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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 12 2018 09:02 GMT
#61
On May 12 2018 17:50 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Fnatic bans Sneyking and suddenly their game is a lot easier.

Sneyking was Beastmaster last game, was 1-7 and pretty much irrelevant compared to everyone else on VGJ's team. KOTL had more farm than him, and with how badly Fnatic got outdrafted, VGJ could've won 4v5 at that point.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-12 09:07:35
May 12 2018 09:05 GMT
#62
Anyone see that play by piliedie? He telekinesised the Nightstalker right next to a double damage rune and I thought that is to pick it up himself ... but he just walked away and the NS took it and used it for a gank! WTF???


// ah, was DJ not pie!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 09:06 GMT
#63
On May 12 2018 18:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 17:50 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Fnatic bans Sneyking and suddenly their game is a lot easier.

Sneyking was Beastmaster last game, was 1-7 and pretty much irrelevant compared to everyone else on VGJ's team. KOTL had more farm than him, and with how badly Fnatic got outdrafted, VGJ could've won 4v5 at that point.


VGJ.Storm, in this lineup, actually plays around Sneyking's initiation. KOTL was simply given farm priority.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 12 2018 09:13 GMT
#64
On May 12 2018 18:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 18:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 12 2018 17:50 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Fnatic bans Sneyking and suddenly their game is a lot easier.

Sneyking was Beastmaster last game, was 1-7 and pretty much irrelevant compared to everyone else on VGJ's team. KOTL had more farm than him, and with how badly Fnatic got outdrafted, VGJ could've won 4v5 at that point.


VGJ.Storm, in this lineup, actually plays around Sneyking's initiation. KOTL was simply given farm priority.

But there was no initiation, Beastmaster was farming Necronomicon level 2 and split pushing, hence the reason he had 1-7, and they won the game in other lanes, they completely destroyed Fnatic without Sneyking, and Fnatic's lineup only stood a chance in the early-mid game.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 12 2018 09:18 GMT
#65
VGJ.Storm on the verge of 2-0 vs Fnatic. That supp duo of rubik n bh; zero damage. Fnatic lost laning phase because of that n now Reso is a beast.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 09:21 GMT
#66
On May 12 2018 18:18 arghyad1 wrote:
VGJ.Storm on the verge of 2-0 vs Fnatic. That supp duo of rubik n bh; zero damage. Fnatic lost laning phase because of that n now Reso is a beast.


Morph is also one of Reso's signature heroes.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 09:24 GMT
#67
Were Fnatic, Secret & EG out partying the last two nights? I feel like there's a story to this LAN that isn't about the Meta.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 09:29 GMT
#68
Universe with a pretty bad game.

VGJ.Storm has a real chance to win this LAN.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 12 2018 09:31 GMT
#69
wow tuning in to VG.S joining KG in the finals!

I hope they'll calm down with the patches before TI, give the pros at least one and a half month without a patch before TI.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
550
Profile Joined April 2018
418 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-12 09:34:50
May 12 2018 09:34 GMT
#70
juz a hypothesis

im gonna bet this is about Meta tho

keen just didnt face Wisp/KotL/Furion/Veno yet

its a deathball-ish patch where first few engagements can decide very skewed results, with very difficult comebacks

i liked back and forth dota the most, and... i think tihs is the most Deathballish patch without too much of 322 chance..

not saying VGJS will win over Keen, but what i think will happen is the first 15 mins will define the whole game very much...

still standing by my opinion that MORPH is ridiculous, WISP also extremely OP to teams that know how to play them, i think that IO has the best winrate for teams that knows how to play it

like the very best winrate
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 12 2018 09:35 GMT
#71
VGJ.Storm vs Keen in the finals of an 8 team tournament that had EG, Secret and Fnatic. :-O

I would honestly love to blame this on the patch release, but after watching the teams play, the losses just came coz the favorites got outplayed in areas that hardly involved any new mechanics (atleast EG & Fnatic, didn't watch Secret series). Overconfidence may be.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 12 2018 09:35 GMT
#72
So much for that Secret vs Fnatic grand final hey.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44127 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-12 09:42:35
May 12 2018 09:42 GMT
#73
Lmao fnatic also lost

Now this is a minor
this is a quote
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 12 2018 09:49 GMT
#74
On May 12 2018 18:35 arghyad1 wrote:
VGJ.Storm vs Keen in the finals of an 8 team tournament that had EG, Secret and Fnatic. :-O

I would honestly love to blame this on the patch release, but after watching the teams play, the losses just came coz the favorites got outplayed in areas that hardly involved any new mechanics (atleast EG & Fnatic, didn't watch Secret series). Overconfidence may be.

Indeed. People can say whatever they want, but all the teams that have lost just played worse than the team they were facing.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 10:24 GMT
#75
On May 12 2018 18:49 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 18:35 arghyad1 wrote:
VGJ.Storm vs Keen in the finals of an 8 team tournament that had EG, Secret and Fnatic. :-O

I would honestly love to blame this on the patch release, but after watching the teams play, the losses just came coz the favorites got outplayed in areas that hardly involved any new mechanics (atleast EG & Fnatic, didn't watch Secret series). Overconfidence may be.

Indeed. People can say whatever they want, but all the teams that have lost just played worse than the team they were facing.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bangkok International Trade & Exhibition Centre/@13.6717354,100.6098758,14.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x30e2a00e14cd4c93:0xfa656177eddbb2b1!8m2!3d13.669908!4d100.610031

I'm rolling with, "they were all probably out partying too much".
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 12 2018 10:36 GMT
#76
I mean it could be the truth really. But people have to realize that teams can have a bad day or bad game. I mean Virtus.Pro lost to FlyToMoon just a week ago, not to take anything away from FTM they actually play amazing dota when in their comfort zone, but if people told me that FTM is going to beat VP with 2-0 score I would say that chances of that happening are quite low.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 10:42 GMT
#77
On May 12 2018 19:36 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I mean it could be the truth really. But people have to realize that teams can have a bad day or bad game. I mean Virtus.Pro lost to FlyToMoon just a week ago, not to take anything away from FTM they actually play amazing dota when in their comfort zone, but if people told me that FTM is going to beat VP with 2-0 score I would say that chances of that happening are quite low.


FTM tossed out their best Dota against VP while also setting the meta. Those types of tournaments happen. Here, we have 3 DPC teams with several players not quite on point and wonky drafts over multiple teams. Either the Meta shifted massively or everyone was partying too hard.

I favor the partying angle, though it's not impossible it's just a meta shift weekend.
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
May 12 2018 10:50 GMT
#78
Punks = not satisfied, monitors = smashed and everybodys brackets= destroyed. What a great tournament.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 10:53 GMT
#79
There's also the chance that Secret was sandbagging a bit because MDL starts Monday.

Look at that, VGJ.Storm first ban Doom, haha.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 11:21 GMT
#80
Carry Void is rarely that good, and KG is explaining why.
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