VP are pretty incredible when on form. Their drafting and play is so strong for the laning phase that most teams don't even have a chance. That's why it's hard to see them crumble all that hard even at TI. I can't see them losing against teams far below them. But of course you only need to lose 1 series in the upper bracket and suddenly they may be against TL or something again in the lower bracket pretty early on.

Solo_322

8 Posts

May 27 2018 17:21 GMT

#142

There's left one more Mercedes for 9Pasha

BlazingGlory

Bulgaria855 Posts

May 27 2018 17:21 GMT

#143

Atm i dont see any other TI grand-final other than LGD-VP...

Nocticate

Vatican City State2902 Posts

May 27 2018 17:24 GMT

#144

On May 28 2018 02:21 BlazingGlory wrote:
Atm i dont see any other TI grand-final other than LGD-VP...

neither team is invincible. if they meet in UB (which they should if they're the two best teams) one will go down to LB and could very well get taken out by a team that has figured them out enough to take them out.

267

64 Posts

May 27 2018 17:24 GMT

#145

Well played VP! This team was on their own level this tournament. Hopefully LGD can put them better to the test in the next one. Or perhaps liquid start play to their ability and find counters to VP.

As for all the other teams I think they can only hope that VP is on the other side of the bracket x)

267

64 Posts

May 27 2018 17:27 GMT

#146

Also very good tournament for Optic overall. At least they manage to put up a fight in the second game. I don't think any of the other teams would have fared better.

550

418 Posts

May 27 2018 17:28 GMT

#147

On May 28 2018 02:21 BlazingGlory wrote:
Atm i dont see any other TI grand-final other than LGD-VP...

rofl

naw.healthy amount of lack-of-attention has been the common theme for TI-placers

sure they can skill their way up top, but its gonna be low chance, as if u never watched TI rofl.

still think Optics a good contender

BlazingGlory

Bulgaria855 Posts

May 27 2018 17:28 GMT

#148

On May 28 2018 02:24 Nocticate wrote:

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Of course it can happen and the chance aint even that low. But for me it will still be a surprise. The only thing i can see more than others is TL figuring something out...

Gamble28

Germany107 Posts

May 27 2018 17:28 GMT

#149

On May 28 2018 02:27 267 wrote:
Also very good tournament for Optic overall. At least they manage to put up a fight in the second game. I don't think any of the other teams would have fared better.

this! if u see the performance of the other teams, every single one of them would have get stomped here

GOHF

United States1864 Posts

May 27 2018 17:29 GMT

#150

On May 28 2018 02:24 Nocticate wrote:

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Plus LGD has had the better end of their record against VP, but VP are a team that does tend to study the opponents who beat them and come back wiser. Happened against Liquid.

Optic got memed though. The fact that the tournament was only watchable on BSJ’s stream for me made it all the more appropriate.

550

418 Posts

May 27 2018 17:33 GMT

#151

dude watching on unofficial streams surely gonna ruin your viewing experience

itd be like watching a dude clicking on "Watch" tab in Dota
(which is exactly what it is)
no tournament feel at all

no wonder so many people are going "SUPER SH!T FORMT (plus eg lozt)"

its really allright for me on live.esl-one . com
crowd esp. is great

GOHF

United States1864 Posts

May 27 2018 17:45 GMT

#152

On May 28 2018 02:33 550 wrote:
dude watching on unofficial streams surely gonna ruin your viewing experience

itd be like watching a dude clicking on "Watch" tab in Dota
(which is exactly what it is)
no tournament feel at all

no wonder so many people are going "SUPER SH!T FORMT (plus eg lozt)"

its really allright for me on live.esl-one . com
crowd esp. is great

Does it load on mobile?

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

May 27 2018 17:52 GMT

#153

I'd rather watch BSJ than support a fucking Facebook stream that is only there because ESL wanted to get paid instead of provide a good user experience.

550

418 Posts

May 27 2018 18:08 GMT

#154

i duno i had no issues what so ever
(on live.esl-one.com)

whats the bad thing about facebook anyway? isnt it a pretty tame company? dat russ/election/media issue thingy u see on youtube?

bluzi

4703 Posts

May 27 2018 18:11 GMT

#155

On May 28 2018 02:52 DwD wrote:

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I'd rather watch BSJ than support a fucking Facebook stream that is only there because ESL wanted to get paid instead of provide a good user experience.

Asking for real , as i dont have a facebook account but the facebook stream (which was transparent when using the ESL website) was amazing , better then i get on twitch , what is that user experience that we missed ? really interested to know.

BlazingGlory

Bulgaria855 Posts

May 27 2018 18:39 GMT

#156

You need some more clicks to find the stream and miss on the big chat experience which is a plus for me. Stream on ESL site was freezing from time to time for me( especially when i tabbed for longer ), but still quite enjoyable.

Sapaio

Denmark2037 Posts

May 27 2018 18:43 GMT

#157

Had the same problem with facebook that the screen froze and i missed some big teams fights as it took time to quite full screen and reload. My cable tv has ESL on, but used fb for 2 channel in group stage. Otherwise good quality without going up and down like Twitch and less adds that interrupt.

Kelefei2016

Papua New Guinea504 Posts

May 28 2018 17:01 GMT

#158

Team needs some luck to win the title. LGD can be strong but u can "ask" Mineski to eliminate LGD and then u eliminate Mineski, without head to head match against LGD in which u would probably lose.

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