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[ESL] 2018 Birmingham Major - Quarter Finals - Page 9

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Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 25 2018 19:08 GMT
#161
On May 26 2018 04:05 Alpino wrote:
EE and Fnatic going for great and interesting plays and Purge's insight is about whatever the losing team is doing wrong. Unfit for commentary and overrated.

after listening to BSJ's analysis on drafts, itemchoices, timings, gameplan etc. there isn't really the same level of knowledge on the established "analysts" (kyle not included)
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
May 25 2018 19:09 GMT
#162
On May 26 2018 04:08 Sloke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 04:05 Alpino wrote:
EE and Fnatic going for great and interesting plays and Purge's insight is about whatever the losing team is doing wrong. Unfit for commentary and overrated.

after listening to BSJ's analysis on drafts, itemchoices, timings, gameplan etc. there isn't really the same level of knowledge on the established "analysts" (kyle not included)

I know Synd wants to be a pro player, but man do I miss him + Tobi
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 25 2018 19:14 GMT
#163
DK couldn't even scratch anyone with dragonform against crimson. good old desperation smoke.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 25 2018 19:14 GMT
#164
Death Prophet looking to go 2-0 against Chen.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 25 2018 19:16 GMT
#165
dOGshit as usual. really only got through this far because of the format. I would say I hope this is a wakeup call for them but they've already gotten enough of those at this point.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
May 25 2018 19:16 GMT
#166
Fnatic are clearly the better team, dunno what happened 1st game...
Aznupdown
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada318 Posts
May 25 2018 19:19 GMT
#167
gg wp
I said hiii
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
May 25 2018 19:19 GMT
#168
That was a Fnatic win from minute 1. GG
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 25 2018 19:19 GMT
#169
I was worried after the game 1 loss, but I am so glad Fnatic won, now it's time to take out another OG!
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
May 25 2018 19:20 GMT
#170
damn universe, what a player
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
May 25 2018 19:20 GMT
#171
Fnatic was solid this series, deserved
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 25 2018 19:21 GMT
#172
On May 26 2018 04:16 BlazingGlory wrote:
Fnatic are clearly the better team, dunno what happened 1st game...

It's simple, OG played better in game 1, just like Pain played better in 3 out of 4 games against Liquid.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 25 2018 19:22 GMT
#173
On May 26 2018 04:16 Nocticate wrote:
dOGshit as usual. really only got through this far because of the format. I would say I hope this is a wakeup call for them but they've already gotten enough of those at this point.

can't really argue against it. dodging liquid completely in group into losing both bo1's in the first place decider.
they still play completely crazy drafts and with those role switching and what not. atm you just have to say that their strategies and comfort on certain heroes are not good enough for T2+
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
May 25 2018 19:24 GMT
#174
On May 26 2018 04:08 Sloke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 04:05 Alpino wrote:
EE and Fnatic going for great and interesting plays and Purge's insight is about whatever the losing team is doing wrong. Unfit for commentary and overrated.

after listening to BSJ's analysis on drafts, itemchoices, timings, gameplan etc. there isn't really the same level of knowledge on the established "analysts" (kyle not included)

#DontTPToTheDeadLane
#PromocodeBSJ
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 25 2018 19:27 GMT
#175
Well, tomorrow is going to be dang interesting. VP vs SA's VP imitation in the first series, then Optic vs Fnatic with TI direct invites riding on the line.

Oh, and someone needs to play well enough to win a Mercedes. With VP only playing 5 games so far, my current vote for MVP is Tavo from Pain. Though Noone should probably win from VP's side, if they win the tournament.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-25 19:44:21
May 25 2018 19:38 GMT
#176
I should watch the beginning of game 1 again but not sure how significant the first minute was. Sometimes it's easy to underestimate how much lanes can change depending on some small things. OG smoked and caught PLD for the first blood, and they also spotted his ward and gave the money and xp to s4. The lanes probably could have gone a bit better for Fnatic without that start, which would have allowed them to make some plays earlier. Now they were constantly on the back foot in that game

In general in this event all of Fnatic's losses have come from drafts being a bit weak for lanes / them playing the lanes a bit poorly.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 25 2018 19:44 GMT
#177
Things looking scary for vgjt. They need every single series to go their way to retain their invite spot.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 25 2018 20:03 GMT
#178
On May 26 2018 04:44 Orome wrote:
Things looking scary for vgjt. They need every single series to go their way to retain their invite spot.

That's slightly over-exaggerating since pain-vp doesn't matter at all to them, but yes they need optic to beat fnatic then lose in the finals.

That said, there's always the supermajor, which neither fnatic nor optic will be attending (but vgjt will be). So they certainly have outs even if fnatic or optic pass them.

Also the 3rd place decider won't matter to vgjt either, since fnatic need 2nd place to pass them and optic need first.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 25 2018 21:20 GMT
#179
Oh wait pain can't get an invite because they got w33? Right. In my head VP-pain mattered because pain would also overtake vgjt if they won the tournament.

That does make it better for them, but it's still two series that absolutely need to go their way. And while they do still have the supermajor coming up, it's hard to fancy their chances there.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 25 2018 21:22 GMT
#180
Honestly I'd be disappointed if the top 8 didn't change somewhere in the final 2 majors
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