[ESL] 2018 Birmingham Major - Quarter Finals - Page 10

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

May 25 2018 21:38 GMT

#181

On May 26 2018 04:08 Sloke wrote:

after listening to BSJ's analysis on drafts, itemchoices, timings, gameplan etc. there isn't really the same level of knowledge on the established "analysts" (kyle not included)

A lot of this is because the former level of pro play was a lot lower when Purge and other english analysts were pros. I like Purge, but Zephyr wasn't exactly a real team outside of Korea for a season. And Fogged, Brax et al haven't played on good teams since like 2014, and they were never on top teams. It's not really an exaggeration to say that Kyle is one of the better players who have become analysts. Winter and Synderen are probably the highest level players who speak English to be analysts aside from him (mufc was a legit team before they flamed out at TI, and Synderen has always been able to at least sneak into TI).

PPD during TI was alright, but he didn't have much experience at the actual analyst part.

Orome

Switzerland11984 Posts

May 25 2018 23:10 GMT

#182

With ppd I always got the sense that he was holding back. He never actually did much analysing beyond the fairly straightforward.

Taf the Ghost

United States11751 Posts

May 26 2018 02:54 GMT

#183

On May 26 2018 06:38 Nevuk wrote:

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ppd at TI7 also was technically the owner of a team, and he was kind of hedging everything, it felt like. The better time was when he did a Dreamleague Season 4's LAN final. ( (Wiki)

DreamLeague/Season 4 ) Was sort of random to see him on the panel, but he clearly knew what he was doing & saying.

Thing with Kyle, and why it seemed like ppd was holding back, is stuff like this: https://www.dotabuff.com/players/49317728

Kyle has 808 matches listed. He's drafted & beaten everyone important in the scene in at least one match. The last few months he's just shown the experience it takes to win. (Complexity's problems normally were around too constrained of a strategy base, and Kyle could never quite recruit top talent around him.) I expect a little less Ora-Kyle though, going forward. Partially from just not drafting all the time, and the other part to keep at least some of his thought process hidden.

maze.

Germany1392 Posts

May 26 2018 09:18 GMT

#184

On May 26 2018 06:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
Honestly I'd be disappointed if the top 8 didn't change somewhere in the final 2 majors

If the EG rumours are true then the next two days will decide the direct invites for TI.

Supermajor will have less impact on the top8 then people were expecting because only TNC and Final Tribe are outside the top8 and not disqualified for invites. It was a mistake the invite the current top10 in DPC ranking at the time to the supermajor.

Already top8: VP, TL, Secret, Newbee, VG, VGJ, Mineski, LGD
Outside top8: TNC, Final Tribe
DQ: EG?, OG, Navi, VGJ.Storm, Team Spirit, Infamous

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