that hero get 1st picked a lot

And haven't seen VS carry

I mean that's the case for over a year right now lol. Brood got "nerfed" multiple times, but it kind of ended as buff with lowering Spiders bounty from like 31 gold to 9, and Spiderites from 20 to 3. It just killed any kind of "counters" because even if she gets countered she can go to jungle while counter hero didn't get nearly as much gold from Spiderlings, and Brood still just outfarms you.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 20 2018 19:18 GMT
#351
Nahaz referencing his little tweet spat lmao.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
August 20 2018 19:18 GMT
#352
Not sure I'm liking the Nahaz segues into the game, the cutoff is too abrupt
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 20 2018 19:18 GMT
#353
nahaz is an actual living meme
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
ironcell
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1127 Posts
August 20 2018 19:19 GMT
#354
On August 21 2018 04:15 Stancel wrote:
outdrafted again


Looks like it, Liquid showcasing what they are the team to beat.
I not sure if i like the Nahaz 60 sec data.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 20 2018 19:19 GMT
#355
They're trying to mimic post-game weatherman purge with this pre-game nahaz stats and it's just not working.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
August 20 2018 19:20 GMT
#356
On August 21 2018 04:18 andyrau wrote:
nahaz is an actual living meme

Kinda like his Bruno role here
this is a quote
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 20 2018 19:21 GMT
#357
On August 21 2018 04:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2018 04:10 goody153 wrote:
Brood might get needed bigtime post TI as we are seeing that hero get 1st picked a lot

And haven't seen VS carry

I mean that's the case for over a year right now lol. Brood got "nerfed" multiple times, but it kind of ended as buff with lowering Spiders bounty from like 31 gold to 9, and Spiderites from 20 to 3. It just killed any kind of "counters" because even if she gets countered she can go to jungle while counter hero didn't get nearly as much gold from Spiderlings, and Brood still just outfarms you.

Sick talent too, brood used to disappear once even in gold during lategame. I'm not a big fan of the smoothing of power curves btw and brood clearly benefitted a lot from it as her lategame was put at a decent level while she still retains a decent part of her early and mid game power.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 20 2018 19:21 GMT
#358
Optic wins if they survive the brood early game. They have tons of wave push to avoid fights and drag the game til they have better late game.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 20 2018 19:21 GMT
#359
voice chat is on point
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 20 2018 19:21 GMT
#360
hahaha
the all chats
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
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