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On August 21 2018 04:00 Yurie wrote: Miracle has become more open over the pro years. Can see the personal development outside the game. We owe Fly/N0tail for a lot of that, they basically made him from a nerdy pubstar to a great teammate
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On August 21 2018 04:00 Yurie wrote: Miracle has become more open over the pro years. Can see the personal development outside the game. Haha yeah he was so awkward in front of the camera before. This whole interview with the team was a lot more enjoyable than the rest I've seen in previous years.
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On August 21 2018 04:00 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2018 03:58 LemOn wrote: yeah this wasn't cancer alch at all Radiance treads blink =>in your face =>manta =>AC =end game 4p1 stall alch wouldn't work on that game as optic would just meme push them and that would mean liquid would've to dodge fights or creep skip or do something to give alch time to farm That was a good decision to add alch on the fights No matter the plan, 12 min radiance means game over.
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On August 21 2018 04:01 Papercappu wrote: Pretty sure lvl15 IO can take half of that alch's hp. spirit vessel is good too. i don't think that alch was that scary if optic planned their game well
true. I don't think the game was that bad. Some misplay by Paikat and CCnC really costed them.
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that game was a combination of alch got too free of a laning phase and liquid playing better
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well on the bright side there are tons of chinese teams in the LB for ppd to meme over
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On August 21 2018 04:01 Papercappu wrote: Pretty sure lvl15 IO can take half of that alch's hp. spirit vessel is good too. i don't think that alch was that scary if optic planned their game well That is if IO gets to the level 15 lol. They had nothing, they have very passive supports, they couldn't gank, they couldn't win lanes, Aba support is actually game losing crap, especially if you play him in offlane. IO is good but you are getting outleveled against Lich and he just provides sustain/tankiness to the DK, if it was someone like CK with IO, or PA, Lich would die a lot, DK can't do much without gap closer.
And because of all of that, Alche has free farm because nobody can gank him, and the game ended just like that.
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On August 21 2018 04:03 uthgard wrote: that game was a combination of alch got too free of a laning phase and liquid playing better i wouldn't fault optic for that, what can you do with wisp aba And vs wk/willow and Lich/clinks lanes?
You just can't go on alch as you won't kill him and your sides will get rolled over
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On August 21 2018 03:59 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2018 03:57 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2018 03:54 LemOn wrote:On August 21 2018 03:51 synapse wrote: GG pls ban alch How though It isn't Liquid go to pick hasn't been for a long time In retrospect it seemed obvious But they just don't pick it + were saving strats for a long time Just watch when they will be pressured they'll pull some other hero out of the bag that seems "obvious" and this will happen again People still believe in the saving strats thing ? Think that was just liquid being great and optic not that great Also like others pointed out alch/lich armor sounds really tough to crack Umm pretty much everyone sees the obvious strat saving + trying to bait autobans in the groups by the top teams Who is this everyone ? Im not the only one who argues this "saving starts isn't a thing" and been arguing for years. This is the first time I've heard it again
And it doesn't even work if you think about it considering the evolving meta which one lineup may not work anymore of it worked last week.
Then there's also teams doing everything to figure out which is the meta of the tournamen
I dont deny that each team has a specific cheese strat but not a strat that would surely works regardless of the meta in the moment they pop it
Cause that sounds like a fiction trope lol
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There's an awful lot of discussion for such a boring game.
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On August 21 2018 04:04 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2018 04:03 uthgard wrote: that game was a combination of alch got too free of a laning phase and liquid playing better i wouldn't fault optic for that, what can you do with wisp aba And vs wk/willow and Lich/clinks lanes? You just can't go on alch as you won't kill him and your sides will get rolled over yea, actually even before the game started I prefer tiny as support to roam around and ganks and let abba get the lane
might worked better for them, who knows
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ppd picking bane for himself calling it
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Lovely draft.
edit: there we go
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On August 21 2018 04:00 Yurie wrote: Miracle has become more open over the pro years. Can see the personal development outside the game. Not much of a fan of this kind of player. Reminds me too much of a good majority of StarCraft pros who basically seem like similar to each other even if you watched alot of their interviews and stuff
I'm glad that most dota pros are clearly outspoken or are an open book even the Chinese pros
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Man he really wants to be the first one to beat Liquid with Tiny.
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unusual NP pick, what's the plan here?
oh lord there's a brood, time to hope kunkka is still good
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Optic looking wrecked in the booth , only one with some vitality is PPD , lets hope they can give us a good game (probably losing , but still)
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Brood might get needed bigtime post TI as we are seeing that hero get 1st picked a lot
And haven't seen VS carry
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