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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 06:22 GMT
#21
On May 12 2018 15:16 Sloke wrote:
keen trying to abuse the strong meta heroes. lesh, doom and PL all feel very strong atm


What you have to do. Secret will outskill Keen if they just went 1 vs 1, so you have to leverage as much advantage as you can.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 12 2018 06:22 GMT
#22
Secret pulling out Alch, I really don't see it working at all
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-12 06:34:33
May 12 2018 06:27 GMT
#23
On May 12 2018 15:16 Sloke wrote:
keen trying to abuse the strong meta heroes. lesh, doom and PL all feel very strong atm

as if those hero aren't available for secret to pick

the real question is why did secret allow them to have 2 of their signature hero. doom and PL.
-Terran-
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-12 06:36:53
May 12 2018 06:36 GMT
#24
wow keeen lesssssssssggooooooooooooooooooooo
they could win this tourney
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 06:37 GMT
#25
On May 12 2018 15:27 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 15:16 Sloke wrote:
keen trying to abuse the strong meta heroes. lesh, doom and PL all feel very strong atm

as if those hero aren't available for secret to pick

the real question is why did secret allow them to have 2 of their signature hero. doom and PL.


I really hate when good captains get really stubborn on this type of stuff. You ban the Doom, not the Bane.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 12 2018 06:37 GMT
#26
CHINESE TI YEAR.

Well on serious note, KG players are very talented and can be tier 1 if they fix their mid late game, hopefully through the help of a coach or some divine intervention.

Winning TI is not an impossibility no matter how small the chance is.
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 12 2018 06:40 GMT
#27
On May 12 2018 15:27 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 15:16 Sloke wrote:
keen trying to abuse the strong meta heroes. lesh, doom and PL all feel very strong atm

as if those hero aren't available for secret to pick

the real question is why did secret allow them to have 2 of their signature hero. doom and PL.

true, I guess the puppey stubbornness shows again.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
May 12 2018 06:40 GMT
#28
this is a STOMP
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 06:41 GMT
#29
On May 12 2018 15:37 babysimba wrote:
CHINESE TI YEAR.

Well on serious note, KG players are very talented and can be tier 1 if they fix their mid late game, hopefully through the help of a coach or some divine intervention.

Winning TI is not an impossibility no matter how small the chance is.


I don't think they'll get out of the Chinese qualifiers. I also don't expect Fnatic to be as stubborn about drafting against them.

Oddly enough, Keen is playing in the way the RTZ-based EG figured out how to play with ppd as captain. They have a carry farming while the other 3-4 heroes go and gank. Farming on 3 cores doesn't work against this, which is why Keen died to Doom twice against Secret.

Secret drafted into the one thing Keen does well and they're getting punished for it.
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
May 12 2018 06:42 GMT
#30
On May 12 2018 15:40 Sloke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 15:27 Vertical wrote:
On May 12 2018 15:16 Sloke wrote:
keen trying to abuse the strong meta heroes. lesh, doom and PL all feel very strong atm

as if those hero aren't available for secret to pick

the real question is why did secret allow them to have 2 of their signature hero. doom and PL.

true, I guess the puppey stubbornness shows again.


midone needs to threaten to leave and straight up tell puppey to not be stubborn lol it cost them a lot of games, and i don't think i've ever seen puppey win a game thinking he can beat signature heroes
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
May 12 2018 06:49 GMT
#31
keen likes to throw, dp should have ran wtf
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 06:50 GMT
#32
On May 12 2018 15:42 nVme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 15:40 Sloke wrote:
On May 12 2018 15:27 Vertical wrote:
On May 12 2018 15:16 Sloke wrote:
keen trying to abuse the strong meta heroes. lesh, doom and PL all feel very strong atm

as if those hero aren't available for secret to pick

the real question is why did secret allow them to have 2 of their signature hero. doom and PL.

true, I guess the puppey stubbornness shows again.


midone needs to threaten to leave and straight up tell puppey to not be stubborn lol it cost them a lot of games, and i don't think i've ever seen puppey win a game thinking he can beat signature heroes


Secret won with Doom in 1 game. Lose to Doom + Bane in Game 2. Ban Bane in game 3. Losing Game 3. Apparently the logic of "just ban Doom if you aren't taking it" is too much.

All good captains do this. I think it's a lack of a coach inspecting the previous game while it's happening to figure out why certain things worked.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 07:00 GMT
#33
Keen has won only one game of consequence without the Doom, and that required EG to just play their draft poorly and with "mini-doom" version of WW.

Keen has players with a bright future, but they're doing a T2 Special tournament.
Day_Walker
Profile Joined December 2013
104 Posts
May 12 2018 07:00 GMT
#34
What a fun series to watch.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 12 2018 07:02 GMT
#35
Puppy is ready to smash someone's head
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
May 12 2018 07:04 GMT
#36
On May 12 2018 16:02 babysimba wrote:
Puppy is ready to smash someone's head

Maybe he should smash his own head. I mean first ban INVOKER instead the DOOM who just destroyed you? Be serious...
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2018 07:05 GMT
#37
On May 12 2018 16:02 babysimba wrote:
Puppy is ready to smash someone's head


It's his own fault. Bans are always on the drafter, and their strategy was farming until mid-game against a team that spends from min 7 to min 25 trying to gank the entire time with deep wards.

Whoever they face in the finals is going to ban Doom or take it themselves, then Keen is going to be back to their T2 state.
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
May 12 2018 07:10 GMT
#38
On May 12 2018 16:05 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 16:02 babysimba wrote:
Puppy is ready to smash someone's head


It's his own fault. Bans are always on the drafter, and their strategy was farming until mid-game against a team that spends from min 7 to min 25 trying to gank the entire time with deep wards.

Whoever they face in the finals is going to ban Doom or take it themselves, then Keen is going to be back to their T2 state.

Plus he did really poorly with warding. Keen were running around and they have not a single ward on the map to see their rotations, movements, runes or ANYTHING at all. While Keen was blocking camps, getting vision on stacks and information about Alch all the time.
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
550
Profile Joined April 2018
418 Posts
May 12 2018 07:18 GMT
#39
i got a feeling DOOM is the hidden bogey for both tournaments

of course not gonna discredit KG / LGD / FTM, but maybe its slightly because of DOOM?

very sad that Secret lost, really wanted them on grand finalsg
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44127 Posts
May 12 2018 07:18 GMT
#40
Keen beat secret ? Lmao CN qualifiers is gonna be so fun

Its gonna be fnatic vs keen ? Assuming if it goes as expected
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