• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:14
CEST 23:14
KST 06:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival6TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest0Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou21Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET10Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO8
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
Is there anyway to get a private coach? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals ASL final tickets help Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Roaring Currents ASL final Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1550 users

[ESL] 2018 Birmingham Major - Quarter Finals - Page 9

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 Next All
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 25 2018 19:08 GMT
#161
On May 26 2018 04:05 Alpino wrote:
EE and Fnatic going for great and interesting plays and Purge's insight is about whatever the losing team is doing wrong. Unfit for commentary and overrated.

after listening to BSJ's analysis on drafts, itemchoices, timings, gameplan etc. there isn't really the same level of knowledge on the established "analysts" (kyle not included)
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
May 25 2018 19:09 GMT
#162
On May 26 2018 04:08 Sloke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 04:05 Alpino wrote:
EE and Fnatic going for great and interesting plays and Purge's insight is about whatever the losing team is doing wrong. Unfit for commentary and overrated.

after listening to BSJ's analysis on drafts, itemchoices, timings, gameplan etc. there isn't really the same level of knowledge on the established "analysts" (kyle not included)

I know Synd wants to be a pro player, but man do I miss him + Tobi
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 25 2018 19:14 GMT
#163
DK couldn't even scratch anyone with dragonform against crimson. good old desperation smoke.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 25 2018 19:14 GMT
#164
Death Prophet looking to go 2-0 against Chen.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 25 2018 19:16 GMT
#165
dOGshit as usual. really only got through this far because of the format. I would say I hope this is a wakeup call for them but they've already gotten enough of those at this point.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
May 25 2018 19:16 GMT
#166
Fnatic are clearly the better team, dunno what happened 1st game...
Aznupdown
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada318 Posts
May 25 2018 19:19 GMT
#167
gg wp
I said hiii
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
May 25 2018 19:19 GMT
#168
That was a Fnatic win from minute 1. GG
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 25 2018 19:19 GMT
#169
I was worried after the game 1 loss, but I am so glad Fnatic won, now it's time to take out another OG!
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
May 25 2018 19:20 GMT
#170
damn universe, what a player
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
May 25 2018 19:20 GMT
#171
Fnatic was solid this series, deserved
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 25 2018 19:21 GMT
#172
On May 26 2018 04:16 BlazingGlory wrote:
Fnatic are clearly the better team, dunno what happened 1st game...

It's simple, OG played better in game 1, just like Pain played better in 3 out of 4 games against Liquid.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 25 2018 19:22 GMT
#173
On May 26 2018 04:16 Nocticate wrote:
dOGshit as usual. really only got through this far because of the format. I would say I hope this is a wakeup call for them but they've already gotten enough of those at this point.

can't really argue against it. dodging liquid completely in group into losing both bo1's in the first place decider.
they still play completely crazy drafts and with those role switching and what not. atm you just have to say that their strategies and comfort on certain heroes are not good enough for T2+
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
May 25 2018 19:24 GMT
#174
On May 26 2018 04:08 Sloke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 04:05 Alpino wrote:
EE and Fnatic going for great and interesting plays and Purge's insight is about whatever the losing team is doing wrong. Unfit for commentary and overrated.

after listening to BSJ's analysis on drafts, itemchoices, timings, gameplan etc. there isn't really the same level of knowledge on the established "analysts" (kyle not included)

#DontTPToTheDeadLane
#PromocodeBSJ
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 25 2018 19:27 GMT
#175
Well, tomorrow is going to be dang interesting. VP vs SA's VP imitation in the first series, then Optic vs Fnatic with TI direct invites riding on the line.

Oh, and someone needs to play well enough to win a Mercedes. With VP only playing 5 games so far, my current vote for MVP is Tavo from Pain. Though Noone should probably win from VP's side, if they win the tournament.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-25 19:44:21
May 25 2018 19:38 GMT
#176
I should watch the beginning of game 1 again but not sure how significant the first minute was. Sometimes it's easy to underestimate how much lanes can change depending on some small things. OG smoked and caught PLD for the first blood, and they also spotted his ward and gave the money and xp to s4. The lanes probably could have gone a bit better for Fnatic without that start, which would have allowed them to make some plays earlier. Now they were constantly on the back foot in that game

In general in this event all of Fnatic's losses have come from drafts being a bit weak for lanes / them playing the lanes a bit poorly.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 25 2018 19:44 GMT
#177
Things looking scary for vgjt. They need every single series to go their way to retain their invite spot.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 25 2018 20:03 GMT
#178
On May 26 2018 04:44 Orome wrote:
Things looking scary for vgjt. They need every single series to go their way to retain their invite spot.

That's slightly over-exaggerating since pain-vp doesn't matter at all to them, but yes they need optic to beat fnatic then lose in the finals.

That said, there's always the supermajor, which neither fnatic nor optic will be attending (but vgjt will be). So they certainly have outs even if fnatic or optic pass them.

Also the 3rd place decider won't matter to vgjt either, since fnatic need 2nd place to pass them and optic need first.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 25 2018 21:20 GMT
#179
Oh wait pain can't get an invite because they got w33? Right. In my head VP-pain mattered because pain would also overtake vgjt if they won the tournament.

That does make it better for them, but it's still two series that absolutely need to go their way. And while they do still have the supermajor coming up, it's hard to fancy their chances there.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 25 2018 21:22 GMT
#180
Honestly I'd be disappointed if the top 8 didn't change somewhere in the final 2 majors
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 276
ProTech103
Railgan 85
JuggernautJason48
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18871
ZZZero.O 152
Dewaltoss 130
NaDa 7
Dota 2
syndereN421
capcasts80
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m1535
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu419
Khaldor271
Other Games
summit1g3687
Grubby2467
Mlord688
Artosis640
KnowMe177
Skadoodle177
Mew2King54
ViBE33
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1020
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 37
• musti20045 14
• davetesta3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21042
Other Games
• imaqtpie1833
• Shiphtur216
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
10h 46m
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 46m
WardiTV Invitational
14h 46m
CrankTV Team League
15h 46m
BASILISK vs Streamerzone
Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Vitality vs Team Falcon
BSL Team A[vengers]
17h 46m
Gypsy vs nOOB
JDConan vs Scan
RSL Revival
19h 46m
Wardi Open
1d 14h
CrankTV Team League
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.